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By Ifrit.Daemun 2011-06-27 07:52:48
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This guy uses absolutely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE exaggerations for all of his examples. Of course any respecting Christian would lie to save someone's life. That wouldn't be a sin. Of course people are outraged and appalled at natural disasters taking the lives of hundreds/thousands.

Stopped there. This guy has no concept of true faith, and is pulling his Biblical examples WAY out of context.

In summation, no worthy content.
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Ifrit.Daemun said:
This guy uses absolutely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE exaggerations for all of his examples. Of course any respecting Christian would lie to save someone's life. That wouldn't be a sin. Of course people are outraged and appalled at natural disasters taking the lives of hundreds/thousands.

Stopped there. This guy has no concept of true faith, and is pulling his Biblical examples WAY out of context.

In summation, no worthy content.
Yes.
He is wrong, you are right.
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2011-06-27 07:56:20
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Ifrit.Daemun said:
This guy uses absolutely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE exaggerations for all of his examples. Of course any respecting Christian would lie to save someone's life. That wouldn't be a sin. Of course people are outraged and appalled at natural disasters taking the lives of hundreds/thousands.

Stopped there. This guy has no concept of true faith, and is pulling his Biblical examples WAY out of context.

In summation, no worthy content.
Yes.
He is wrong, you are right.
/pats back
I had a horrible night, and you sir, just made my day. Whether your words were steeped in satire or not.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-06-27 07:57:28
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Ifrit.Daemun said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Ifrit.Daemun said:
This guy uses absolutely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE exaggerations for all of his examples. Of course any respecting Christian would lie to save someone's life. That wouldn't be a sin. Of course people are outraged and appalled at natural disasters taking the lives of hundreds/thousands.

Stopped there. This guy has no concept of true faith, and is pulling his Biblical examples WAY out of context.

In summation, no worthy content.
Yes.
He is wrong, you are right.
/pats back
I had a horrible night, and you sir, just made my day.
I could've been sarcastic. :P
I haven't watched the video myself so I don't have an opinion on it.
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2011-06-27 08:20:32
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Ifrit.Daemun said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Ifrit.Daemun said:
This guy uses absolutely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE exaggerations for all of his examples. Of course any respecting Christian would lie to save someone's life. That wouldn't be a sin. Of course people are outraged and appalled at natural disasters taking the lives of hundreds/thousands.

Stopped there. This guy has no concept of true faith, and is pulling his Biblical examples WAY out of context.

In summation, no worthy content.
Yes.
He is wrong, you are right.
/pats back
I had a horrible night, and you sir, just made my day.
I could've been sarcastic. :P
I haven't watched the video myself so I don't have an opinion on it.
Yeah I edited that in, after realizing you may have been ; )

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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-06-27 08:22:52
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Ifrit.Daemun said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Ifrit.Daemun said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Ifrit.Daemun said:
This guy uses absolutely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE exaggerations for all of his examples. Of course any respecting Christian would lie to save someone's life. That wouldn't be a sin. Of course people are outraged and appalled at natural disasters taking the lives of hundreds/thousands.

Stopped there. This guy has no concept of true faith, and is pulling his Biblical examples WAY out of context.

In summation, no worthy content.
Yes.
He is wrong, you are right.
/pats back
I had a horrible night, and you sir, just made my day.
I could've been sarcastic. :P
I haven't watched the video myself so I don't have an opinion on it.
Yeah I edited that in, after realizing you may have been ; )

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The Escher Eye or the Eye of Death sketched by M.C. Escher.
lol, I have had a print of this on my wall since my early teens lol.
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2011-06-27 08:26:51
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Ifrit.Daemun said:


Like the eyeballavatar
The Escher Eye or the Eye of Death sketched by M.C. Escher.
lol, I have had a print of this on my wall since my early teens lol.
It's pretty cool. Love that it's grayscale
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By Siren.Barber 2011-06-27 09:36:00
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Lakshmi.Jesi said:
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Just to clarify, on the point that biblical text is anti-woman. Jesus, Paul, and the majority of the New Testament are very clear that women are equal to men in every aspect.
You're kidding right? I Corinthians 14 34-35 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. I Colossians 3 18-19 3:18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord. 3:19 Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them. Note the difference between 18 and 19.

