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 Bahamut.Krizz
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2011-12-02 07:18:58
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I had my merc sword in my bazaar for 600k from before I quit. The day I reactivated my account, I didn't think to check. Someone bought it, and I couldn't convince them to let me buy it back from them for any price. Almost made me /ragequit and not resume playing.
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By Carbuncle.Lynxblade 2011-12-02 07:22:10
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sucks bro, but on the bright sight, gil isnt that hard to come by anymore anyways lol,

getting that 3mil exp for your ws's is gona get lots of cruor >_<
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2011-12-02 07:32:26
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Well we've got 15m+ in currency right now for my Aegis so if we really needed gil (we've got 5-6m between us right now) we could sell some of it. Would rather not do that though. There's really not much to spend it on anyway (I say this, but I have 13m worth of gear on my PLD to get list, lol).

Cruor is being stashed to brew the ***out of things =D That Almace and Ocain won't finish themselves.
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By Carbuncle.Lynxblade 2011-12-02 07:34:44
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I haven't seen much testing on the new ws's, but from what ive seen gsword is def gona be 1 choice for me,

i wana pick a ws for my pld though, and im waiting to see results from club or sword ws >_<.
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2011-12-02 07:36:33
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I have WHM so I'll most likely be doing sword, club, and possibly staff. It'll depend on how things end up on the live server.
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2011-12-02 07:36:50
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When I recapped all my combat skills awhile back, I went out the the fear dearg on PLD/MNK, with a WHM, and used counter stance. Had a few 1 DMG weapons to make my mobs last longer and capped like 4 weapons in one pull. Used counter+ and regen atmas. And one of those skill up foods.

Fastest skillups ever.
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By Phoenix.Neosutra 2011-12-02 20:24:49
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I didn't think you could skill up on counters, but maybe it's changed.

I do know it works on Retaliation. Capping all war combat skills fast as hell in Abyssea with about 20 mobs on you and Retaliation active.
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2011-12-02 21:23:28
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You can definitely skill up on counters, and counterstancing 20 mnk mobs makes for amazing skill ups. Assuming you can survive. XD
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By Odin.Brocovich 2011-12-05 03:00:16
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I can confirm the counterstance-skillup-method works very well, but even with only 6 EM mandys I had problems to survive. with phalanx/counterstance they hit me for ~30, with phalanx only for 0. I macroed Ochain for cures and switched back to staff/GS after cure but think without Ochain you cant tank more than 2-3 without healer.
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By Fenrir.Crystenne 2011-12-05 03:48:58
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Phoenix.Neosutra said: »
Basically:

Almace shined in pure DD/enmity generation in it's ~20% higher WS value over Vorpal and the ODD (about 30% at 100 tp).

The new WS appears to outdo CDC by a good margin, and can be used with any weapon (higher base damage weapons since it's rare you're going to take Almace above 90).

In this regard, how feasible would an OA2-4 sword be compared to an Almace? Seeing as how potent a Joytoy setup was with Atonement at 75 I would imagine that'd be a reasonable alternative.
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By Carbuncle.Blazer 2011-12-05 09:31:08
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Sorry if this is in some other thread, I have yet to uncover this, but can someone link the stats to 99 ochain/aegis? Kinda curious.
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By Phoenix.Neosutra 2011-12-05 09:46:14
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Ochain DEF:40 VIT+25 Converts 35% of damage taken to MP upon successful block after circle Lv.99

PLD Aegis DEF:40 Augements "Shield Bash" VI -50% Magic damage taken after circle Lv.99 PLD

No info yet on what after circle does.

And it is assumed the MDT cap remains at 87.5%, meaning you'll only need 37.5% MDT to cap out.

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Odin.Brocovich said: »
I can confirm the counterstance-skillup-method works very well, but even with only 6 EM mandys I had problems to survive. with phalanx/counterstance they hit me for ~30, with phalanx only for 0. I macroed Ochain for cures and switched back to staff/GS after cure but think without Ochain you cant tank more than 2-3 without healer.

