The Rich Get Slightly Not So Rich

But how does that make the "hard working individuals who went through alot of hard work and sacrifice to get to where they are" the bad guys?

The reason I'm disgusted by the majority of the rich is how they basically buy out politicians. I am talking about the global elite though. Some people have done wonderful things such as donating to charity and even helping with furthering cancer research. But what really disgusts me is big pharma. I don't think pharma has earned the money they have gotten in recent years. But our healthcare is another debate over all.

But@ The OP. God forbid the kids go to a public school. Part of the reason private schools exist is to regulate and segregate ethnic minorities through finances. Though it is not always the case. At least in the south this was part of the reason for some private schools being funded. In recent years though the ACLU broke down some of that segregation.

As an example I'm looking at my High School. Argo in Summit IL [Public]
American Indian/Alaska Native: 16
Asian/Pacific Islander: 20
Hispanic: 617
Black, non-Hispanic: 264
White, non-Hispanic: 825

Mt Carmel, Carmel Highschool [Private]
Carmel High School Students by Ethnicity:
American Indian - 1 (0%)
Asian - 326 (8%)
Black - 76 (2%)
Hispanic - 74 (2%)
White - 3439 (88%)


The whole "Private School is a better education" doesn't seem right to me. Even 'tolerant' people seem to be discriminatory in nature when it comes to a child's education.

My stupid uncle went into major debt while he was unemployed for several years to send his kids to private school, because he didn't want them to go to school with Black people.

I have aunts and uncles just like that. Going to a public school wasn't bad. Yes there was a share of people who made said race look bad. But I've met people who are genuinely awesome. For every hoodrat/gangster wannabe there are 10 people out there who are intelligent and trust worthy. Maybe a bad example, I'm speaking in terms of the school population. It all matters how ones parents raise their kids though.

So because more white people in can afford to send their kids to private school they're discriminating? Huh?

Sort of the same concept as poll taxes.

well i felt bad for them till i read your quote lol. how sad . . . .



both private and public schools have the highest % in white kids how does this validate your point at all? lol I might agree with you if they were the lowest in public schools too.

Of course there are exceptions, that's why I said majority and not everyone. Just like a few of the rich people in this world are born into riches and a family business for instance.

If you have the strongest determination and still fail miserably as you say, then that's very likely the result of bad decision making. It's extremely hard to tell without the benefit of hindsight whether you make a bad decision or not especially if it seems like a smart thing to do at the time.

Secondly, if you have the most awesome idea in the world, you would have to be an idiot to expose it enough that it was stolen from you.

Hate to break it to you, but rich isn't just a disease of the white race.

It's not the white people I am looking at. Look at the count of other races..

Also I'm not sure how school districts are made. Can a school set it's own in district areas if it is private? For Indistrict/out of district tuition costs.

If so I think that could be abused based on census records, average ethnicity, and average house hold income for said areas to keep people out, through high out of district costs.

The majority of people dont hate the successful. The hate is reserved for the super elite who are using their vast wealth to manipulate their countries and the world as a whole to their liking in an attempt to keep all power in the hands of a select few.

How big was your class?

My senior class was 1200, and the school as a whole was ~5800 students. Teachers / Counselors could have given a rats *** if you wanted private teaching time.

Ever heard of a patent? Oh but wait, apparently I'm the one who's clueless.

Except there are plenty of amazing ideas that are currently being cockblocked by large multi-national dinosaurs that refuse to get with the times. Determination can only take you so far and without money/connections you're only going so far and when the opposition can spend you into obscurity, your chances of making headwind are miniscule but not entirely impossible. Naturally it depends on what you're trying to get into.

Even if the number of 'bad' wealthy individuals is low, the amount of power these 'bad' people wield through government and connections is enough to keep most people out of challenging their authority.

We live in a country where one man can fund an entire election campaign by throwing unlimited dollars into play, a country where large banks can orchestrate the second biggest financial crisis in our nations history and walk into the sunset without reforms, a country where we want to gut community programs to give tax breaks to companies already making a mint. Is this a nation for the people? or for a small handful of fabulously wealthy corporations?

Only a fool would equate wealth with morality but it is silly to ignore that our leadership is being bought out and we're being sold out.

a million times this. If you do not like where you are in life, get off your *** & do something about it. "The man" isn't holding anyone back, you are holding yourself back, if anything.

It's silly how well folks are able to convince themselves that hard work and determination suddenly equate to wealth.

