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Random Thoughts.....What are you thinking?
By Jetackuu 2014-10-15 03:38:30
On a slightly less nerdy note, I guess I could invest in some artic silver on my desktop, just a pain in the *** to get it that far apart anymore...
The laptop I keep on a cooler, I don't want to try to turn it off and test it's limit, I'm pretty sure I'll break it, and I like my bedside device >.>
inb4 porn joke
By Jetackuu 2014-10-15 03:46:04
As for thermal runaway:
Quote: Electrical engineering
Some electronic components develop lower resistances or lower triggering voltages (for nonlinear resistances) as their internal temperature increases. If circuit conditions cause markedly increased current flow in these situations, increased power dissipation may raise the temperature further by Joule heating. A vicious circle or positive feedback effect of thermal runaway can cause failure, sometimes in a spectacular fashion (e.g. electrical explosion or fire). To prevent these hazards, well-designed electronic systems typically incorporate current limiting protection, such as thermal fuses, circuit breakers, or PTC current limiters.
To handle larger currents, circuit designers may connect multiple lower-capacity devices (e.g. transistors, diodes, or MOVs) in parallel. This technique can work well, but is susceptible to a phenomenon called current hogging, in which the current is not shared equally across all devices. Typically, one device may have a slightly lower resistance, and thus draws more current, heating it more than its sibling devices, causing its resistance to drop further. The electrical load ends up funneling into a single device, which then rapidly fails. Thus, an array of devices may end up no more robust than its weakest component.
The current-hogging effect can be reduced by carefully matching the characteristics of each paralleled device, or by using other design techniques to balance the electrical load. However, maintaining load balance under extreme conditions may not be straightforward. Devices with an intrinsic positive temperature coefficient (PTC) of electrical resistance are less prone to current hogging, but thermal runaway can still occur because of poor heat sinking or other problems.
Many electronic circuits contain special provisions to prevent thermal runaway. This is most often seen in transistor biasing arrangements for high-power output stages. However when equipment is used above its designed ambient temperature, thermal runaway can still occur in some cases. This occasionally causes equipment failures in hot environments, or when air cooling vents are blocked.
Semiconductors
Silicon shows a peculiar profile, in that its electrical resistance increases with temperature up to about 160 °C, then starts decreasing, and drops further when the melting point is reached. This can lead to thermal runaway phenomena within internal regions of the semiconductor junction; the resistance decreases in the regions which become heated above this threshold, allowing more current to flow through the overheated regions, in turn causing yet more heating in comparison with the surrounding regions, which leads to further temperature increase and resistance decrease. This leads to the phenomenon of current crowding and formation of current filaments (similar to current hogging, but within a single device), and is one of the underlying causes of many semiconductor junction failures.
By Jetackuu 2014-10-15 03:46:37
Now to go get my *** kicked in dynasty Warriors Gundam...
edit: after checking on clicker heroes, you *** Proth... /rage I have all the heroes, just want to farm more achievements/levels before ascending just yet... Frostleaf is 100+ now though.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-10-15 05:00:19
after an ascension or two, look at getting Treebeast to level 1000. Every 25 levels after 200, that hero gets a 4x dps boost. Every 1000 levels up until level 4000, it gets a 10x dps boost. While it isn't worth it for you yet, you'll eventually want to reroll all of your gilds and stack them on treebeast, ivan, and brittany. there's more optimization later, but you can figure that stuff out as you go
By Jetackuu 2014-10-15 05:26:35
I've gotten 2 random on Grant, but why Ivan and brittany?
and yeah, I'm trying to get another soul or so before I ascension, and to clear level 140 (I've been at 139 for some time now, 140 is just insane for my currently).
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-10-15 07:27:03
Treebeast, Ivan, Brittany, and later on Masked Samurai are the most efficient gilds until the very end of the game when Frostleaf is worthwhile. Getting those ones to level 1000 and beyond is far cheaper than any other hero, and the multipliers on them make them the strongest you can get for a very long time. Each of those heroes gets its own 450% in damage buffs, which are not only multiplicative with themselves but are also multiplicative with each additive 4x and 10x boost you get every 25/1000 levels.
tl;dr they make bigger numbers in a much shorter period of time. Each ascension should be done every 5-10 souls to start out with. Once you can farm higher you'll know it and can start doing many more souls per ascension. I suggest getting the ancient Vaagur and leveling him to max ASAP so you can start spamming Energized Dark Rituals, but obviously it's your game so you can play however you want, don't let me stop you from having fun ^.^
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In other news, people complaining about how Presequel should just be BL2 DLC because $60 is too expensive for "an expansion" is pretty funny. If all of the content in PS was divvied up and sold as DLC in BL2, you'd be paying a lot more than $60.
By Ramyrez 2014-10-15 07:47:43
Quote: In other news, people complaining about how Presequel should just be BL2 DLC because $60 is too expensive for "an expansion" is pretty funny. If all of the content in PS was divvied up and sold as DLC in BL2, you'd be paying a lot more than $60.
