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Serveur: Titan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1612
By Titan.Lillica 2011-04-02 05:05:29
Leviathan.Kajii said: I just realized mine would make sense as I got a new debit card this month and they do have the old card info on there that's been deactivated since a couple days ago, so I'm assuming that's my problem.
Anyone else with this issue have anything change with their account at all? Idk if this is effecting it, but I just reactivated account after a year+ hiatus in late February.
I changed my CC to my new bank in January, February auto-payment went through though, so this *should* not be my issue.
Phoenix.Amael said: The Different between me and my second char are:
1. One bought something and got charged (Mule)
2. One has a Square-Enix ID
So lets see. All those who got their accounts/content ID deactivated, do they have a Square-Enix ID (Security Token)? I would be a little relieved to at least get this error, I actually get all the way to the Play > message > Play and before the window opens with the "It all began..." I get a message about not having a content ID. I'm not getting any errors about payments so I am left guessing.
By Artemicion 2011-04-02 05:05:31
Sylph.Liltrouble said: again, I thought SE insisted that April was free and there won't be any charges aside from expansions?
They did, however there was probably a goof in enabling April to be free for all customers, basically making the "process" of the billing go through, but letting it not actually charge to your card, which unfortunately has a mechanism to prevent that as fraud thus disabling your account.
It's difficult to explain. Basically the billing process went through, but SE made sure it didn't "charge", but because it is seen as a bank cancellation from POL, it disables your account.
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By Titan.Lillica 2011-04-02 05:10:34
Artemicion said: Sylph.Liltrouble said: again, I thought SE insisted that April was free and there won't be any charges aside from expansions?
They did, however there was probably a goof in enabling April to be free for all customers, basically making the "process" of the billing go through, but letting it not actually charge to your card, which unfortunately has a mechanism to prevent that as fraud thus disabling your account.
It's difficult to explain. Basically the billing process went through, but SE made sure it didn't "charge", but because it is seen as a bank cancellation from POL, it disables your account.
So you are saying SE made one of those "hanging" payment processes (forget what they are called but you don't actually get charged) and then they cancelled, which some banks may be seeing as needing to shut the whole thing down between them and SE. So now SE is not talking with the bank and assumes your CC is bad based on that? Something like...
SE: Hey charge this guy $0!
Bank: LOL, k.
SE: Derp, NVM.
Bank: WTF, GTFO.
SE: Bank? Hello?
Bank: /blist ***
SE: WTF LIES CONSPIRACY BANHAMMER!
Me: WHAT THE *** MY TRAVERSER STONES!
More or less?
Phoenix.Amael
Serveur: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2983
By Phoenix.Amael 2011-04-02 05:12:43
Titan.Lillica said:
So you are saying SE made one of those "hanging" payment processes (forget what they are called but you don't actually get charged) and then they cancelled, which some banks may be seeing as needing to shut the whole thing down between them and SE. So now SE is not talking with the bank and assumes your CC is bad based on that? Something like...
SE: Hey charge this guy $0!
Bank: LOL, k.
SE: Derp, NVM.
Bank: WTF, GTFO.
SE: Bank? Hello?
Bank: /blist ***
SE: WTF LIES CONSPIRACY BANHAMMER!
Me: WHAT THE *** MY TRAVERSER STONES!
More or less?
I lol'd
Edit: But yep, of my understanding of what Art said I think this happened. Im going to bed soon so I wont touch it for the moment. Want to see the official statement from SE soon.
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By Bismarck.Raistlinratt 2011-04-02 05:13:41
Artemicion said: Sylph.Liltrouble said: again, I thought SE insisted that April was free and there won't be any charges aside from expansions?
They did, however there was probably a goof in enabling April to be free for all customers, basically making the "process" of the billing go through, but letting it not actually charge to your card, which unfortunately has a mechanism to prevent that as fraud thus disabling your account.
It's difficult to explain. Basically the billing process went through, but SE made sure it didn't "charge", but because it is seen as a bank cancellation from POL, it disables your account.
Doesn't explain how one account with same square enix ID and CC got cancelled and other is fine :( This process has a 50% chance? lol
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By Sylph.Liltrouble 2011-04-02 05:13:45
Phoenix.Amael said: Titan.Lillica said:
So you are saying SE made one of those "hanging" payment processes (forget what they are called but you don't actually get charged) and then they cancelled, which some banks may be seeing as needing to shut the whole thing down between them and SE. So now SE is not talking with the bank and assumes your CC is bad based on that? Something like...
SE: Hey charge this guy $0!
Bank: LOL, k.
SE: Derp, NVM.
Bank: WTF, GTFO.
SE: Bank? Hello?
Bank: /blist ***
SE: WTF LIES CONSPIRACY BANHAMMER!
Me: WHAT THE *** MY TRAVERSER STONES!
More or less?
I lol'd Me too, lol
By Artemicion 2011-04-02 05:14:35
More like:
SE: Hey! Charge $15, OWAIT NVM!
