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Let's Talk Fishing!
Serveur: Bahamut
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By Bahamut.Colonelace 2011-10-05 22:55:03
as far as gp items i only started gp items at lvl 70 and at the rate i was skilling up i wanted ebisu ki to try for my rod before anything else. my plans are smock>wader>stall>emblem since i have the big one dont need hole map it seems according to wiki mega moghancement fishing skill page....
Edit: checked the page, and didnt know it was cut out lol i always just knew about apron+rings never got to see the snap rate til now... guess 10% hook rate for a lower snap rate is a decent pay off but they might just be the same ill try it next time i go fishing.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-10-05 23:04:23
http://ffxi.gamerescape.com/wiki/Hakuryu
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Hakuryu
I wrote these from scratch and has my own personal averages in the data. It should help you out on the debate between the two lures. Although disregarding my data, you can always find out what is the better lure by comparing what lure catches what:
Although great blue hasn't been updated since 2008 it serves it purpose here:
Minnow: http://www.great-blue.jp/?aid=047&bid=020&lng=en
Cone Calamary + Bluetail + Gigant Squid + Hakuryu
Sinking Minnow: http://www.great-blue.jp/?aid=047&bid=021&lng=en
Black Sole + Hakuryu
As you can see there is a clear advantage simply because of fish targeting. If you use the Noddy Ring and Puffin Ring together you'll have an even greater advantage because your raising the bite rate of large fish (Hakuryu) creating less chances for black sole. If you did that with minnow it would also increase the bite rate of giant squid (which is bad, unless you want to catch them o.o;...)
About GP items I personally did:
Waders > ebisu KI > Apron > Stall
Now I'm getting the 200k gp item, then I'll get the fish net then the map last.
Bah, got stuck at the bottom of the page. Quoting to move it here.
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By Sylph.Deathknight 2011-10-05 23:13:08
I would suggest doing GP in the order of value:
Ebisu KI -> Stall -> can stop unless you're bored -> apron/synergy it -> waders
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By Bismarck.Dreadnot 2011-10-05 23:45:08
There I go misplacing my lures again.. this time my shrimp lure has disappeared.
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By Valefor.Malakir 2011-10-05 23:50:12
Quote: There I go misplacing my lures again.. this time my shrimp lure has disappeared.
glad to know im not the only one with this problem >.> the thing that sucks is as soon as you give up and buy a replacement, you'll locate the missing one
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By Bahamut.Colonelace 2011-10-06 00:55:01
lol i feel ur pain i had to recently cancel one of my mules on my account so i can afford the 2 characters i have with my low income and i had all my lures in it lol some guild items suck to catch without my lures.... also as far as neck piece i dont understand how to farm the neck piece. like do i go and do pages for lvl 95 or can i do lvl 10 pages and it still works the same, that still is a mystery to me its why i havent bothered with them yet
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By Quetzalcoatl.Crystalchan 2011-10-06 01:17:08
Nope no modding here. Oh well. At 11, on the long road to 100 now >.> I would do Nebs, caps at 27 and 25k/stack on my server for some cash :O
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-10-06 01:20:09
Bismarck.Dreadnot said: »There I go misplacing my lures again.. this time my shrimp lure has disappeared.
glad to know im not the only one with this problem >.> the thing that sucks is as soon as you give up and buy a replacement, you'll locate the missing one use the new windower plugin :)
Info Page:
http://forums.windower.net/topic/20125-windower-plugins-find/
Download Page:
http://forums.windower.net/files/download/42-find/
once you put it in your plugins folder, edit your init file to auto load it, it will be ready to find your lost lures on the fly ~/o/
//find Shrimp Lure
//find Lure
It is case sensitive, so that is a small issue with it. Also if you want to type the command in the console instead of the chat log just remove the two // and you'll be fine.
Bahamut.Serj
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-10-06 01:24:06
Bahamut.Colonelace said: »lol i feel ur pain i had to recently cancel one of my mules on my account so i can afford the 2 characters i have with my low income and i had all my lures in it lol some guild items suck to catch without my lures.... also as far as neck piece i dont understand how to farm the neck piece. like do i go and do pages for lvl 95 or can i do lvl 10 pages and it still works the same, that still is a mystery to me its why i havent bothered with them yet
I got ya covered! =P
0/157 on Apple Silk as of now. Buying more tomorrow >_<
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-10-06 01:24:42
haha ;x
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By Bahamut.Colonelace 2011-10-06 01:29:20
serj u have a seller for lik's? also any idea on the whole thing with uhhh GoV how it works i have nin, bst, thf and pld 95 but dont know what i have to do to farm chest best.
