Rudra's Storm With DNC

Highest base dmg and nice delay, even if you dont plan to spam Rudra, it's the best dot dagger you can get.
If you'r serious about DNC, go for it.

weapon skill aside, it is the best possible DPS dagger dnc can get, and it has 15 dex to boot. on another note, having the af3+2 body allows you to be able to allow your weapon skills to crit when you use striking flourish. granted you can only do it once every 2 minutes, it still produces very nice numbers. with just my Daka (currently waiting my turn on twashtar) i can pull upwards of 7k dmg with just rudra on your standard TP mobs in heroes zones. if you are pretty decent with macros you can do evisceration -> reverse flourish -> no foot rise -> striking flourish -> rudra's storm -> to get a darkness that is roughly 20% stronger than what your rudra's dmg did. outside abyssea it's really is a very competitive weapon skill.

people have their own opinions on the matter, where some people believe it's better on thf, i believe it's better on dnc, with the high rate of attack speed dnc possesses having twashtar's aftermath and af3+2's set effect you can do quite alot of dmg in a very short time.

Yeah, what Yuna said (though I haven't seen any 7k spikes on monsters that aren't piercing weak). The least obvious benefit of Twashtar outside Abyssea will be the 15 DEX for dDEX (for crit rate). We have Haidates on our weapon, basically, and it's only likely to get higher.

Rudra's in Abyssea is only good if you can force a crit. Dancer can force a crit (and a DA that can crit) using Striking Flourish every 2 minutes with AF3+1 (idk)/2 (~60% of the time) body. It's not as good a bonus as just pure Sneak Attack (100% crit on first hit, added DEX as damage) though the maximum damage from it may be higher.

Outside Abyssea and without Striking Flourish, Rudra's is a weaker weaponskill. You can expect Dancing Edge to do about 20% more damage than it. That extra 20% damage is quite possibly recouped through the 30% ODD rate of the dagger though. If you already have the Aftermath up though, Dancing Edge is probably the way to go. So you need to be able to use DE, Evisc, and Rudra's outside Abyssea and Rudra's / Evisc (and Aeolian Edge) inside.

You can probably retire PK. It's marginally more damaging than Rudra's (like 3-5%) outside Abyssea with a good build, but it doesn't give you ODD.

Omnipotent says hi.

Piercing weak enemies say hi, probably. Omnipotence gives you 35 DEX more than me. 35 DEX doesn't add a thousand damage.

Thats not 7k

ruby light gj

I see me!

nq mob

oh my bad

I swear those are piercing weak, as I've said before <_<

For instance, unless your 316 damage hit was a set proc:
D60 Daka +2 * 3.15 max pDIF * 1.43 crit damage bonus = 270 damage

Your hit immediately after your 7k Rudra's was a 316 damage crit.
D60 * 3.15 * 1.43 = 270
D60 * 2.5 * 1.43 = 214

So it wasn't a doubled damage crit. They're just piercing weak.

lol everything is piercing weak

they aren't piercing weak, i had stalwarts and red curry, that's normally my damage with stalwarts.

Does the dex from omnipotent really beat out the TA from apoc? I find that hard to believe.

i've been using omni over GH

If you looked at the math I did, that proved they're piercing weak. You did more than the maximum possible damage to a non-piercing weak enemy on your next swing after the WS.

Ah that should have been pretty obvious eh? oh well

i'll have to double check but im almost positive they arent piercing weak.

No need to do the test, I think I found conclusive proof that they're piercing weak.

soooo everything in abyssea altep is piercing weak then because that's my standard dmg with stalwarts

shoulda cropped that ss better man lol

u kno those

just as a reference the ws does do triple dmg
just as a reference rudras is triple dmg, and dnc has a lot of options for crit dmg+, 1 of which im sure yuna is wearing cus its kind of standard, so ur math is missing some stuff there, not to mention a lot of the formulas for ws dmg are wrong now lol, especially in abyssea, the current ws dmg formula for example on 2hnd ws's is far off the mark, kaiten rapes the numbers by thousands for example, and jinpu also has a similar effect in and out of abys, i hit a 10k jinpu in salvage like the same week i got amano to 90

10k jinpu on chigoes doesnt count brah

I got Daka+2 for my Thief back when it first came out. When i use it on Dancer I don't hit 7k with Rudra's Storm alone but do over 12k total with solo darkness. I recommend you get the Twashtar since they are pretty easy too get now and no point settling for the Daka.

10k on puks tho does my friend

no it doesnt lol

No, they're piercing weak because they're piercing weak.

I just went out and hit them around. 342 damage was my max crit with minuets and Stalwart's. They definitely have stupidly low defense, but they're also definitely piercing weak.

48 + 13 (fSTR) = 61
61 * 3.15 * 1.43 = 274
274 * 1.25 = 342

342 is the max crit, therefore we're getting the 25% piercing weak bonus on them.