Bank: LOL K! /cancel payment
POL: WTF, Y U NO ACCEPT PAYMENT?! /BAN
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By Artemicion 2011-04-02 05:17:56
ROFL, I canceled my quest for Mog Safe because the second option was funny. I wasn't disappointed.
Moogle: Please let me go on a break master!
Taru: NO! YOUR TIME IS MINE!
Moogle: You're so cruel! T_T
Diabolos.Neclord
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Posts: 504
By Diabolos.Neclord 2011-04-02 05:18:47
Sylph.Liltrouble said: Phoenix.Amael said: Titan.Lillica said: So you are saying SE made one of those "hanging" payment processes (forget what they are called but you don't actually get charged) and then they cancelled, which some banks may be seeing as needing to shut the whole thing down between them and SE. So now SE is not talking with the bank and assumes your CC is bad based on that? Something like... SE: Hey charge this guy $0! Bank: LOL, k. SE: Derp, NVM. Bank: WTF, GTFO. SE: Bank? Hello? Bank: /blist *** SE: WTF LIES CONSPIRACY BANHAMMER! Me: WHAT THE *** MY TRAVERSER STONES! More or less? I lol'd Me too, lol haha same more so cuz you spelled out what the *** for yourself and not se, but yea you could log into membership and check to see if id's are active or dia'd...if they are dia'd gonna get charged to activate.
By Artemicion 2011-04-02 05:20:56
Long story short, the billing process got goofed and went through for some people. Some people got the cue from SE to NOT be charged, but POL doesn't know better and thinks you're canceling a legitimate payment hence the temp ban.
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Posts: 1612
By Titan.Lillica 2011-04-02 05:24:24
Artemicion said: Long story short, the billing process got goofed and went through for some people. Some people got the cue from SE to NOT be charged, but POL doesn't know better and thinks you're canceling a legitimate payment hence the temp ban.
Why am I able to get into POL though while Amael is only able to get to the login part? I get as far as the FFXI screen, I can get to the content ID menu but when I try to review, purchase, activate etc, it gives me an error about that not being an option.
Like you said either way they goofed, not much we can do until they get ***straight I guess.
Phoenix.Amael
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Posts: 2983
By Phoenix.Amael 2011-04-02 05:26:24
Artemicion said: More like:
SE: Hey! Charge $15, OWAIT NVM!
Bank: LOL K! /cancel payment
POL: WTF, Y U NO ACCEPT PAYMENT?! /BAN
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By Artemicion 2011-04-02 05:27:53
I dunno, everyone seems to have a different scenario. But then again this is Playonline.
Phoenix.Amael
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By Phoenix.Amael 2011-04-02 05:28:22
that guy looks cute =^^=
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By Sylph.Citrelautame 2011-04-02 05:45:49
It appears to me (guessing becuase not everyone has explained their full story, that its only effecting players who have made a change to their plan recently (reactivated an ID, deleted one, bought an expac, etc.) could be wrong tho just seems to fit
Bismarck.Cerelyn
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By Bismarck.Cerelyn 2011-04-02 05:49:51
Due to the temporary suspension of the FINAL FANTASY XI game service, customers with active, paying subscriptions as of March 2011 will not be charged monthly FINAL FANTASY XI subscription fees ($12.95 + $1.00 per additional Content ID) for the April billing cycle. Below is a list of important notices for affected customers.
[Important Notes]
* Only customers who paid subscription fees for March 2011 are eligible. Customers registering new accounts or reactivating accounts in April are not eligible.
* Fees for any additional Content IDs purchased from April 1, 2011 onwards will not be waived.
* Any charges aside from monthly subscription and additional Content ID fees (e.g., expansion purchases, etc.) will not be waived.
* Customers who closed their accounts during March will be eligible. However, you must reactivate your account before the end of April; since subscription fees are only being waived for the month of April, we recommend you reactivate early in order to reap the full benefits of this offer.
Phoenix.Amael
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Posts: 2983
By Phoenix.Amael 2011-04-02 05:54:35
Sylph.Citrelautame said: It appears to me (guessing becuase not everyone has explained their full story, that its only effecting players who have made a change to their plan recently (reactivated an ID, deleted one, bought an expac, etc.) could be wrong tho just seems to fit I didn't changed my account in the slightest. Everything is exactly the same as it was 6 months ago.
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Posts: 1549
By Sylph.Liltrouble 2011-04-02 05:55:08
Bismarck.Cerelyn said: Due to the temporary suspension of the FINAL FANTASY XI game service, customers with active, paying subscriptions as of March 2011 will not be charged monthly FINAL FANTASY XI subscription fees ($12.95 + $1.00 per additional Content ID) for the April billing cycle. Below is a list of important notices for affected customers.
[Important Notes]
* Only customers who paid subscription fees for March 2011 are eligible. Customers registering new accounts or reactivating accounts in April are not eligible.
* Fees for any additional Content IDs purchased from April 1, 2011 onwards will not be waived.