You realize, of course, the 'keep silent' mandate was because of the way seating was in places of worship. The women were seated in the balcony section while the men sat on the ground floor level. With no microphones when the speaker would turn his head in one direction half of the balcony section could not hear anything. The ensuing murmuring made it to where even more people could not hear. Thus the direction to ask the people on the ground floor later, the men, what was said.

Also, the full text on submission to husbands relays the husbands mandate to give oh himself to the point of death so that the wife lacks nothing. I would say there is similar amounts of sacrifice there.....if you don't cut the quote short that is.



At any rate, this video just flip flops what religious folks do as the entire video is basically saying "You can't do such and such or experiance such and such if you are a believer". There some really really good arguments against the existance of a deity. This is not one of them. Nearly every one of his assertions could be picked apart 100 times over.

Time to up the ante!

"And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the ***, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." (Leviticus 21:9)

"When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets: then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her." (Deuteronomy 25:11-12)

"Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean." (Leviticus 12:2)

"But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and six days." (Leviticus 12:5)

"But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." (I Corinthians 11:3)

"For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man." (I Corinthians 11:8-9)

"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Whoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death. He that sacrificeth unto any god, save to the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed." (Exodus 22:18-20)

BURN THE WITCHES!

Leviticus 20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death.

No wonder they oppose gay marriage! They don't want to have to murder a bunch of people!

Deuteronomy 22:20-1 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house.

Exodus 35:2

For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death.

Walmart is open 24/7 and is run by Christians. Maybe it's just a test and the next time they work on Sunday poison gas will be released?

Exodus 21:20-21 If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.

Beat your slaves! Just not to death.

1 Peter 2:18 Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.

Leviticus 25:44-45

Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.

The Bible sure loves slaves!



Let's not kid ourselves here. The Bible was written in a time that was not tolerant towards woman, homosexuals, witches (harry potter I'm looking at YOU!) or slaves. The Bible was written by people alive during that time so of course their views will be what they write about.

Man this is a mega long post but you do know that Leviticus was a holiness code written for the priests of that time right? It didn't even apply to the general Hebrew populous. It was a way for them to keep a separate identity from other cultures. So when you read things like "Don't get tattoos" in Leviticus it was because the priests of other religions had them and they didn't want anyone confusing their priests for priests of other religions. However, the general populous was more than free to have tattoos.


It's not my intention to try and defend the way men 2000-4000 years ago treated women (and wrote accordingly), but you are just quoting things haphazardly out of ignorance without understanding the culture to which those words were written for.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-06-27 09:48:55
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not even a cross tattoo on the face????
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-06-27 09:48:56
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Cerberus.Lasareth said:
This guy makes it sounds like atheism and theism are the only options.

Can't tell if this is a troll or not, but I know many practicing theists who have many if not all of the so-called positive traits described in the "atheists can" portion of the video.

And since when are all theists Christians? This guy only seems to be familiar with monotheism. How ignorant. He sounds just as preachy and uninformed as any theist would.

Personally, I know atheism is in vogue but I really don't see the difference between blind faith and blind atheism, or the need for them to be the only two choices. The point of atheism is "think for yourselves," right? Maybe that's what people should start doing instead of falling into either crowd based on popular opinion.

lolwut?


zahrah said:


It's only the atheists that throw this out too. You don't see the theists and the agnostics of this site slapping up their propaganda EVERY SINGLE DAY.

/sigh

EDIT: Although, us agnostics would just have a video of someone shrugging for five minutes, and saying, "What's all the hub-bub about?"

to both of your points too (well the /sigh is ok :D )
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-06-27 09:51:14
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I just lol that Elana isn't an atheist(and that I commented on that) then ZahZah(an interpretation of Zahrah that amuses me) said that atheists are the main source of making religious argument threads.
Once could say Chaosx is the one who does it quite often though :P
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-06-27 09:53:55
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my head hurts even more than when I woke up, Vinvv make my paper's outline for me, I forgot how to do one (stupid composition class). (5 more weeks and I'm free)
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
my head hurts even more than when I woke up, Vinvv make my paper's outline for me, I forgot how to do one (stupid composition class). (5 more weeks and I'm free)
here you go.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2011-06-27 10:11:25
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I avoid threads about religion like the plague cause I know I would just get mad at the idiocy that sometimes comes with them, and cause they're overall pointless since no one will ever change their stance.

