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By Asura.Yoyou 2012-01-07 05:02:56
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My thought as always been standing DD>death one, that's just me though.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-01-07 05:18:32
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Ragnarok have always been my fav. relic.
Why did I do Apoc first?
Because I'm pretty sure I'd be rather mad at myself if I did Ragna first, and a situation occurred where the utility of Apoc would be handy.
Basicly, if you think through it enough, you'll understand that Apoc -> Ragna, if you have to choose one.
If you'r doing both, do Apoc first.

Probably been said before, but I really don't see how it can be hard to understand <_>
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By Quetzalcoatl.Generic 2012-01-07 05:54:22
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Asura.Yoyou said: »
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Ok Generic I'll bite, you and I side by side, fighting mobs, NO healer no support. Don't need a parse. See who lasts longer. Bet you ANY gil I will with my Apoc. That right there makes Apoc > Ragnarok. And yes there are plenty of other reasons as well, but that one just jumps out at me.
Unfortunately I have this thing
It's called a mule :/
Cure VI says hi

Unfortunately dying on dyna-san boss with a full pt of lvl 90 while doing Aegis trial says hi "Mega Boss" :/

I wonder how hard your mule works atm!
Unfortunately you can't cure death :/
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By Quetzalcoatl.Generic 2012-01-07 05:57:11
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Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Generic said: »
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Ok Generic I'll bite, you and I side by side, fighting mobs, NO healer no support. Don't need a parse. See who lasts longer. Bet you ANY gil I will with my Apoc. That right there makes Apoc > Ragnarok. And yes there are plenty of other reasons as well, but that one just jumps out at me.
Unfortunately I have this thing
It's called a mule :/
Cure VI says hi

WHM that isn't a mule outside abyssea and anything worth a damn says hi2u
This just confused me :/
My mule works fine outside aby
Tho, I use RDM outside more than WHM
Phalanx II says hi2me
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By Asura.Yoyou 2012-01-07 06:41:18
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Stun it is mad hard
Brb Megabossing
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By Fenrir.Fulgore 2012-01-07 07:11:49
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Ragnarok is superior for damage, Apocalypse is superior for utility. That's the only answer required.

^ thx.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-01-07 08:54:29
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Phoenix.Deboro said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
How about both are situational better? Besides Ukon war > bravura war > Sam > everything else > drk
Ragnarak War > Ukon. True fact.


The only time Rag > Ukon for WAR is when the WARs 2hr is up and even then its too close to matter. (in VW Ukon is winning either way)

Uploaded the full parses on my website

Found a VW parse with Apoc,RagDRK,RagWAR

The 2nd parse is me beating out one of the nicest WARs in this game, it doesn't happen often but you asked for an impressive Apoc parse.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis 2012-01-07 09:12:47
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Quetzalcoatl.Generic said: »
Asura.Yoyou said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Generic said: »
Ragnarok.Unctgtg said: »
Ok Generic I'll bite, you and I side by side, fighting mobs, NO healer no support. Don't need a parse. See who lasts longer. Bet you ANY gil I will with my Apoc. That right there makes Apoc > Ragnarok. And yes there are plenty of other reasons as well, but that one just jumps out at me.
Unfortunately I have this thing
It's called a mule :/
Cure VI says hi

Unfortunately dying on dyna-san boss with a full pt of lvl 90 while doing Aegis trial says hi "Mega Boss" :/

I wonder how hard your mule works atm!
Unfortunately you can't cure death :/
Sure you can, it's called Raise :p
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By Asura.Dtroyy 2012-01-07 09:47:08
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Asura.Yoyou said: »
Stun it is mad hard
Brb Megabossing
Yoyo you seem mad ;)
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By Quetzalcoatl.Generic 2012-01-07 09:50:08
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Asura.Yoyou said: »
Stun it is mad hard
Brb Megabossing
Lol I'll remember to /BLM next time I do something outside^^
Not like I rly need refresh :/
But why are you so far off topic ?
You bring up me not being able to stun death on my mule during my aegis trials . .
Thought you were trying to prove to me why Apoc is better than Rag :/
Come at me bro :3
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis 2012-01-07 09:52:44
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Come at me bro :3
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By Starkzz 2012-01-07 10:31:47
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Good weapon for DRK = Job change to SAM, 5/5 Shoha.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Generic 2012-01-07 10:35:53
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Starkzz said: »
Good weapon for DRK = Job change to SAM, 5/5 Shoha.
Coming from the guy who job changes from SAM to BLM on Elvaan
Next :/
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By Starkzz 2012-01-07 10:38:10
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racism is soooooo 2007
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By Quetzalcoatl.Generic 2012-01-07 10:56:09
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Starkzz said: »
picking the wrong race is soooooo 2011
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By Asura.Dtroyy 2012-01-07 10:58:36
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Starkzz said: »
Good weapon for DRK = Job change to SAM, 5/5 Shoha.