* Any charges aside from monthly subscription and additional Content ID fees (e.g., expansion purchases, etc.) will not be waived.
* Customers who closed their accounts during March will be eligible. However, you must reactivate your account before the end of April; since subscription fees are only being waived for the month of April, we recommend you reactivate early in order to reap the full benefits of this offer. I've had an active subscription for 8 years. I changed my payment information recently, and have no expansions bills due.
Bismarck.Cerelyn
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Posts: 365
By Bismarck.Cerelyn 2011-04-02 06:13:53
Sylph.Liltrouble said: Bismarck.Cerelyn said: Due to the temporary suspension of the FINAL FANTASY XI game service, customers with active, paying subscriptions as of March 2011 will not be charged monthly FINAL FANTASY XI subscription fees ($12.95 + $1.00 per additional Content ID) for the April billing cycle. Below is a list of important notices for affected customers.
[Important Notes]
* Only customers who paid subscription fees for March 2011 are eligible. Customers registering new accounts or reactivating accounts in April are not eligible.
* Fees for any additional Content IDs purchased from April 1, 2011 onwards will not be waived.
* Any charges aside from monthly subscription and additional Content ID fees (e.g., expansion purchases, etc.) will not be waived.
* Customers who closed their accounts during March will be eligible. However, you must reactivate your account before the end of April; since subscription fees are only being waived for the month of April, we recommend you reactivate early in order to reap the full benefits of this offer. I've had an active subscription for 8 years. I changed my payment information recently, and have no expansions bills due. That may be it.
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Posts: 768
By Asura.Arkanethered 2011-04-02 06:16:22
I have 4 accounts... 3 are fine.
The one that I reactivated in Feb. Now is deactivated due to CC issues... and has a $42 reactivation fee.
All 4 autocharged for march just fine.
Fenrir.Krazyrs
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By Fenrir.Krazyrs 2011-04-02 06:18:37
idk my friend gave me his info yesterday so i can have a dualbox WHM
at first trying to log in it said he had no content ID
full comp reset, and when i went to activate the content IDs then, it said there was none that could be reactivated
so i hit play and it went thro just fine
i paid for his late fee's just yesterday too
swappin his cc info to mine
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2011-04-02 06:20:10
"Your account has been closed due to unpadi fees"
Uh... no?
SE fix your ***.
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2011-04-02 06:32:17
ok I did have unpaid fees... cause I forgot to change my cc...
now it wants me to reactivate the IDs... WHICH I CAN'T CAUSE OF SOME *** HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE NONSENSE.
kinda wondering why I came back now ... this is pissing me off badly.
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Posts: 15066
By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-04-02 06:32:56
Just logged in w/ no issues
By Artemicion 2011-04-02 06:34:01
Leviathan.Catnipthief said: ok I did have unpaid fees... cause I forgot to change my cc...
now it wants me to reactivate the IDs... WHICH I CAN'T CAUSE OF SOME *** HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE NONSENSE.
kinda wondering why I came back now ... this is pissing me off badly.
Just unfortunate happenstance.
You need valid, up to date payment information to continue playing on a recurring basis, and maintenance is to assure these things are kept in order. It just so happens you took action during their downtime.
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By Titan.Lillica 2011-04-02 06:34:20
At least you have figured out what is going on with yours. My CC info is correct and has plenty o'money in the account. I'm not getting any messages regarding unpaid fees, just saying I have no content ID still and because of maintenance I can't get to a point to verify which are/should be active.
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By Asura.Arkanethered 2011-04-02 06:35:31
I just wanna know how 1 account with no mules has a reactivation of $42
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By Sylph.Liltrouble 2011-04-02 06:35:32
I shouldn't have any unpaid fees whatsoever and am still getting the same message of no content ID at the 'play' screen 2 hours later
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2011-04-02 06:36:55
Artemicion said: Leviathan.Catnipthief said: ok I did have unpaid fees... cause I forgot to change my cc...
now it wants me to reactivate the IDs... WHICH I CAN'T CAUSE OF SOME *** HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE NONSENSE.
kinda wondering why I came back now ... this is pissing me off badly.
Just unfortunate happenstance.
You need valid, up to date payment information to continue playing on a recurring basis, and maintenance is to assure these things are kept in order. It just so happens you took action during their downtime.
Which would be nice and all if I could UPDATE IT TO THE RIGHT INFORMATION.
I log in, it says I have to reactivate... click reactivate... log in ... BAM ERROR.
It says something about "Invalid Process, try again"
*** you se.
By Artemicion 2011-04-02 06:37:32
Asura.Arkanethered said: I just wanna know how 1 account with no mules has a reactivation of $42
Dunno. That's the equivalent of three months of unpaid fees.
Just DC'd from the game. Tried logging back in and it said that I have no content id. This miffed me even moreso. I attempted to reactivate the content ID and it wouldn't let me. I think it has something to do with payment and whatnot, but I thought this month was free anyways, so what gives?
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