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Let's Talk Fishing!
Seraph.Koroma
Serveur: Seraph
Game: FFXI
By Seraph.Koroma 2012-11-18 01:12:20
"it's always darkest before the dawn"
No words ever truer, i was about to give up was even considering selling my lu shangs and just buying gugs but on my LAST gug today it happened.
1/133 liks 1/450 hellfish if i ever see a gug again it'll be too soon. they're way harder to catch then liks all liks fished myself about 70% of the gugs.
I can't imagine how the 1k+ gug ppl stayed with it lol.
(side note: my one regret is i did these yrs of fishing on my old blm mule and not my main char,but im so happy atm)
Sylph.Traxus
Serveur: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 383
By Sylph.Traxus 2012-11-18 23:08:57
Yes. Try Tavnazian Goby to 75.
This is what I've been doing, works well enough with halcyon/minnow.
You can also do kayabaligi in al zahbi to 75, but from my experience the bite rate is much worse due to the amount of items you'll hook there. Not to mention besieged.
Cerberus.Hrasvelg
Serveur: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 33
By Cerberus.Hrasvelg 2012-11-19 21:24:42
Congrats to everyone with these screencaps. It's inspiring.
Still in low twenties on the fishing. Still 200K guild points away from having all KI/items bought from Alchemy guild (so I can join fishing guild). Nearing first 1000 moat carps fished up. You people are awesome!
Lakshmi.Watusa
Serveur: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 702
By Lakshmi.Watusa 2012-11-20 01:54:14
Okay did Haks difficulty get nerfed or something? First time fishing again in 2 months, I must've had about 25 line breaks now and only 10 catches. I have never had luck this bad before, always a 2:1 catch/break ratio.
Leviathan.Hohenheim
Serveur: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3351
By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-11-20 01:55:53
Okay did Haks difficulty get nerfed or something? First time fishing again in 2 months, I must've had about 25 line breaks now and only 10 catches. I have never had luck this bad before, always a 2:1 catch/break ratio.
i still am having a 2:1 ratio.
Lakshmi.Watusa
Serveur: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 702
By Lakshmi.Watusa 2012-11-20 01:59:50
Another 5 breaks since posting that... This has got to be the worst night ever.
Cerberus.Mindi
Serveur: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 602
By Cerberus.Mindi 2012-11-20 02:07:41
What result has fishing skill for higher skill fishes? Does it reduce linesnap?
Leviathan.Hohenheim
Serveur: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3351
By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-11-20 02:08:44
What result has fishing skill for higher skill fishes? Does it reduce linesnap?
supposedly.
it also affects the stamina of fish
Quetzalcoatl.Tanag
Serveur: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 72
By Quetzalcoatl.Tanag 2012-11-20 16:19:48
Man buying Minnows is near impossible. I think it's time to start crafting them.
One question, is the stuffed "big one" worth getting? Seems to be worth it till I get the GP for another item, but I never see people talk about it. Am I right in thinking it doesn't stack once I get the Map or Sign?
edit: Weird, why does the bbcode change The Big One to Stuffed "big One"
Leviathan.Vaudianx
Serveur: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 128
By Leviathan.Vaudianx 2012-11-20 17:31:17
Is it possible to go from Lv. 0-78 without a lu shangs? I know that shall shell/istiridye with halcyon will cap to 53, can I just skip lu shangs altogether and just get ebisu? (asking for a mule as I dont wanna buy lu shangs again)
Buying a Lu for you're mule is great! Every time I buy one and resell after I get Ebisu, it's worth about 500k - 1 mil more
:)
Lakshmi.Watusa
Serveur: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 702
By Lakshmi.Watusa 2012-11-20 19:34:51
Quetzalcoatl.Tanag said: »Man buying Minnows is near impossible. I think it's time to start crafting them.
I gave up hunting for minnows on my server. Ever since the cruor nerf it's gotten even harder to find some.
Serveur: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 82
By Odin.Valdor 2012-11-21 13:06:34
Quetzalcoatl.Tanag said: »Man buying Minnows is near impossible. I think it's time to start crafting them.
