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 Sylph.Nephriel
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By Sylph.Nephriel 2011-07-11 12:32:30
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The following bonus effects now activate when the corsair ability Phantom Roll produces an XI:

* The recast time for Phantom Roll will reset.
* While under the effect of an XI roll, the recast time for Phantom Roll will now be reduced to thirty seconds.
* While under the effect of an XI roll, busting will not reduce the amount of rolls that rollers can place on themselves.

Discuss.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-07-11 12:33:23
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Meh. That's all? -.-
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By Sylph.Nephriel 2011-07-11 12:34:30
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Yeah apparently. I was kinda underwhelmed.

Considering you will usually lose an XI while keeping 4 rolls up this seems downright bad unless you keep getting them.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-07-11 12:36:10
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By Carbuncle.Flionheart 2011-07-11 12:37:14
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OMG COR IS THE NEXT BANDWAGON JOB NOW
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-07-11 12:38:32
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this new update is all avoid voidwatch :\ only good thing is the /yell command
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By Leviathan.Krush 2011-07-11 12:39:27
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I could probably workout both rolls to 11 at all times if Im reading this right. Not bad in my op.
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By Bismarck.Misao 2011-07-11 12:40:59
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:|


did Cor get their RAcc bonus it got promised a while back?
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By Odin.Valdor 2011-07-11 12:47:11
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Lakshmi.Emanuelle said:
this new update is all avoid voidwatch :\ only good thing is the /yell command

Corsair is one of the best jobs for VW.

It would be nice if rolling a XI allowed a 3rd roll for 30 seconds.
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By Cerberus.Valmur 2011-07-11 12:48:10
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nah you need 10 plds for voidwatch etc
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By Carbuncle.Flionheart 2011-07-11 12:48:47
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They need to make Corsair more of a buffer that's actually on par with BRD buffs.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-07-11 12:49:22
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Odin.Valdor said:
It would be nice if rolling a XI allowed a 3rd roll for 30 seconds.
Yeah, not really.
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By Asura.Kese 2011-07-11 12:53:59
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Cerberus.Valmur said:
nah you need 10 plds for voidwatch etc
huh?
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-07-11 12:58:33
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Carbuncle.Flionheart said:
They need to make Corsair more of a buffer that's actually on par with BRD buffs.

You mean give them haste? Cause thats really the only difference between the 2 - even though COR gets a lot more buffs then bard does.
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By Carbuncle.Flionheart 2011-07-11 13:04:17
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Sylph.Kimble said:
Carbuncle.Flionheart said:
They need to make Corsair more of a buffer that's actually on par with BRD buffs.

You mean give them haste? Cause thats really the only difference between the 2 - even though COR gets a lot more buffs then bard does.

I'm sure they could have a new roll that would be the equivalent of haste. Like a triple attack roll or something.
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By Leviathan.Krush 2011-07-11 13:07:56
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Sylph.Kimble said:
Carbuncle.Flionheart said:
They need to make Corsair more of a buffer that's actually on par with BRD buffs.

You mean give them haste? Cause thats really the only difference between the 2 - even though COR gets a lot more buffs then bard does.

Or if not haste what buff would be valuable enough to include.

As it stands COR is fine as it is.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-07-11 13:09:25
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Well, we have the lower delay roll which is good if you arent in a a party with 2 handers.

Thing is, even with that, it wouldnt lower recast timers for spells so wouldnt be as useful.
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By Fenrir.Mtmoogle 2011-07-11 13:23:36
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I'll take my 11min XI roll back plz
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By Leviathan.Krush 2011-07-11 13:25:18
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Carbuncle.Flionheart said:
Sylph.Kimble said:
Carbuncle.Flionheart said:
They need to make Corsair more of a buffer that's actually on par with BRD buffs.

You mean give them haste? Cause thats really the only difference between the 2 - even though COR gets a lot more buffs then bard does.

I'm sure they could have a new roll that would be the equivalent of haste. Like a triple attack roll or something.

I like the idea of a secondary native job trait associated with the job connected with the Phantom Roll activated. For instance Rogues roll on an 11 could give Triple Attack 5% or Monks roll 11 would give 5% counter and so on.
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By Sylph.Nephriel 2011-07-11 13:27:17
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Leviathan.Krush said:
Carbuncle.Flionheart said:
Sylph.Kimble said:
Carbuncle.Flionheart said:
They need to make Corsair more of a buffer that's actually on par with BRD buffs.

You mean give them haste? Cause thats really the only difference between the 2 - even though COR gets a lot more buffs then bard does.

I'm sure they could have a new roll that would be the equivalent of haste. Like a triple attack roll or something.

I like the idea of a secondary native job trait associated with the job connected with the Phantom Roll activated. For instance Rogues roll on an 11 could give Triple Attack 5% or Monks roll 11 would give 5% counter and so on.

That's the kind of thing I was hoping we would get. That would be a pretty fun bonus to mess around with.
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By Odin.Takahishy 2011-07-11 13:38:10
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We had so many cool ideas and what do we get? ... -.-
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By Fenrir.Vazerus 2011-07-11 13:48:03
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I'm no Corsair, but sorry you guys didn't get anything cool here :(.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-07-11 13:50:23
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While not amazing, its still nice and will have its uses. Since you dont have to worry about busting while you have an XI up and your timer only being 30 seconds, can basically just keep rolling till you get another XI or a lucky number.
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By Fenrir.Mtmoogle 2011-07-11 13:58:13
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Give cor some sort of Pianissimo ffs
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By Siren.Gunshy 2011-07-11 14:02:09
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Awful.. just awful.
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By Artemicion 2011-07-11 14:03:52
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Fenrir.Mtmoogle said:
Give cor some sort of Pianissimo ffs

A million times this.

Also I would prefer increased duration on XI rolls or even a temporary window allowing a 3rd roll rather than a ticking time bomb frenzy to roll everything really quickly to get another XI.
If you fail to get another XI and you had your 4 rolls within close proximity from your last XI, you're kind of screwed in being able to get everyone their buffs back in a timely manner.

Would prefer an actual bonus to 11 rather than getting this feeling:

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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-07-11 14:40:14
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So basically I was able to constantly bust and re-do a caster's roll instantly just spamming it until I got an 11 after I forced an 11 on bolter's roll. In other words: our roll rotations just went to ***lol, by the time you bust from doubling up to try and hit another 11 you're ready to phantom roll again right away
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-07-11 14:42:31
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Im confused why this is bad?
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-07-11 14:43:59
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On cor you need to do cycles in order to not screw up. It seems that this new feature messes up cycles badly.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-07-11 14:44:03
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You'll be under constant pressure to try and hit 11 on everyone's rolls, meaning you'll spend more time rolling, less time doing other cor~esque things, and you spend varying amounts of time trying to get an 11, meaning you have no freaking clue when x-group's x-roll will wear off.
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