Only thing I'd like to point out is that people should stop generalizing, from both sides: "catholics are all like this" "atheists are all like that".
I, for example, am atheist but don't force my ideas down anyone's throat. If you know someone that does that, then it's that person you should complain about, not the whole category. It's a failed syllogism to carve an opinion for a group just out of one person, or few's behaviour.
In the world there are respectful people and disrespectful people. I don't believe in any god but respect those who do, cause I think it's a personal choice and it's not up to debate(as mine isn't). The church institution on the other hand I could talk about bad all day and I have many reasons to do so.

But anyway the point is: a person isn't determined by the group or category they belong to, but only by their own personal behaviour.
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2011-06-27 10:20:12
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If you are non theist, you couldn't enjoy this guys voice:



(A poke at the video, not anyone here)
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-06-27 10:23:30
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I could just not listen to the words?
People do that all the time with music.
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(I don't watch videos at work)
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By Phoenix.Neosutra 2011-06-27 10:24:44
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Ifrit.Daemun said:
This guy uses absolutely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE exaggerations for all of his examples. Of course any respecting Christian would lie to save someone's life. That wouldn't be a sin. Of course people are outraged and appalled at natural disasters taking the lives of hundreds/thousands.

Stopped there. This guy has no concept of true faith, and is pulling his Biblical examples WAY out of context.

In summation, no worthy content.

Not really.

It may be an exaggeration to lump all theists into the ultra-apologetic category where they must follow each tenant of the bible to it's absolute or be a sinner, or where the death of thousands is excusable due to being part of "the plan", but the concept is not an exaggeration.

To be a theist, you accept an order or a creator to the universe, and via that creator, a plan. Unless you subscribe to the watchmaker deist philosophy (which by your posts I can tell you don't), there are things you accept by claiming their is an omnipotent, omniscient god:

1. That god is responsible for everything in the universe and there is no where that god is not present.

2. Everything happens for a reason, as part of that god's plan.

3. Even the smallest sin is a sin and unworthy of god's presence.

With those basic tenants, you've basically agreed to everything the OP's video stated:

1. You may find sadness in the death of hundreds of thousands, but that pain is weakened (cheapened) by your belief that it's all part of a plan, and not just some horrible accident.

2. There is no moral relativism, as since there is a perfect god out there, only perfection may be in it's presence (remember the cop out "god didn't create evil, man did, and it's man's fault we go to hell, because god can't be near us now", well it goes both ways now and bites you in the ***).

You may not like being generalized, but that's what you get when you accept magic beings as fact, it comes with a hefty price.
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Phoenix.Neosutra said:
Interpretation of the Bible at its most elementary state.
You may not like being generalized, but that's what you get when you accept magic beings as fact, it comes with a hefty price.
1. You obviously missed out on some of the discussions I was in long ago. (Lots of people already in this thread, I would assume remember my stance and my belief.)

2. I often call out members of my own 'belief' on here. I do not like being generalized, because the general populous of (here's the key word in 90% of my posts) professed Christians, still have the faith all wrong.

3. To look at the Bible, in the manner most of these professed people, as well as most non theistic people do, would bring you to some of the points you just posted. The problem with this is, the second half of the Bible states that because of our complete and utter failure, God made all previous contracts null and void and put us on a grace system. Now the only purpose and the only thing meaningful in life, is to show others love. Unconditional, selfless love. The same kind of love you have for yourself. Everything else that happens is a side effect of said love (or lack thereof).

4. What you claim to be 'fact' is a relative term here. 'Magic' happens every day, that is a fact... This entire existence is quite magical, if you take into account all of the things necessary for it to continue to exist and not spin into chaos. (no I'm not someone who thinks we are 1% away from the earth losing its orbit) I mean life itself is a miracle. I chose to believe that because of all of these factors (the vastness of the universe, creation I see every day, principles of science that while we know of them, we know why they occur), there is a God that watches over us and loves us all.

5. I won't go into the whole 'part of a plan' argument. That would utterly derail this...and I don't have time at work anyways. If you wish to discuss, or want to hear my thoughts on that, I will be more than happy to this evening.

EDIT: 6. Yes, even the smallest sin is sin and unworthy. It is not, however, judged by your actions, but rather your motivations. A lie with intentions of saving harm from someone would in most cases not be a sin. Its about your heart, not following the 10 commandments
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2011-06-27 11:10:58
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
I could just not listen to the words?
People do that all the time with music.
:P
(I don't watch videos at work)
watch it at home...you may/may not like
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Just because you don't like to be generalized, doesn't mean you don't fall into the generalizations.

I don't like being generalized as being bad at basketball just for being white.