One question, is the stuffed "big one" worth getting? Seems to be worth it till I get the GP for another item, but I never see people talk about it. Am I right in thinking it doesn't stack once I get the Map or Sign?
edit: Weird, why does the bbcode change The Big One to Stuffed "big One"
Fishermen's Stall (15K GP points and synergized from Fishermen's Emblem) +
Fisherman's Sign Board, Fishing Hole Map OR The Big One gives Mega Moglification: Fishing. According to Wiki :
This increases your Fishing Skill by 1 plus makes discerning when you have a bite much faster.
Fishing Skill +3, plus lowering stamina, plus discerning fish faster.
Siren.Kenesu
Serveur: Siren
Game: FFXI
Posts: 150
By Siren.Kenesu 2012-11-21 13:43:17
Frog lure only targets Pisces. Good luck.
Cerberus.Mindi
Serveur: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 602
By Cerberus.Mindi 2012-11-21 13:53:45
Quetzalcoatl.Tanag said: »Man buying Minnows is near impossible. I think it's time to start crafting them.
One question, is the stuffed "big one" worth getting? Seems to be worth it till I get the GP for another item, but I never see people talk about it. Am I right in thinking it doesn't stack once I get the Map or Sign?
edit: Weird, why does the bbcode change The Big One to Stuffed "big One"
Fishermen's Stall (15K GP points and synergized from Fishermen's Emblem) +
Fisherman's Sign Board, Fishing Hole Map OR The Big One gives Mega Moglification: Fishing. According to Wiki :
This increases your Fishing Skill by 1 plus makes discerning when you have a bite much faster.
Fishing Skill +3, plus lowering stamina, plus discerning fish faster.
Wiki is outdated, Stall alone gives +5 Skill, any other items (GP and the big one) are rumors over rumors what they add as far as i know
Quetzalcoatl.Tanag
Serveur: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 72
By Quetzalcoatl.Tanag 2012-11-21 14:11:31
Thanks. I already have the stall so I'll just stick with that!
Serveur: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 129
By Odin.Ketsuu 2012-11-23 20:53:56
This may have been answered already, but 95 other pages to check is a lot (*_*). If it has been answered already, I apologize.
Does the Key Item "Mooching" make a big difference in how many Matsya you catch when fishing with Dwarf Pugils? I have some people saying it doesn't make much of a difference, and have other people who are saying its a huge difference. Would appreciate any feedback anyone can offer. ^.^
Serveur: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 389
By Sylph.Maruraba 2012-11-23 21:03:19
The big difference with mooching is that the Matsya stay on the line for a pretty decent amount of time. This way you won't need to use Albatross Ring or something to keep them from getting away. You can use the ideal setup of Puffin and Noddy rings to reel them in.
It won't make them bite more often itself, but Puffin/Noddy will lessen your undesirable hooks. If you don't have those rings, then getting them would be a good idea before worrying about mooching.
Also, no matter how many you catch, it doesn't mean Zaldon will necessarily find a Shawl in there for ya. Trust me...
Serveur: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 129
By Odin.Ketsuu 2012-11-23 21:10:17
Well I'll be building up my GP for it, but what would you suggest to do until then? Albatross ring+Puffin (or Noddy) ring and hope for the best? And I know the feeling, had pretty bad luck on Ebisu items, and so far 0/20 on the cape from Matsya :(
Cerberus.Hrasvelg
Serveur: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 33
By Cerberus.Hrasvelg 2012-11-25 18:01:55
Not sure if this was answered elsewhere or before. The search I made was inconclusive. I'm feeling paranoid about this topic again.
Say I have a craft at 100 and I decide to switch guilds to fishing.
Do I keep my veteran status with the previous craft?
Do I keep my level 100 with the previous craft? I know fishing doesn't follow the 110-70-70-etc rubric.
Do I keep all my Key Items from the previous craft?