WAR/SAM no?
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By Starkzz 2012-01-07 11:00:27
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ottenere violentata da più dina-sabbioso stronzo capo madre!
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By Asura.Dtroyy 2012-01-07 11:19:13
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Starkzz said: »
ottenere violentata da più dina-sabbioso stronzo capo madre!
Fake Italian
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2012-01-07 11:20:46
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Starkzz said: »
Good weapon for DRK = Job change to SAM, 5/5 Shoha.

Where you been the past 4 years lol.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Generic 2012-01-07 11:53:04
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Cerberus.Detzu said: »
Starkzz said: »
Good weapon for DRK = Job change to SAM, 5/5 Shoha.

Where you been the past 4 years lol.
Where have you been for the past year :/
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By Carbuncle.Crollion 2012-01-07 12:06:08
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In my 6 years of playing dark always wanted a apoc did I understand the use of it back then....nope. I wanted it cause it was the ultimate weapon at the time and pure badass looking. As time went on and I started to look into the weapons and understand ffxi better I so wanted a apoc cause of its use. Doing salvage at 75 with a apoc drk me thf and a rdm and watching that drk survive like it was nothing always amazed me. I'm doing apoc first then will do rag for fun times on war and drk but apoc to me is one of the best weapons se ever made.
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By Asura.Yoyou 2012-01-07 12:26:14
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Quetzalcoatl.Generic said: »
Asura.Yoyou said: »
Stun it is mad hard
Brb Megabossing
Lol I'll remember to /BLM next time I do something outside^^
Not like I rly need refresh :/
But why are you so far off topic ?
You bring up me not being able to stun death on my mule during my aegis trials . .
Thought you were trying to prove to me why Apoc is better than Rag :/
Come at me bro :3

You've been claiming for the past few days that you never die that your Ragna is so awesome so after I watched how you managed to die on your "megaboss" character to such an easy content with a full pt and w/o reraise up makes me laugh abit , you know right?
I said it before in this topic standing dd > death dd.

The point as been made already over and over ragna if you want cool damage apoc for everything else.

(Sorry forgot you never die)

Hi2u.
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2012-01-07 13:01:50
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Asura.Yoyou said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Generic said: »
Asura.Yoyou said: »
Stun it is mad hard
Brb Megabossing
Lol I'll remember to /BLM next time I do something outside^^
Not like I rly need refresh :/
But why are you so far off topic ?
You bring up me not being able to stun death on my mule during my aegis trials . .
Thought you were trying to prove to me why Apoc is better than Rag :/
Come at me bro :3

You've been claiming for the past few days that you never die that your Ragna is so awesome so after I watched how you managed to die on your "megaboss" character to such an easy content with a full pt and w/o reraise up makes me laugh abit , you know right?
I said it before in this topic standing dd > death dd.

The point as been made already over and over ragna if you want cool damage apoc for everything else.

(Sorry forgot you never die)

Hi2u.

Don't bother, ppl just wanna play DRK as they play WAR or SAM. In my opinion, if there's one weapon you must have on DRK above all it's Apocalypse.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Generic 2012-01-07 18:55:56
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Cerberus.Detzu said: »
Asura.Yoyou said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Generic said: »
Asura.Yoyou said: »
Stun it is mad hard
Brb Megabossing
Lol I'll remember to /BLM next time I do something outside^^
Not like I rly need refresh :/
But why are you so far off topic ?
You bring up me not being able to stun death on my mule during my aegis trials . .
Thought you were trying to prove to me why Apoc is better than Rag :/
Come at me bro :3

You've been claiming for the past few days that you never die that your Ragna is so awesome so after I watched how you managed to die on your "megaboss" character to such an easy content with a full pt and w/o reraise up makes me laugh abit , you know right?
I said it before in this topic standing dd > death dd.