By Powerslave 2011-10-06 01:30:02
Holy jeeze that plugin is awesome. Thanks for the link, just made my mog-house Jenga playing life a whole lot easier lol.
Bahamut.Serj
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-10-06 01:32:31
Bahamut.Colonelace said: »serj u have a seller for lik's? also any idea on the whole thing with uhhh GoV how it works i have nin, bst, thf and pld 95 but dont know what i have to do to farm chest best.
Found some guy who's selling me them for 25k ea. Unfortunately my funds are running really low now.
And uhh, I'd just go get an easy page to do and do it on thf and bring theif tools for extra hints on gold chests. Have the page repeat, build up prowess buffs, and just grind for a long time.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-10-06 01:34:14
Holy jeeze that plugin is awesome. Thanks for the link, just made my mog-house Jenga playing life a whole lot easier lol. Yea, it's not perfect but it's a whole lot easier than before.
Before meaning....
Hmmmm where is my fly lure...
Menu > view house > mog safe
scroll down........didn't see it
exit > storage
scroll down........didn't see it
exit > mog locker
scroll down........didn't see it
exit > mog satchel
scroll down........didn't see it
exit > mog sack
scroll down........didn't see it
/rage.... I know I have it!!!
/repeat...twice...
I'll just buy another one dangit :\
Tomorrow you find it in your satchel where you always put your lures...
That could take around 5 min to give up and then another 5 to go get one...
//find Fly Lure
takes 1-2 seconds
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2011-10-06 07:29:53
Fml, fished up 150 gugrus for this dude.
He gets it about 30 and I have no other buyers lined up.
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By Bahamut.Colonelace 2011-10-06 07:51:25
thats not so bad i was just trying to get fisher's torque and after ~5hrs of trying to cap chest... i died, so depressed/pissed
Bismarck.Dreadnot
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By Bismarck.Dreadnot 2011-10-06 08:11:44
Thankyou Kali~ for that plugin link. It's awesome. All my bags are always such a mess and this makes life sooo much easier.
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By Sylph.Deathknight 2011-10-06 09:09:39
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: »Fml, fished up 150 gugrus for this dude.
He gets it about 30 and I have no other buyers lined up.
I would suggest not selling per fish when catching Ebusi fish. Ask for the entire money upfront and trade them all to the person, lest such a situation continues to occur.
Found some guy who's selling me them for 25k ea. Unfortunately my funds are running really low now.
25k for a lik? holy highway robbery. At least some fishers somewhere are making bank lol.
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By Cerberus.Kaht 2011-10-06 09:37:07
11>56 seems awfully... aggressive. I'll give it a shot though.
Do nebimonites instead. They sell for a lot more and will cap you at 27.
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By Sylph.Deathknight 2011-10-06 09:47:14
Bahamut.Colonelace said: »also as far as neck piece i dont understand how to farm the neck piece. like do i go and do pages for lvl 95 or can i do lvl 10 pages and it still works the same, that still is a mystery to me its why i havent bothered with them yet
When you kill monsters in the area, occasionally chests will appear. This does not require doing any GoV pages. However, GoV will offer you some exp while you are killing monsters as well as the opportunity to receive a boost to finding chests after killing monsters. So, you do not need to do pages and can kill low level mobs, while GoV may offer better performance in the long run.
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By Cerberus.Kaht 2011-10-06 10:08:54
Sylph.Deathknight said: »Bahamut.Colonelace said: »also as far as neck piece i dont understand how to farm the neck piece. like do i go and do pages for lvl 95 or can i do lvl 10 pages and it still works the same, that still is a mystery to me its why i havent bothered with them yet
When you kill monsters in the area, occasionally chests will appear. This does not require doing any GoV pages. However, GoV will offer you some exp while you are killing monsters as well as the opportunity to receive a boost to finding chests after killing monsters. So, you do not need to do pages and can kill low level mobs, while GoV may offer better performance in the long run.
I spent about 2 nights, around 2 hours at a time doing GoV. During that time I got my casket discovery prowess up to level 5. After that, I just slaughtered low level mobs to farm caskets. It took me around 3 or 4 nights of around 2 hours at a time before I finally opened a casket with a torque. So probably somewhere around 10-12 hours total.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-10-06 12:41:28
18,520 GP to go~
Do your GP everyone! <3
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By Valefor.Krishpy 2011-10-06 13:27:57
94k guild points and my item today is Lungfish of all things! Lmao....*jumps into a pool of silver sharks*
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By Fenrir.Savoree 2011-10-06 13:34:29
When the Fisher's Torque was 1st released, I spent a full week and a half every evening after work (~7 hours per night) and that entire weekend doing GOV in Outer Horutoto Ruins. I never left the zone to keep my prowress from resetting.