The new WS would suffer from the lower based damage of the OAT sword. In VW it wouldn't be worth the loss of damage for the increased TP rate since you get fresh TP wings quit often. Wouldn't "suck" outside abyssea, but I'd still use other options.

I'd say: Burtgang > Excal > Almace > WoE+2 ~= DA+ Sword > standard Magian sword for Enmity generating DPS when factoring in the new WS. Excal may win for total DPS depending on situation/buffs.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-12-05 10:01:22
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Wasn't the aftercircle on aegis and ochain found to be a typo on the JP client? If not, awesome but I thought I recalled seeing something like that.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-05 10:21:04
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They changed it to "afterglow" in the second patch.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-12-05 10:27:00
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I wonder what it will do then, and how will it activate and will it stack with the weapon effects? They could potentially make it badass or they could screw it all up.
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By Phoenix.Neosutra 2011-12-05 10:53:50
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Or the ***could just glow.
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2011-12-05 14:04:53
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The thing I don't get is, what would activate afterglow for a shield? For weapons, aftermath has always been post WS activation. But that doesn't make much sense for a shield.
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By Ifrit.Showmo 2011-12-05 14:08:30
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In the final limit break quest, Atori-Tutori ???'s hand-to-hand weapons glow when he engages, and the glow disappears when disengaged. I'm guessing that's likely what After Glow will be. [Video]
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By Phoenix.Neosutra 2011-12-05 19:47:05
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Yep that's what I'm thinking. Just a special "I got a relic/mythic/empy" bonus glow. People looking for Aura effects from Aegis/Ochain will most likely be greatly let down.
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2011-12-05 19:54:29
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I just don't see why the weapon glowing would be in the item description. Sagasinger, or any other glowing weapon, doesn't say anything about it.

If that's all it is, why change the item description? And why replace the usual aftermath text with it? If this is just to indicate that it'll glow when aftermath is up, then same deal as above.

I'm not trying to claim that the shields will gain aoe effects. Just that changing the items Stats(description) over a purely graphical adjustment seems really weird.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-12-05 20:30:43
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Clearly SE is going to add a shield ws so you can activate it!
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By Carbuncle.Grandthief 2011-12-05 20:58:49
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Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
Clearly SE is going to add a shield ws so you can activate it!
Like Shield Bash? =P
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2011-12-05 21:04:38
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Ark angel EV's Shield Strike, please. Cone AoE stun? Yes, please. XD
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-12-05 21:47:20
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Carbuncle.Grandthief said: »
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
Clearly SE is going to add a shield ws so you can activate it!
Like Shield Bash? =P
I was thinking like one that took TP but be very powerful and have some kind of very cool effect and yeah, shield strike or Sir Ragelise's version would be worth it.
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2011-12-05 21:47:58
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Ragnarok.Martel said: »
Ark angel EV's Shield Strike, please. Cone AoE stun? Yes, please. XD
Don't get my hopes up :(
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By Fenrir.Crystenne 2011-12-06 02:42:34
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While it'd be a gimmick to have it glow on the Aftermath, I will say it'd be pretty friggin' cool, lol.
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2011-12-06 17:10:03
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PLD just keeps getting better and better =D

Enlight and Sanguine Blade are both fun.
 
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By Quetzalcoatl.Maldini 2011-12-10 19:08:05
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@Neosutra : can you post a link to the list of new armor found on test server, I can't for the life of me find it anywhere.

thank you.
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By Phoenix.Neosutra 2011-12-11 19:52:47
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http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/106679-Test-Server-Findings?p=4917442&viewfull=1#post4917442

Bottom of the page.

That doesn't include the armor that was in the recent patch (nyzle+5 gear, etc). Just stuff that may/should be in the 99 update.

Nothing really jumped out at me as "amazing" on that list. Few damage down pieces and situational replacements. Couple side grade WS pieces..
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