Let's Talk Fishing!

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Just writing back to verify: Gavial fish CAN be caught at the pond surrounded by fear dearg at maw #06 in abyssea altepa. Like noted above, you have to sneak fish to avoid aggro, and keep an eye out for the cactaur NM.

One other thing of note, the legendary fish sekiryu (sp) is also caught in this pond and will bite on both minnows and frog lures, so you'll have to take care not to lose your bait.

I wish they would make fishing skill mean more, I've felt kind of ripped off ever since I've capped my skill...It's a bit heartbreaking to see a low level fishing bot mosey on up next to me and catch the same stuff I'm targeting.

You wouldn't see a level 1 crafter making stuff that was level 100 cap, in fact your not even allowed to try. So why can a level 1 fisher with a Lu Rod practically catch any fish in the game.

A change that would only allow you to only catch fish that are 20 skill away from you would be great, it would give people who put the time and effort into fishing more opportunity to profit, and also give them a stronger sense of pride in their craft. Not to mention it would hurt all the fish RMT out there for a while.

I know it's always been this way but it's just wrong.

You're implying just because they're botting means they have no fishing skill.

No I get that fish bots have skill, the whole point I was trying to make was that fishing skill should mean something. Wether it's a fish bot or not, level 100 fishing or not, the fact still remains that a level 1 fisher COULD catch level 100 fish.

Are Crocodilos worth the time to fish up for Puffin ring, or just straight up buy the ring?

I never saw any on the AH so I had to fish them up. Went 2/13 on them though. Gave one to my friend.

How about giving one to your favorite mod? =D

Anye is barely on though

Touche.

I really want to agree with you, but it's very hard to support that.

The most obvious reason would be because there is fish beyond level 120.

Another reason is that it being fishing, you have the world to explore and find fish you want to catch. That is why its open to all levels for the most part.

I agree that someone with level 0 fishing shouldn't be with people with level 50 fishing, or someone with level 30 fishing at level 80 fishing spots. It just is hard to prove why they shouldn't be there.

For the most part the majority of fishers NPC fish. It is instant gil, no waiting and nothing sits for days an gets sent back to you. The prices are always stable, not always the best but stable and that is a good thing.

As a fisher who skilled up to 100 on PS2 I also have the same opinion that people should earn their way up to 100, but sadly that also can't be justified anymore because of abyssea and "easy mode" whether you agree with that label or not. People really don't want to spend months leveling fishing the old fashioned way and although I don't agree with how they are doing it, I guess it brings more people fishing which I don't see very much anymore and like to see someone out fishing other than me (gets boring never seeing anyone fishing near you).

Also, one of the rules in this topic is absolutely no bot talk period, and I know you're not generally talking about bots but still. I don't see RMT as much as a problem now, I haven't seen any obvious RMT in over two years now. I'm sure on the most popular servers there might be some I'm just saying that I don't notice it. I also mostly hang out at ebisu spots too though so that would explain why.

Just because others bot, and others use this fact to claim that fishing skill is too easy and shouldn't be an accomplishment (past drama on this site) doesn't make your own personal accomplishment any less valuable. Other peoples actions shouldn't determine the worth of yours, and if you did it on your own the way you should you should feel proud enough for what you've done. It might not be seen as that by the community but who cares, only opinion that should matter is yours.

Fish at or above 120 would hardly be a difficult thing to tweak, what I was suggesting is such a huge overhaul of the current system that I don't see that being an issue after all the adjustments were put in place. And it doesn't have to be a set 20 levels, maybe it opens up more as you level up, at 100 who's to say you can't catch 50 over cap. Like I said before I just don't want a level 1 fisher to be able to catch fish 99 levels above him.

There are plenty of low level fish all over the world, I don't see why this would be a valid reason for not implementing my idea either. You can still see the world just fine as nearly every fishing zone has something for the lower guy. And while I'm on it, you can look at as a motivation to skill up. You don't start out xp in higher zones, yet, eventually you get to see the world...Think of it as something to work for.

I apologize for the rmt comment as I didn't know that was a rule and I'll refrain from bringing it up in the future.

I see enough of the world while doing fishing GP.

Fishing GP sucks :|

i would have to second that statement lol...being a veteran in woodworking, it took me a month to make about 75k guild points to finish off my sign once i found out that it was worth getting. ive been doing fishing gp for almost 2 months now and im just about to hit 75k

*edit*
i just handed in todays guild points item (cobalt jellyfish) and found out I have 74852 guild points, 148 points shy of 75k, after 2 months of guild pointing T,T

Isn't it awesome when the veteran GP is a retardedly low level item worth next to no points? Woo, go jelly fish!

It's still a million times better than cooking GPs!

Soooo true... I finally got my cooking hat & apron, slapped the cooking guild NPC for GP turn in's and switched it over to fishing.

So far turning in fishing GP items are a cake walk compared to cooking GP items. At least with fishing GP items you don't get completely blocked because of 1 mat (of the 7 you f'ing need) is not available because it's a region only NPC vendor and the related area is currently under beastman control.

fishing skill DOES mean something

my friends mule at fishing 40 cannot fish up black ole (or was it bastore bream) even when borrowing my lu-shangs
the line simply snaps

so fishin skill does have an effect about which fishg to get up however the gap is WIDE


the coudl decrease it a bit to make it like 30% of you skill
so at 10 it would only be up to 13
at 100 it would be 130 so there would be no need to adjusting fish
or even make it like 5points +25% or something like that.

annyway i support this decres in gap of what you can fish up

I still need to get my cooking GP stuff... I hate doing GP though...

I hope SE doesn't make fishing skill needed so I can keep looking cool instead of wearing fishing gear.

I refuse to do GP today, I don't even think that jellyfish would push me to 200,000 GP, and even if it did **** them.

I waited this long and never did "Amateur" rank GP, and I wont start now :P

By the way SQUARE ENIX, I find it guildist that you give fishing lower GP than other crafts! I'm going to send a letter to the Mog House Management Union (MHMU) for your intentional acts of guildism against all anglers of vana'diel.

I'll see you in moogle court!

I'm stalking all guild shops and buying out the jellyfish >_> I am going to be so close to serpent rumors this Saturday that I can not miss a single GP day ._.

Yea the only exception I would make would be if it would make a difference if I could get the ebisu KI or not, but only because I would have to wait a week if I didn't get enough.

(I actually did have to wait a whole week, but that's only because I didn't get shoot until 3 hours after JP midnight)

Yeah some of those GP items are worth so little I didn't even bother..

/mspaint skillz

no wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

They aren't even a fish... (fishing messages makes it an item, that makes no sense >.>)

I suggested on the OF that they tweak GP items for veteran crafters so that the lowest the rotation would go would be craftsman. Doesn't seem like much but it would actually increase a veteran's GP by about 50%. Unfortunately my post got swamped fairly quickly by people asking SE to lower the cost of GP rewards AND increase the daily GP item. In other words, give away GP items, more easy mode, etc.

I think GP is a cool idea, just sucks when you're 100 and you spend half your day making/catching level 17 crap for a whopping 1.1k GP. In the case of fishing its especially crappy b/c of that pesky 200 fish/day cap. Not to mention the time it takes to actually catch 30+ of those low level fish.