I am however bad at basketball..

Deamun said:
Magic happens every day

It sure doesn't.

Definition of a Miracle:
: an extremely outstanding and rare event, thing, or accomplishment

By definition, "miracles" can't happen every day, else they wouldn't be miracles.

Let me rephrase it to point out how silly your statement was:

"Extremely rare things are very common". See how dumb that sounds?

There is not one documented, peer reviewed, evidence based miracle or act of god -anywhere-.
Life is not a miracle. All of science and history is evidence against that statement.

Magic is not real. Harry potter is not real.

You're as general as they come for a theist, you're nothing special.
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2011-06-27 11:23:01
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Phoenix.Neosutra said:
Just because you don't like to be generalized, doesn't mean you don't fall into the generalizations.

I don't like being generalized as being bad at basketball just for being white.

I am however bad at basketball..

Deamun said:
Magic happens every day

It sure doesn't.

Definition of a Miracle:
: an extremely outstanding and rare event, thing, or accomplishment

By definition, "miracles" can't happen every day, else they wouldn't be miracles.

Let me rephrase it to point out how silly your statement was:

"Extremely rare things are very common". See how dumb that sounds?

There is not one documented, peer reviewed, evidence based miracle or act of god -anywhere-. Life is not a miracle. All of science and history is evidence against that statement.

Magic is not real. Harry potter is not real.

You're as general as they come for a theist, you're nothing special.
Bolded 1: Yes they are, and are actually becoming more and more common. Watch the news or read articles once in a while. Every day it's "we've never seen this before", or "this is a 1:10,000,000 chance". Agree to disagree. You have a glass half empty outlook, I have a glass half full. We will never get anywhere on this subject.

Bolded 2: Then give me the absolute origin of life. Not theoretical, not plausible. If science has proven life isn't a miracle, I want evidence. Last I checked, all viable theories for the creation point are all quite miraculous...Big bang is a miraculous event. Inflation is a miraculous event. If that is responsible for all life, then all life is miraculous. (I sense Vinvv interjecting with a logical fallacy here. Bring it on bubba. ; ) )

Bolded 3: You must think you're cool. I'm extraordinary in every aspect of my life. For not knowing me, the last half of that sentence couldn't have been a more inaccurate statement. Sarcastic Edit: You quickly resort to name calling. You're such the typical atheist
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By Phoenix.Neosutra 2011-06-27 11:27:38
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Nope. Magic still doesn't exist. Turn in your wands you bought on ebay and put away your cape. Ruby slippers won't teleport you home. Carpets won't fly you to Inda. And god won't make your immortal if you telepathically tell him you love him.

The origin of biological life is pretty well known. Or are you asking for the origin of the universe?

If you don't want theoretical hypotheses based on models and observable evidence, then I'll just have to give you the "I don't know". Placing magic there is irresponsible.

Harry Potter didn't make the universe.
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By Phoenix.Neosutra 2011-06-27 11:28:36
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Magic, by definition, is fictional.

How old are you, seriously?
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2011-06-27 11:32:34
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Phoenix.Neosutra said:
Nope. Magic still doesn't exist. Turn in your wands you bought on ebay and put away your cape. Ruby slippers won't teleport you home. Carpets won't fly you to Inda. And god won't make your immortal if you telepathically tell him you love him.

The origin of biological life is pretty well known. Or are you asking for the origin of the universe?

If you don't want theoretical hypotheses based on models and observable evidence, then I'll just have to give you the "I don't know". Placing magic there is irresponsible.

Harry Potter didn't make the universe.
You must secretly want in HPs pants...cause you bring him up arbitrarily quite a bit.

Not the kind of magic I was speaking of. More or less just supernatural events happening without logical cause.

Oh the 'pretty well known' origin of biological life. You mean single celled org. that evolved into complex organisms such as humans over millions of years? Since the process of evolution is adaptation to make survival easier...a single cell ever becoming multi-cellular is opposite of (here's this word again) logical scientific process. Essentially, magic (in my sense, not ..and the Deathly Hallows.. I don't argue that science isn't viable. I do argue what to conclude when science doesn't have a (again?) logical answer.
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2011-06-27 11:33:56
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Phoenix.Neosutra said:
Magic, by definition, is fictional.

How old are you, seriously?
Old enough that I'm not being pathetic. I thought we were having a discussion, not asking rhetorical questions to try to 'invalidate' one another.

