How Long Does The Dollar Have?

Plastics, uranium, iron ore, copper etc

If the states has the industries to support themselves I would be shocked.

And if taking by force? I highly doubt they have the manpower and public opinion to maintain several wars of agression.

About the food, you may want to look into Spains exports there mate, they provide the lions share of fruit and veg to the Euro zone.

We have more plastic than we know what to do with as it is...

We don't use uranium for anything productive, at least not in the numbers to where we couldn't keep going for awhile.

how are the last two related to anything to last a few months/years?

Like I said, we feed most of the world, without us sending food they'd starve.

We could starve the world to death and then we wouldn't need to have "several wars of aggression" there would be nobody left to oppose us.

However as this is a purely hypothetical scenario, and the only nations that would be left are ones that don't trade with us to start with, out of those we could easily crush them.

Europe is the exception, and to be frank, they'd probably help us do it.

Legalize marijuana. Problem solved.

Lol really? Germany and France (the true EU power atm) would not help the US do any such thing, whilst even combined those two couldnt invade they sure as hell could stop the US from invading. And throw in US agression and Russia and China would jump on board with them so fast your head would spin.

America does not feed most of the world. It really doesnt.

/cough

How on Earth America could starve the world to death is beyond me? Please provide any links showing the world depends on US food exports...

Again, you may wish to look at Spains exports mate.

I had always suspected you were a full of ***troll but now I know you are.

China, Russia, France, Germany and the UK. They are the only countries with the potential manpower and military that could stand up and fight the US solo (all of which are out gunned) but they all trade do trade, rather highly, with the states. Incase your not too good with maps, all bar Russia and China are "in" Europe and none of them DEPEND on US food imports

Please tell me which countries dont trade with the states? Would love to hear them.

China would be dead without our food supply...

and those other three nations couldn't touch our military...

as for them not helping, they probably would if the alternative were to fight us.

As for your numbers, it's top exports by numerical value, food is pretty cheap, (insert logical conclusion here).

I don't troll, and your lack of reading comprehension is astounding...

legalize and tax the *** out of in state run stores.

Also tax the wealthy more... (for starters get rid of the tax cuts).

Righto mate, still waiting on your links showing US food exports to any of the other world powers?

Unless you have anything other than "Hurr durr merica could beat anyone" I think this conversation is finished? Did you wish to supply any data relating to your claims of the US starving the world? Or are you just gonna continue to rely on conjecture?

I don't feel a need to respond as you won't be able to read it anyway as you didn't even read my last several posts properly, retorted with insults and posted figures that really have no bearing on the situation at all.

As for the figures: I did a quick google search but only thing I found on the first go was companies who did exports, and I really don't feel like continuing when you probably will misinterpret the data anyway.

(if you're wondering where your reading comprehension fails I was saying the UK is excluded from that statement, so everything in your retort was baseless.)

Also of the countries I was saying that don't trade, I was referring to countries like North Korea.

Haha! Love it! Pass the buck and bring my intelligence into the fray! Very clever, must work wonders for winning against people at university? I did the looking for you by the way,

Americas top food export, corn and the stats below.

Dont see France, Germany, China, Russia or the UK on the list mate. Maybe you wanna take another pissweak swipe at my literacy?

Top 20 Countries for US Corn Exports
The following countries accounted for 84% of the US$11.2 billion in American corn exports last year.

1.Japan … US$2.6 billion (23.6% of total US corn exports)
2.Mexico … $2.1 billion (18.7%)
3.South Korea … $830 million (7.4%)
4.Taiwan … $793.1 million (7.1%)
5.Egypt … $662.8 million (5.9%)
6.Colombia … $557.7 million ( 5%)
7.Canada … $494.8 million (4.4%)
8.Israel … $169 million (1.5%)
9.Morocco … $156.2 million (1.4%)
10.Turkey … $154.8 million (1.4%)
11.Saudi Arabia … $147.9 million (1.3%)
12.Chile … $94.9 million (0.8%)
13.Venezuela … $91.3 million (0.8%)
14.Ecuador … $91 million (0.8%)
15.Indonesia … $88.8 million (0.8%)
16.Peru … $70.9 million (0.6%)
17.Panama … $62.2 million (0.6%)
18.Malaysia … $59.9 million (0.5%)
19.Spain … $54.3 million (0.5%)
20.Ireland … $51.2 million (0.5%).