The point as been made already over and over ragna if you want cool damage apoc for everything else.

(Sorry forgot you never die)

Hi2u.

Don't bother, ppl just wanna play DRK as they play WAR or SAM. In my opinion, if there's one weapon you must have on DRK above all it's Apocalypse.
well well
I said something I missed
I definitely die that's for sure I don't remember saying I never do :/
I'm sure I woulda lived if pld could use ragnarok with aegis but that would be a bit broken don't you agree^^
You probably also know that everytume I die I sat to myself "if only I made Apoc QQ"
If that were true, guess what, I woulda made an Apoc. But, 90% of what I die to kills me in 1 to 2 hits after my fanatics wears off. I have given Apoc its utility use title but let's not forget that we rag users can also change to war and (idk why) pld which is utility in its own way :)
You ppl who have posted about Apoc all sound like you lowman/solo on drk soooo my advice is to go out there and make some friends! :D
I'm sure sooomeone will toss you a cure
love&peace :3
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-01-07 19:06:05
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Quetzalcoatl.Generic said: »
If that were true, guess what, I woulda made an Apoc. But, 90% of what I die to kills me in 1 to 2 hits after my fanatics wears off. I have given Apoc its utility use title but let's not forget that we rag users can also change to war and (idk why) pld which is utility in its own way

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By Fenrir.Ruebyy 2012-01-08 08:03:34
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Bahamut.Serj said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Generic said: »
If that were true, guess what, I woulda made an Apoc. But, 90% of what I die to kills me in 1 to 2 hits after my fanatics wears off. I have given Apoc its utility use title but let's not forget that we rag users can also change to war and (idk why) pld which is utility in its own way

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By Cerberus.Detzu 2012-01-08 08:13:24
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Quetzalcoatl.Generic said: »
Cerberus.Detzu said: »
Asura.Yoyou said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Generic said: »
Asura.Yoyou said: »
Stun it is mad hard
Brb Megabossing
Lol I'll remember to /BLM next time I do something outside^^
Not like I rly need refresh :/
But why are you so far off topic ?
You bring up me not being able to stun death on my mule during my aegis trials . .
Thought you were trying to prove to me why Apoc is better than Rag :/
Come at me bro :3

You've been claiming for the past few days that you never die that your Ragna is so awesome so after I watched how you managed to die on your "megaboss" character to such an easy content with a full pt and w/o reraise up makes me laugh abit , you know right?
I said it before in this topic standing dd > death dd.

The point as been made already over and over ragna if you want cool damage apoc for everything else.

(Sorry forgot you never die)

Hi2u.

Don't bother, ppl just wanna play DRK as they play WAR or SAM. In my opinion, if there's one weapon you must have on DRK above all it's Apocalypse.
well well
I said something I missed
I definitely die that's for sure I don't remember saying I never do :/
I'm sure I woulda lived if pld could use ragnarok with aegis but that would be a bit broken don't you agree^^
You probably also know that everytume I die I sat to myself "if only I made Apoc QQ"
If that were true, guess what, I woulda made an Apoc. But, 90% of what I die to kills me in 1 to 2 hits after my fanatics wears off. I have given Apoc its utility use title but let's not forget that we rag users can also change to war and (idk why) pld which is utility in its own way :)
You ppl who have posted about Apoc all sound like you lowman/solo on drk soooo my advice is to go out there and make some friends! :D
I'm sure sooomeone will toss you a cure
love&peace :3

No one ever told you Apoc makes you invincible. All we're saying is that it takes you to another level of survivability, making DRK more versatile. No one said DRK can replace PLD as tank or something like that. And tell me, what is the utility of a PLD or a WAR with GS?
Less enmity, less damage?
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By Asura.Arkanethered 2012-01-08 09:44:25
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Cerberus.Detzu said: »
No one said DRK can replace PLD as tank or something like that.

Easily done at 75 and upwards.. actually more efficient in most cases baring special ochain / aegis moments.

There, said it.
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By Hades.Ferusio 2012-01-08 09:49:17
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An apoca Drk is better than a normal pld at tanking
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