Engineers build bridges and contribute to society and work their *** off making sure the damn thing doesn't collapse after 8 years.
Bankers sell broken dreams under the guise of subprime loans and make millions at the expense of others. Would you really believe that the rich elite up on top have a great deal of determination and intelligence other than having initial funds, leverage, connections and predatory instincts towards their lesser man?

To be honest, I wouldn't. Not shitting you either. Even if I made $500k for one year only that's still, a nice $250k-$300k home, maybe a $20k-$50k car, I currently have about $10k in debt for school loans, which I'd spend another $50k-$100k to get a Master's degree. So at max that's $450k, low of $330k, which would leave ample amounts leftover for the yearly expenses such a utilities, food, insurance, and a few indulgences like several new games or consoles. Then if my pay got cut down to $350k, well everything is paid off so no big deal and my yearly expenses should still be well covered and the rest can be stored for savings. People who overindulge in nonsense like $16 muffins and the government that spends hundreds of dollars on a single hammer or toilet seat is a bit ridiculous which is what in turn ticks a lot of people off.

On the topic, I would also like to say that not everyone who's rich busted their arse with hard work to get the things they have. Some people got handed it through their family, which isn't bad. But there are others who monopolize businesses of sorts and do shady activities buy tossing money around to make sure they keep their money and get more too. It's kind of annoying to see politicians or big business owners all pull the same thing out of their hats that, "I worked at my dad's hardware store when I was young, so I know what hard work is," or some non-sense like that. A lot of these rich people -can- step down a few levels in lifestyles, while some others next step down is living in the street or a shelter. That doesn't exclude the poorer folk from blame either with spending on things with borrowed money or money they don't have to where it eventually piles up and train wrecks. But again, not everyone is like that because circumstance can be an issue with the difficulty in getting jobs depending on where you live, how things happen in your life and your families' life, and how well they are prepared for loss of money.

Err... what? What does a lawyer have to do with patent protection?

You do know what a patent is right...?

Long story short: a significant margin of rich folks need a lesson in humility.

Yeh, it's never black and white but unfortunately the wealthy are given a bad name on the whole because of those exceptionally rich individuals that appear in the media doing shady business with politicians, tax evasion and the like. But most people who are well off work hard in school and work their way up into a well paid job. Then there are those who *** about in school harassing those who want to do well, drop out asap with no qualifications and are left with no option but to take a poorly paid job, then cry about how they have to work so hard in a factory and deserve to be paid the same as the people they bullied who are sitting in their leather chairs sipping coffee.

Overgeneralize a bit? There are hard workers who succeed, hardon workers who fail, jackasses who succeed and those who fail.

Hard work might = success, but lots of other things can lead to it as well.

The picture is very fuzzy on this.

Bear in mind I was speaking more specifically to bankers, investors, and loaners up on the very top making millions upon millions from fabricating lies an lobbying congress in their favor relentlessly while gaining more bonuses while the rest of the population has to fend for themselves and face an ever increasing diminish of wages regardless of effort or intelligence.

For those that legitimately took the time and had the patience to dedicate themselves to their field and climb the ladder (however political based that may be), and earn themselves 100k+ then I give a slow golf clap to them. However, the thing worth noting is, that gap we call "middle class" is being strangled by those above, so it's no real surprise that those that were well off but not *** are going to fall off into the state most of us are currently in. ie: Making 26k or less a year and struggling with life's uncertainties within that monetary frame.

Keeping with the original topic... It's all mindset. Some people make it to a level wheree they beelive this is what they need and deserve. Some poeple just fail to plan for set backs. It's probably more common with those that make more money because they probably figure there's no looking back because they're doing so well at the time. Is it an excuse to whine when it does? No. In reality though which one of us doesn't *** and moan when things don't go our way? Just because someone has more money doesn't really expempt them from human nature.

I think the outrage comes from the fact that there are those that when they face setbacks there isn't a cushion or as many options. Those people are usually living on what they need and rarely on what they want as well. It's understandable too. People that make more money should always plan ahead for contingencies especially because they have the ability to do so.

Personally I've seen people abuse the system on both sides.

I don't disagree with this statement at all, but it would be safer to say a lot of people in general, rich, poor, and middle class, need a lesson in humanity. I can count a lot more wrongs done to me by people I have the same social class as myself that I can from rich people.

I went to General Douglas Mac Arthur High in Levittown, NY. Basically as I was getting out there were a few classrooms that were full of computers, as some of the classes required for graduation including "Research Skills", were done solely on computers. After I was done with all my work, I would surf the net and my teacher didn't care honestly. I mostly played games on cartoonnetwork.com back then lol.