Bismarck.Dreadnot
Serveur: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5113
By Bismarck.Dreadnot 2012-11-25 18:31:03
Cerberus.Hrasvelg said: »Not sure if this was answered elsewhere or before. The search I made was inconclusive. I'm feeling paranoid about this topic again.
Say I have a craft at 100 and I decide to switch guilds to fishing.
Do I keep my veteran status with the previous craft?
Do I keep my level 100 with the previous craft? I know fishing doesn't follow the 110-70-70-etc rubric.
Do I keep all my Key Items from the previous craft?
Yes to all.
By Avitori 2012-11-25 18:31:12
^Yes yes and yes. Look at my profile if it makes you feel better... I have 110 fishing 100 cooking and all subs to 70
Serveur: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 12
By Odin.Mindinho 2012-11-27 08:59:00
Well I'll be building up my GP for it, but what would you suggest to do until then? Albatross ring+Puffin (or Noddy) ring and hope for the best? And I know the feeling, had pretty bad luck on Ebisu items, and so far 0/20 on the cape from Matsya :(
Other than what felt like 100 line snaps, i went 1/54...so from those 54 that i caught i only had 1 lost due to not enough time...but i think it was due to lag more so than anything else.
Siren.Mosin
Serveur: Siren
Game: FFXI
By Siren.Mosin 2012-11-29 11:14:44
heyo all! I have read this entire thread over the last 3-4 days, & I would like to say thanks for sharing your stories everyone. I have been extremely bored irl, as per the norm, so I was looking for another lofty, crazy goal. that's when my pea-brain decided it would be a good time to go for lu shang's again. I fooled with it for a while years & years ago, & collected 500 or so carps. after reading this very insightful thread, it seems the general concensus is to just buy LS, but I really want the test of my patience, attention span, ect. so I think I'm going to keep fishing them up per the quest. I play on ps3, so I haven't/won't be botting them, it's all going to be about the goofiness of fishing in a game. please don't take this paragraph as anti-botting, because I couldn't care less what anyone else does. I just don't have anyone irl that didn't laugh at my new fishy undertaking, & I thought maybe I could get some thoughts/encouragement from this thread, as nobody I know thinks LS chasing is a good idea. so, anyhow, thanks for the awesome thread! & I'll let you guys know if I hold on. 910/10,000 lvl 12 fishing
well, I've half-assed continued the fishing.
2,500/10,000 moat carp
lvl 20.2 fishing
so I've been skilling on dark bass, & noticed (after seeing they NPC for crap) they are a guild point fish later on. my question to you pros: should I send them to a mule for GP's later on? or keep npc'ing them for 1200 a stack?
By Avitori 2012-11-29 11:35:30
should I send them to a mule for GP's later on? or keep npc'ing them for 1200 a stack?
Keep like 30 on a mule for if/when they are GP. 1,200 gil isn't much.
Siren.Mosin
Serveur: Siren
Game: FFXI
By Siren.Mosin 2012-11-29 11:36:35
should I send them to a mule for GP's later on? or keep npc'ing them for 1200 a stack? Keep like 30 on a mule for if/when they are GP. 1,200 gil isn't much.
right on, thank you.
Lakshmi.Watusa
Serveur: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 702
By Lakshmi.Watusa 2012-12-02 18:16:58
Is there a specific fatigue linked to Hak fishing? I noticed I don't get many line breaks when I first start fishing in the day, but after a few hours it's like almost every second bite is a break. Just coincidence or did they actually do something to prevent fishing Haks for too long?
I remember for other fish, you'd just get less bites and more junk items after too long in the zone. Getting the same amount of bites on Haks, just so many breaks.
By Mindinho 2012-12-04 08:47:34
Is there a specific fatigue linked to Hak fishing? I noticed I don't get many line breaks when I first start fishing in the day, but after a few hours it's like almost every second bite is a break. Just coincidence or did they actually do something to prevent fishing Haks for too long?
I remember for other fish, you'd just get less bites and more junk items after too long in the zone. Getting the same amount of bites on Haks, just so many breaks.
