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Another videogame law,seriously?
Rhaokin said: » My opinion is that this may be somewhat viable. It says violent videogames lead to "aggressive behavior" not necessarily violent behavior. Look at people who play Call of Duty for example, and tell me how many people who play and AREN'T aggressive.
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Competition brings out the vitriol in people. It's there to begin with, no doubt, competition just brings it to the surface. ***-talkers are everywhere, and they're not even the bottom-of-the-barrel.
Rhaokin said: » My opinion is that this may be somewhat viable. It says violent videogames lead to "aggressive behavior" not necessarily violent behavior. Look at people who play Call of Duty for example, and tell me how many people who play (not casual players though) and AREN'T aggressive. I play alot of violent video games. And I promise you that I am one of the most laid back people you will ever meet. Aggression not a word I like to say without discomfort. Hell, that matter, everyone I know who plays video games (violent or not) is the same way. If this is the case, then why hasnt the movie/tv industry been under alot more scrutiny? Which shapes our society just as much as video games, if not more. Phoenix.Lillicarnage said: » There was one study once where they had some people who weren't gamers play God of War II. They had a group just play and go to work, and another group play, go to work, and think about the game while working (things like new combos, boss fight tactics etc). The group who thought about the video games all day were found to be more aggressive and had increased sciencey stuff in their blood that is related to aggression. I don't really trust many studies like that myself though, as it seems that no matter what they always find what they intended to find one way or another. Blood testosterone levels I assume? Did the survey investigate how that increased 'aggressiveness' was dispersed? Increased motivation to work and achieve targets? Increased levels of performance through daily tasks? I assume that these test subjects did not start fighting with each other, so what exactly is such a test meant to prove? Increased blood testosterone levels will increase aggression, that's a primal reaction in men. Being able to make judgements and knowing the difference between right and wrong prevents aggression getting out of hand. It is known as the ego part of the psyche (see Sigmund Freud's ego).
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Cerberus.Tikal said: » Competition brings out the vitriol in people. It's there to begin with, no doubt, competition just brings it to the surface. ***-talkers are everywhere, and they're not even the bottom-of-the-barrel. Adrenaline impedes the ability to make logical decisions and judgements. It overloads the nervous system so to speak. Odin.Eikechi said: » Asura.Ina said: » The best part is that you can walk into a book store and find books, like books to read for fun not for information, that are 10x as violent as most video games... for real, the Fantasy genre is worse then anything I've seen in games and I know there is worse out there then what I've read XD Yet do people make a big deal of that? No, there just books right? The Hunger Games series, is now a movie series, that is being released soon. The first movie is due out in about 6 days or so. It's a story in which 12-18 yr olds fight to the death... In very vicious fashion from what I understand. Yeah.. and little children read these kinds of books too. Yet books aren't to blame. Nope. Not one iota...
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Leave it to politicians to create sweeping absolutions over things that cannot be proven thanks to the countless variables never taken into account.
Why oh why, must morals hold power over science when it comes to legislation that affects the general population? Just another thing out of the millions that make me quote Dr. Farnsworth. idontwanttoliveonthisplanetanymore.png Asura.Ina said: » The best part is that you can walk into a book store and find books, like books to read for fun not for information, that are 10x as violent as most video games... for real, the Fantasy genre is worse then anything I've seen in games and I know there is worse out there then what I've read XD Yet do people make a big deal of that? No, there just books right? Haha that ice hockey brawl is quality.
I don't see how this is wrong/bad really. (I think the opinion may vary on age obviously.) I'm 27yo and I do remember in middle/high school some dumb kids pretending to be Kano from Mortal Kombat and hurting other kids.
I think this is simply informing the consumer/parent, which allows them to make a more educated choice in their purchase. Which imo isnt bad. Just like nutritional facts inform the consumer. I do think, however, if your going to start labeling video games extensively, we might as well take it to the degree of Nutritional Facts. (E.g. include the benefits some video games have on analytical skills) I do also think their needs to be some impartial opinion on this, specifically the APA. If the APA supports this then yes. I'm 100% for it. Caitsith.Shiroi said: » Rhaokin said: » My opinion is that this may be somewhat viable. It says violent videogames lead to "aggressive behavior" not necessarily violent behavior. Look at people who play Call of Duty for example, and tell me how many people who play (not casual players though) and AREN'T aggressive. But it doesn't mean they'll be aggressive outside of the game. Anyways, on the PS3 there isn't many aggressive players on CoD. Play a few games of League of Legends if you want to see aggressive behaviors =P Also to add on sports, This only makes me think of that joke on 1000 Ways to Die. "I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out." Bahamut.Baconwrap said: » I don't see how this is wrong/bad really. (I think the opinion may vary on age obviously.) I'm 27yo and I do remember in middle/high school some dumb kids pretending to be Kano from Mortal Kombat and hurting other kids. I think this is simply informing the consumer/parent, which allows them to make a more educated choice in their purchase. Which imo isnt bad. Just like nutritional facts inform the consumer. I do think, however, if your going to start labeling video games extensively, we might as well take it to the degree of Nutritional Facts. (E.g. include the benefits some video games have on analytical skills) I do also think their needs to be some impartial opinion on this, specifically the APA. If the APA supports this then yes. I'm 100% for it. (assuming you are.. I've seen you post in the LGBT thread. D:)
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Bismarck.Elderberry said: » You're gay right? So say, lets block all gay media, erase gay characters from games and make the ones who continue to keep them have a high rating. We both know that playing a gay character doesn't make you gay but isn't it the same? (assuming you are.. I've seen you post in the LGBT thread. D:) OH WOW! Just wow! So because i have gay friends and support LGBT equality I'm gay? Thats the most homophobic crap and idiocy I've heard of, in a while at least. I have gay friends and support LGBT because I'm human and dont discriminate the people I associate with and believe everyone deserves equal rights. And what does me posting in the LGBT thread have to do with this topic?! Last time I checked no study ever showed homosexual character promote violence, drug usage, or illegal behaviour in school...