I'm amazed that we have essentially had what 15 threads about religion in the last 2 months and until you've chimed in (now that we banned all the trolls), everything was quite constructive. Thank you for reminding us how bad this place used to be.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-06-27 11:38:25
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Ifrit.Daemun said:
Bolded 1: Yes they are, and are actually becoming more and more common. Watch the news or read articles once in a while. Every day it's "we've never seen this before", or "this is a 1:10,000,000 chance". Agree to disagree. You have a glass half empty outlook, I have a glass half full. We will never get anywhere on this subject.

Bolded 2: Then give me the absolute origin of life. Not theoretical, not plausible. If science has proven life isn't a miracle, I want evidence. Last I checked, all viable theories for the creation point are all quite miraculous...Big bang is a miraculous event. Inflation is a miraculous event. If that is responsible for all life, then all life is miraculous. (I sense Vinvv interjecting with a logical fallacy here. Bring it on bubba. ; ) )

Bolded 3: You must think you're cool. I'm extraordinary in every aspect of my life. For not knowing me, the last half of that sentence couldn't have been a more inaccurate statement. Sarcastic Edit: You quickly resort to name calling. You're such the typical atheist
I think you are using the word miraculous too much without much meaning behind it.
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2011-06-27 11:39:21
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Ifrit.Daemun said:
Phoenix.Neosutra said:
Just because you don't like to be generalized, doesn't mean you don't fall into the generalizations.

I don't like being generalized as being bad at basketball just for being white.

I am however bad at basketball..

Deamun said:
Magic happens every day

It sure doesn't.

Definition of a Miracle:
: an extremely outstanding and rare event, thing, or accomplishment

By definition, "miracles" can't happen every day, else they wouldn't be miracles.

Let me rephrase it to point out how silly your statement was:

"Extremely rare things are very common". See how dumb that sounds?

There is not one documented, peer reviewed, evidence based miracle or act of god -anywhere-. Life is not a miracle. All of science and history is evidence against that statement.

Magic is not real. Harry potter is not real.

You're as general as they come for a theist, you're nothing special.
Bolded 1: Yes they are, and are actually becoming more and more common. Watch the news or read articles once in a while. Every day it's "we've never seen this before", or "this is a 1:10,000,000 chance". Agree to disagree. You have a glass half empty outlook, I have a glass half full. We will never get anywhere on this subject.

Bolded 2: Then give me the absolute origin of life. Not theoretical, not plausible. If science has proven life isn't a miracle, I want evidence. Last I checked, all viable theories for the creation point are all quite miraculous...Big bang is a miraculous event. Inflation is a miraculous event. If that is responsible for all life, then all life is miraculous. (I sense Vinvv interjecting with a logical fallacy here. Bring it on bubba. ; ) )

Bolded 3: You must think you're cool. I'm extraordinary in every aspect of my life. For not knowing me, the last half of that sentence couldn't have been a more inaccurate statement. Sarcastic Edit: You quickly resort to name calling. You're such the typical atheist
I think you are using the word miraculous too much without much meaning behind it.
:P
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Pizza is miraculous, flight is miraculous, the letter i is miraculous.
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By Ifrit.Daemun 2011-06-27 11:44:47
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Pizza is miraculous, flight is miraculous, the letter i is in miraculous.
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Phoenix.Neosutra said:
Just because you don't like to be generalized, doesn't mean you don't fall into the generalizations.

I don't like being generalized as being bad at basketball just for being white.

I am however bad at basketball..

Deamun said:
Magic happens every day

It sure doesn't.

Definition of a Miracle:
: an extremely outstanding and rare event, thing, or accomplishment

By definition, "miracles" can't happen every day, else they wouldn't be miracles.

Let me rephrase it to point out how silly your statement was:

"Extremely rare things are very common". See how dumb that sounds?

There is not one documented, peer reviewed, evidence based miracle or act of god -anywhere-. Life is not a miracle. All of science and history is evidence against that statement.

Magic is not real. Harry potter is not real.

You're as general as they come for a theist, you're nothing special.

Let's say a miracle is a rare event in the sense that it's "once in a lifetime event". So, a person living 70 years, will have a miracle happen at least once.

70 years of life x 365 days in a year = 25,550 days of life.

1 day out of 25,550 days a miracle occurs.

Now, let's relate that to the worlds' population, which is ~7,000,000,000.

7000000000 times 1/25550 = ~274

This means that approximately 274 miracles occur daily.
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