Well, this discussion has certainly piqued my interest now.

/sigh

US Census: Top Trading Partners - Total Trade, Exports, Imports

US Census: Top Trading Partners (Most recent listing, March 2012)

US Census: ATP

(Still looking for agricultural output specifically. Give me a few.)

just corn?

and I never insulted your intellect, just your reading comprehension level, which you yourself proved is lacking, I just pointed it out.

We have a winner! See Jet, this is what I was talking about. If you take the time to look through these links, not only will you see heavy exports from the US but also imports.

America can not go it alone nor could it force other countries to toe their line if they refused to pay up whats owed and go military to get what they need to produce.

and none of those say really much of anything about food...


edit: I was never disputing that the world traded heavily, that's a duh.

and yeah they could easily survive short term and take what they want from the survivors if need be, if it came to that.

if anything they'd just be pirates with their superior navy and steal the goods.

Most of what's owed anyway is to itself and the rest is China, and they need US as much if not more than we need them.

Unless I'm missing something, all that says is how much we're giving out and taking in.

It says nothing of how much they're receiving from us, relative to other trading they're doing.

Yes I failed to mention the tax implications of legalizing marijuana. But it would help greatly, along with the fact that we are one of the few if not the only country in the world that does not produce our own hemp products. Paper/clothing etc. Tons of money to be made, BILLIONS up BILLIONS multiplied by BILLIONS and add more BILLIONS on top of that. The war on drugs is a waste of money. It's not stopping anything. The marijuana will always be there. In every city, every town, EVERYWHERE. It really could save the USA if people weren't so blind. As for taxing the wealthy more... idk bout all that. Why should those people be penalized for taking the initiative, coming up with successful products, working hard etc. Just a thought...

Edit: /stoner Its for my glaucoma I swear!

Mate, you sure do talk out of your arse alot.

Are you now trying to downplay your repeated statments of the world depending on US food exports? Could you please, pretty please show ANY form of source for these claims or are you just making them up?

Still browsing.

trick is there's multiple parties who want it to remain illegal, from the christian zealots to the people who are profiting from it being the way it is, to cops themselves as they like to keep the funding/their jobs.

IIRC wasn't the FBI sett up to enforce prohibition? (Zah?)

As for the hemp products, a major reason it was made illegal in the first place, trees that take decades or plants that take seasons? (granted the plants it takes more of, but you get the idea).

We only owe China a trillion dollars... The majority of U.S. Debt is held by the federal reserve and that number is at about 6.5 trillion.

On another note, I hope China gets fed up with the what, 1.2 trillion dollars we owe them? Would make life on this Earth pretty interesting if they pulled the pimp scenario "WHERE'S MY MONEY ***" on the USA.

A and lot are two words, not one.

I never downplayed the world dependance of FOOD exports, just exports, again reading comprehension, why do you lack it?

I already told you, I searched, and I couldn't find anything in a quickie.

I've known about it for some time, it was a few articles or something I read awhile back, I forget where.

That was mostly in response to Moonwalkerv (seemingly) declaring himself the winner of the argument.

Voila!

US Census: Agricultural Exports and Imports

USDA: Agricultural Trade of the United States

Cough

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Germany


Agriculture is extremely productive, and Germany is able to cover 90% of its nutritional needs with domestic production.

Cough

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_France#Agriculture

France is the world's second largest agricultural exporter, world's sixth-largest agricultural producer and European Union's leading agricultural power, accounting for about one-third of all agricultural land within the EU.


Cough

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Britain#Agriculture.2C_hunting.2C_forestry.2C_and_fishing

Agriculture is intensive, highly mechanised, and efficient by European standards, producing about 60% of food needs

going to just put this here.

probably because by that point, dollar was the "world currency" in the western world (remember that was the peak of cold war). So pretty much the other coiuntries had to "believe" that dollar was worth vs "being worthless paper.

i might be wrong tho.

wiki knows all.