Opened countless brown chests (easily in the hundreds).
Never Saw the Torque. /cry
How have others done trying for the Fisher's Torque?
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-10-06 13:41:03
When the Fisher's Torque was 1st released, I spent a full week and a half every evening after work (~7 hours per night) and that entire weekend doing GOV in Outer Horutoto Ruins. I never left the zone to keep my prowress from resetting.
Opened countless brown chests (easily in the hundreds).
Never Saw the Torque. /cry
How have others done trying for the Fisher's Torque? I'm exactly where you are.
Four times I spent 7 days straight in that zone refusing to leave so I wouldn't loose prowess. I hate chests.
A low drop rate I can deal with. When you finally get it you get it unless someone is dumb and doesn't past whatever else is in the treasure pool and it falls to the floor.
With chests, you might get it. You might get it just once, or 25 times. You don't know what you have and when you fail on a chest you can't help but to think, "I bet that was the torque I just lost...".
I hate them. I'd rather deal with a 0.1% drop rate than deal with caskets. I'm serious, I'll take 0.1% drop rate any day over caskets.
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By Bismarck.Dreadnot 2011-10-06 13:43:36
When the Fisher's Torque was 1st released, I spent a full week and a half every evening after work (~7 hours per night) and that entire weekend doing GOV in Outer Horutoto Ruins. I never left the zone to keep my prowress from resetting.
Opened countless brown chests (easily in the hundreds).
Never Saw the Torque. /cry
How have others done trying for the Fisher's Torque?
I'm about to hit hour 4 of GoV today trying to boost my casket rate.
Seen 7 brown, was able to open 4 of them.
Out of 27 GoV completions today I've gotten 1 casket boost.. this is already wearing me out. Good news is my 2box whm almost has hexastrike.
Bahamut.Serj
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-10-06 13:54:11
Sylph.Deathknight said: »25k for a lik? holy highway robbery. At least some fishers somewhere are making bank lol.
Going price on Bahamut. Tons of buyers as well.
Fenrir.Kelyn
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By Fenrir.Kelyn 2011-10-06 13:54:22
Brown chest: Will usually give a 50% or 33% chance of entering the correct number to open it. However, I have a 95% of entering the wrong one :P.
Does anybody have confirmation the discernment +1 fishing belt drops from brown chests in the Maze of Shakhrami?
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By Siren.Kalilla 2011-10-06 13:58:50
Brown chest: Will usually give a 50% or 33% chance of entering the correct number to open it. However, I have a 95% of entering the wrong one :P.
Does anybody have confirmation the discernment +1 fishing belt drops from brown chests in the Maze of Shakhrami? Of course it does :O
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By Fenrir.Savoree 2011-10-06 14:51:02
when you fail on a chest you can't help but to think, "I bet that was the torque I just lost...". Ugh. So True.
I swore I would never go back.
Its been a few months.
Probably time to go back...
There are fishing topics that come up now and then but mainly are asking a question for a single answer. I know there are many fishers that visit these forums so this is an attempt to get people involved and have a little fun discussing one and only one thing, fishing!
I know Blue Gartr has a Fishing topic already, but I would like to see this community get involved a little bit and talk, since not everyone visits BG. I would love to have a topic just for fishers including veteran fishers, casual fishers, and even players just starting out and want to ask a few questions without being embarrassed about starting a whole topic for a simple answer they could not find.
I only ask that you keep any bot talk to a minimum, preferably none. [Moderator edit: No bot talk] I want this to be a place where we can discuss anything from GP items of the day to what lure/bait to use or what area is best. A quick mention of how you're doing on the lu shang/ebisu quest, how you're doing getting your fishing items from Grounds of Valor, that item you're saving your GP up for, or how much you wish you could hurt Zaldon for not finding anything in your fish for the 10,000th time. Your lucky moment streaks and the moments when you have nothing come your way and question why you started fishing in the first place. Anything that comes to mind, think of it as the random thoughts thread for fishing.
I will list a few resources that I find to be useful when it comes to fishing: BG Fishing Topic
Great Blue (Amazing Site <3, is out dated since 2008 but an amazing resource regardless)
Final Fishing (Another great resource with one of the most in-depth guides made. Out of date though.)
Fish Size Chart [ GE][ Wikia]
Chenon Diary (The site seems to be down for good though, it was a site made for Fish Ranking)
I shall add more if people provide good resources.
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