It's luck of the draw. I've seen 6 line snap in a row at the start and then 10 catches...it's the SE random generator.
By Aeyela 2012-12-04 09:14:32
Is it possible to go from Lv. 0-78 without a lu shangs? I know that shall shell/istiridye with halcyon will cap to 53, can I just skip lu shangs altogether and just get ebisu? (asking for a mule as I dont wanna buy lu shangs again)
I went from 0 - 33 on whatever. I'm unsure what, it'd been a couple of years since I did this. Since returning to the game I have given fishing another go and really got into it.
I did Shall Shells in Bibiki using a Halcyon Rod and Rogue Rig until level 53. The bite rate was excellent and until about level ~45 they're all I fished up, since the other fish were too easy to give 'You're unsure...' messages. From 45+ it might have been better to change camps, but I stuck it out.
Then, on the advice of my mentor Watusa (Mr. Bean guy) I gave Talacca Cove a try. Use a Halcyon Rod and Crayfish Balls to hook up Dil and Mercanbaligi. You will get line breaks fairly often at first but they will decrease the higher you get. Release any !!!s you find because they're Ahtapots and they'll break the Halcyon Rods. The only downside to this spot is the need to synth a load of Crayfish Balls; if you have Cooking 60 or higher it's pretty easy and cheap. Alternatively you can wait for the price at guilds to drop and buy them from there.
The stacks of Fish NPC for 7.4k-8.6k depending on if you sell them to the guild in Whitegate or not. This spot is honestly fantastic; the bite rate is awesome and I'm glad he recommended it. It will take you all the way past 78 (As high as 96 on Dils, 86 on Mercanbaligi) and the level requirement to be able to quest for the Ebisu Rod. Like you, I am reluctant to buy a Lu Shang's.
Hope this helped!
By Aeyela 2012-12-04 09:45:01
I have a question of my own regarding Ebisu. Is it possible to fish up either Lik or Gugrusaurus without a Lu Shangs? I am thinking it's highly unlikely... But I can not find the answer for sure anywhere.
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Cerberus.Anjisnu
Serveur: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2803
By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2012-12-04 09:52:26
I have a question of my own regarding Ebisu. Is it possible to fish up either Lik or Gugrusaurus without a Lu Shangs? I am thinking it's highly unlikely... But I can not find the answer for sure anywhere.
i tried with one of the alchemy rods since i could repair those with 1 light crystal as opposed to 50 but it turned out like 28 broken rods per lik so i leveled ww and camped the torque/gp hands
There are fishing topics that come up now and then but mainly are asking a question for a single answer. I know there are many fishers that visit these forums so this is an attempt to get people involved and have a little fun discussing one and only one thing, fishing!
I know Blue Gartr has a Fishing topic already, but I would like to see this community get involved a little bit and talk, since not everyone visits BG. I would love to have a topic just for fishers including veteran fishers, casual fishers, and even players just starting out and want to ask a few questions without being embarrassed about starting a whole topic for a simple answer they could not find.
I only ask that you keep any bot talk to a minimum, preferably none. [Moderator edit: No bot talk] I want this to be a place where we can discuss anything from GP items of the day to what lure/bait to use or what area is best. A quick mention of how you're doing on the lu shang/ebisu quest, how you're doing getting your fishing items from Grounds of Valor, that item you're saving your GP up for, or how much you wish you could hurt Zaldon for not finding anything in your fish for the 10,000th time. Your lucky moment streaks and the moments when you have nothing come your way and question why you started fishing in the first place. Anything that comes to mind, think of it as the random thoughts thread for fishing.
I will list a few resources that I find to be useful when it comes to fishing: BG Fishing Topic
Great Blue (Amazing Site <3, is out dated since 2008 but an amazing resource regardless)
Final Fishing (Another great resource with one of the most in-depth guides made. Out of date though.)
Fish Size Chart [ GE][ Wikia]
Chenon Diary (The site seems to be down for good though, it was a site made for Fish Ranking)
I shall add more if people provide good resources.
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