"Are Women People?"

And I stress "misguided" because you have no idea what you are talking about. Who is trying to "remove options for birth control altogether"?
Don't bother - I know your answer, because I know how duped most of you are. All this talk of the GOP removing birth control is - wait for it - A LIE. It is the story the Democrats created just because they knew useful idiots like yourself would believe it and propagate it. You are wrong, there is no more succinct way to say it.

Yes, but she is trying to be the poster child, the innocent helpless face of the "emotional and financial burdens" of not being able to afford her luxuries AND birth control. And PP SHOULD be gotten rid of and replaced with a less politically motivated women's health system. They get public funding to perform abortions, even though roughly half of the country abhors abortion. And don't quote their accounting statistics, because they are false.I don't want to pay for someone else's irresponsibility or extracurricular activities. Is that so wrong?

Sad day for those of us who enjoy the company of men, romantically and/or platonically.

Oh my god HAVE YOU EVEN LISTENED TO ANY GOP CANDIDATES?!

And fwiw , XY fertilization occur at a rate of 110% that of XX, and successful gestation is at a rate of 101%, so it is not true that more female babies are born. The Y sperm is slightly lighter due to the lower mass of the Y-chromosome, which is why it fertilizes more often than an X sperm.

Some species adapted to produce asexually. Some species did not. It does not mean that the asexual ones are superior.

Genetic diversity, anyone?

Again, Rick Santorum speaks for the whole GOP? Did he say he wanted to take it away? Don't you realize that he is a devout Catholic and he is speaking as a devout Catholic, not as a conservative? Conservatives don't try to take away birth control. You have been duped. If you want to say a candidate speaks for the whole party, you are opening a can of worms you certainly don't want to open with the things Barry et al have said.

EDIT: And fwiw, Catholics vote Democrat in huge numbers, so you'll find potentially more anti-BC constituents in the Democrat party than in the GOP. Like I said, the "Great Uniter" is just stirring up an invented controversy to divide us.

I'm going to go get the popcorn, I have a very strong feeling this is about to get real interesting real quick.

Yeah, it's wrong. Birth control is about being responsible. I'd rather eat a pill or have partner wear condoms (pill is remarkably safer) than not. :/ It's not about being a ***, it's about to freedom to have sex and give in to biological urges with the person I love without risking getting pregnant and bringing a child into the world no one is ready for.

Sure abortion is there but I'd rather take the medicine over a costly to tax payer and potentially dangerous procedure. -_-

In Tenshi's world, anyone who has sex for pleasures is a *** and they should feel bad.

Again, why does that mean I have to pay for your choices? Responsibility involves being able to take care of your financial obligations, not just slipping on a rubber. And some girls are ***, which is irresponsible, and people who act irresponsibly make up the bulk of abortions. If you were TRULY responsible you wouldn't be sleeping around if you're not ready to take care of a kid, but I know, it feels good, so other people owe you money for your BC. I thought women were supposed to be strong and independent? Instead we are told they are weak and needy. You can't have it both ways.

I guess you're against public school, too, Tenshi. And public hospitals.

And public soup kitchens.

And public police forces, public firefighters, public anything, right?

lol

so what about married people who just aren't financially able to care for a child? are they *** for doing the responsible thing and not bringing a child into this *** up world?

Strawman strawman strawman. You fail fail fail.

aw how cute, repetitiveness...my 7 year old does that

Keep saying it 'till you're blue in the face.

Are you against any of that? Because compared to birth control, the amount of your money that goes to any of those is a treasury.

I don't want to pay for someone's birth control no more than I want to pay for the military or police, but I know that some people can't afford it and that it's more ethically responsible as a society to look at any of those issues and say "*** it, we're gonna do it together."

It's also about controlling the population. Some people don't WANT children, do they have to abstain from having sex ever? It's just stupid to not pay for it, because then you have to pay for peoples abortions, which cost more, and can put the person doing the procedure at risk. Condoms are not a 100% guarentee. To deny people birth control is just flat out stupid. They're going to have sex, it's in our genetics. They want to be responsible, and not burned taxpayers with children they have to put up for adoption, or hell, go on government assistance to get money per kid they have. I'm sure you love paying for that.

I doubt it's your real train of thought, but it honestly does come across that you don't want people to have sex unless they're pro-creating.

Cry me a river. A married couple who can't get a box of Durex? Maybe one of them needs to get a job. The whole "bringing a child into this *** up world" is such an emo cliche. It's pro-abortionists' weak counter to talk of adoption.

Not to mention it's just cheaper in the long run to pay for their birth control instead of formula and food and healthcare and everything else that raising a baby requires.

Son of a ***, I accidentally f5'd and lost another huge post.

We all benefit from police and military. Also the US gov is MANDATED to provide for the national defense. It is not authorized to pay for everything that anyone thinks is a good idea.

Condoms don't have the same success rate birth control does. They do have holes and pop sometimes.

Not sure where your getting this information. The mass of the gamete has absolutely nothing to do with sex ratio in a population. Sex ratio is something that's determined by population genetics. Its usually 1:1. Evolution will adjust the ratio as needed. Fischer's Principle. EDIT: ugh if genetic drift is taking place then 3 other mathematical models come into consideration.


Actually it does. Superiority in species is determined by gestation period, rate or reproduction, ability/likelihood to successfully pass on genetic material to the filial(x) generation.

genetic diversity via sexual reproduction, never has and never will factor into superiority. reason being we learned two key principles in genetics. Genetic drift and genetic hitchhiking. Mother nature can handle genetic diversity by herself she doesnt need a male and female to do it.

SO... if u want to talk in terms of superiority.

Viruses > Archaebacteria > Eubacteria ... the rest is open to debate

1)Humans have a huge gestation(9 months) period compared to the rest of the kingdom.
2)human offspring are very much defensless and require protection for the first few years
3)require homeostatisis to survive(when humans can survive like Sulfolobus solfataricus then we're talking)

Well you benefit from birth control too, like I said above, the cost of birth control doesn't even begin to come close to what it 'costs you' to pay for them to raise a kid.. Just the formula and delivery alone probably ends up 'costing you' more than the birth control would for the person's entire life.

yea because condoms are totally 100% effective. and its not about being "emo"...and i don't give a *** one way or the other if some woman wants to have an abortion. my only concern is for women who should be able to take a *** pill each day, to keep from having a baby they're not ready for, emotionally or financially. look at all the other drugs that get covered out there. why should this be a major *** deal? does it directly affect you if i take a birth control pill? NO.

and i have a job, for your information. don't make enough to even afford my jobs insurance.

I agree that it is to a financial advantage to supply BC, but it is NOT something that the person has the right to demand. Why should others be forced to pay for someone's BC when they can control it? And seriously, what kind of girl sleeps with a guy who is so broke he can't afford $2 for a condom? IT IS ALL A SMOKESCREEN and you guys bought into it with a rabid voracity. And I'm not against sex, but I know I could take care of a kid if something happened. Get it? I am R-E-S-P-O-N-S-I-B-L-E.

And the whole community benefits when people have an easier time regulating the amount of children they have and women are empowered to limit the amount.

Check and mate, bud. Check and *** mate. :)

Wow, thanks for taking the time to write that all out. It's definitely something I've got to think about. I was also told that sexual reproduction would ultimately lead to a stabler species because of a much higher genetic diversity and that human beings got past things like homeostasis and gestation period because of technology and language.