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That might be an accurate parallel, only because idiots try and justify things like that.
Cerberus.Tikal said: » That might be an accurate parallel, only because idiots try and justify things like that. I only justified it to the degree of Nutritional facts. and IF the APA supporting it, which it currently wouldnt based on their 2010/2011 report they made on violent video games. Bahamut.Baconwrap said: » I don't see how this is wrong/bad really. (I think the opinion may vary on age obviously.) I'm 27yo and I do remember in middle/high school some dumb kids pretending to be Kano from Mortal Kombat and hurting other kids. I think this is simply informing the consumer/parent, which allows them to make a more educated choice in their purchase. Which imo isnt bad. Just like nutritional facts inform the consumer. I do think, however, if your going to start labeling video games extensively, we might as well take it to the degree of Nutritional Facts. (E.g. include the benefits some video games have on analytical skills) I do also think their needs to be some impartial opinion on this, specifically the APA. If the APA supports this then yes. I'm 100% for it. Basing your case on some misbehaving school children is not enough I'm afraid. School kids misbehave and hurt each other all the time and usually the source of this kind of behaviour is attention seeking or a different psychological issue. If the kids acting this way had seen fighting moves from a movie they would imitate them instead, or seen fighting moves from a sporting event they would imitate them, it just so happens the video game was the most recent and most fresh in their mind. It's not the source. That is the most bigoted statement I have seen in quite sometime. YOU WIN THE INTERNET AHOLE
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Someone's a bit violent.. Take my post how you like, it wasn't supposed to provoke you or start an argument. *shrug*
I wasn't speaking against your argument, it was more of a "you post here, so you must be gay" statement.
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Bismarck.Elderberry said: » Someone's a bit violent.. Take my post how you like, it wasn't supposed to provoke you or start an argument. *shrug* Violent LoL, get with the times- 2012. EDIT: What u said is completely ugh... <rolls my eyes> Bahamut.Baconwrap said: » Bismarck.Elderberry said: » You're gay right? So say, lets block all gay media, erase gay characters from games and make the ones who continue to keep them have a high rating. We both know that playing a gay character doesn't make you gay but isn't it the same? (assuming you are.. I've seen you post in the LGBT thread. D:) OH WOW! Just wow! So because i have gay friends and support LGBT equality I'm gay? Thats the most homophobic crap and idiocy I've heard of, in a while at least. I have gay friends and support LGBT because I'm human and dont discriminate the people I associate with and believe everyone deserves equal rights. And what does me posting in the LGBT thread have to do with this topic?! Last time I checked no study ever showed homosexual character promote violence, drug usage, or illegal behaviour in school... There is nothing homophoebic about what he said... so he wrongly assumed you were gay which I agree was a silly thing to assume... but he didn't say anything derogatory. Stop getting in such a state over nothing. Reading his posts its obvious he IS gay though.. is it wrong to mention that? o.O;
I'd appreciate it if you cut the passive aggressive *** EB.
Also I'd appreciate to keep your ego in check with your overly defensive and misplaced rebuttals. Can we get back on topic please? Perhaps I should explain something and maybe itll put it into context. I dont know how many of you know any people who are in AA, but you dont go around telling people they are in a 12 step program because it breaks their anonymity. Its kind of the same thing with gays and being in the closet. He should be the one stating such, not it being blabbed by a third party.
I do apologize if I did overreact because I do see that could have been misconstrued, but me being gay myself, I try to protect as many gays from being forced "out" as much as I can.
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Uhm okay.. lol not even my intention.. but people are reading it wrong so I'm done.
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Bahamut.Baconwrap said: » Cerberus.Tikal said: » That might be an accurate parallel, only because idiots try and justify things like that. I only justified it to the degree of Nutritional facts. and IF the APA supporting it, which it currently wouldnt based on their 2010/2011 report they made on violent video games. Cerberus.Tikal said: » Bahamut.Baconwrap said: » Cerberus.Tikal said: » That might be an accurate parallel, only because idiots try and justify things like that. I only justified it to the degree of Nutritional facts. and IF the APA supporting it, which it currently wouldnt based on their 2010/2011 report they made on violent video games. Oh yah i agree with u on that. I think the APA needs to comment on this for that reason. I dont agree with your gay comment, the APA stated its genetic/biological u cant influence genetic traits. Correction, pparently last time they made an official statement on video games was 2003- Lolz Violent Video Games -American Psych Association Bismarck.Elderberry said: » Bahamut.Baconwrap said: » I don't see how this is wrong/bad really. (I think the opinion may vary on age obviously.) I'm 27yo and I do remember in middle/high school some dumb kids pretending to be Kano from Mortal Kombat and hurting other kids. I think this is simply informing the consumer/parent, which allows them to make a more educated choice in their purchase. Which imo isnt bad. Just like nutritional facts inform the consumer. I do think, however, if your going to start labeling video games extensively, we might as well take it to the degree of Nutritional Facts. (E.g. include the benefits some video games have on analytical skills) I do also think their needs to be some impartial opinion on this, specifically the APA. If the APA supports this then yes. I'm 100% for it. There, fixed. (I hope.) Edit: I mean, I don't think the point was to offend people, and I hope that this minor change to the example will take the focus off of the remarks that caused such a reaction and put it back on the point that was trying to be made. I only saw someone trying to make a situation personal for another poster to help them relate to it in a different way.
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