Hooooly ***this.
Haven't had a lot of time to play it, only have about five hours in, but I've had a blast with it so far.
People will *** about anything that isn't handed to them for free on a silver platter, and then before they take it they'll still make sure to see if the silver is well-enough polished and that the server's clothes are completely wrinkle-free.
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By Bahamut.Rulerofdarkness 2014-10-15 07:49:18
Valefor.Prothescar said: »In other news, people complaining about how Presequel should just be BL2 DLC because $60 is too expensive for "an expansion" is pretty funny. If all of the content in PS was divvied up and sold as DLC in BL2, you'd be paying a lot more than $60.
"But Mom! This one only costs $20! *cough*fourtimesover*cough*
"hmmm okay son, that's a lot better than $60"
By Jetackuu 2014-10-15 07:50:15
Yeah I gathered about that after I said it, I'd get 12 souls for ascending for the first time right now, but I'll probably do it at about 14/15.
By Jetackuu 2014-10-15 07:51:21
I wish dlc would die, well the abuse of it, and I shouldn't have to go into detail to portray what I mean, we all know.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-10-15 07:52:44
are you trying to tell me that you don't enjoy paying $20 for 4 new maps? c'mon man.
ofc if any franchise is capable of being labeled as often having retail price DLC, it's call of duty. $60 for the same thing I played 3 years ago except this time with russian terrorists instead of middle eastern/south american/some other socially-perceived-as-nefarious nationality one and some other multiplayer contrivance that doesn't matter at all.
remember when fps multiplayer was about actually aiming your shots skillfully and killing people without using helicopters and remote control aircraft and that cheap *** last stand "i'm dead but not really" ***? pepperidge farm remembers.
By Jetackuu 2014-10-15 08:04:16
I miss Quake 3, but I can't play at the level I used to, that's for sure.
Used to add nightmare bots as fodder, now I can barely keep up at medium difficulty...
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By Fenrir.Weakness 2014-10-15 08:05:43
Got a stable 4.6GHz now, I'm happy enough with that. Still running hot though, idling at 40C, under high load hits in the 70s. Using a Corsair H80i with a couple of Scythe Sickle Flow fans (~100 cfm each) in a push/pull so don't know why it is so hot.
Thinking maybe too much thermal paste, or it didn't get spread very evenly. Gonna pop it off and redo it this afternoon when I get home from my clinical.
My GPU hovers around 40C, ~60C under load. Have five intake fans (well six technically, I have a push/pull over my HDD bay), H80i as an exhaust, and two 140mm exhausts at the top. Just can't think of anything other than a bad connection between the water block and the CPU.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-10-15 08:06:46
what's your voltage
By fonewear 2014-10-15 08:06:47
Got a stable 4.6GHz now, I'm happy enough with that. Still running hot though, idling at 40C, under high load hits in the 70s. Using a Corsair H80i with a couple of Scythe Sickle Flow fans (~100 cfm each) in a push/pull so don't know why it is so hot.
Thinking maybe too much thermal paste, or it didn't get spread very evenly. Gonna pop it off and redo it this afternoon when I get home from my clinical.
My GPU hovers around 40C, ~60C under load. Have five intake fans (well six technically, I have a push/pull over my HDD bay), H80i as an exhaust, and two 140mm exhausts at the top. Just can't think of anything other than a bad connection between the water block and the CPU.
Oh yea I'm running a Pentium 4 2.0 Ghz ! With 400Mhz of front side bus son !
By Jetackuu 2014-10-15 08:10:05
I still have my 2.26ghz sitting here, but I need to replace some caps on the mainboard, I want to keep 1 board with ide alive for some other things i have that ide>uab just won't cut it. (off the top of my head, putting ps2 games on a ps2 hdd).
I think it's only 333 fsb though...
By fonewear 2014-10-15 08:11:21
I'm actually getting to the point where my current PC is feeling old.
I don't need a new computer but I'm sure as hell not upgrading my current one anymore.
My computer is five years old. Just entering kindergarten.
My biggest problem is my case is too small to make significant upgrades now that video cards are enormous.
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By Bahamut.Rulerofdarkness 2014-10-15 08:15:36
Jet, do you play Quake Live?
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By Fenrir.Weakness 2014-10-15 08:16:07
Valefor.Prothescar said: »what's your voltage
Sitting at stock voltage, don't know the exact number off the top of my head but I think I'm the 1.25~1.3 ballpark.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-10-15 08:18:34
4.6GHz stable on stock voltage... talk about winning the silicon lottery. How many hours of P95 did it pass? Temps shouldn't be that bad at stock, try reseating the heatsink.
actually if you're at 1.25~1.3 it isn't stock, stock for a 3770k/4770k is 1.13v~, 4790k 1.15~1.18v. Can push haswell chips to around 1.4 on an AIO, some people have gone up to 1.5 but I'd never run that 24/7 myself.
By Jetackuu 2014-10-15 08:25:50
Bahamut.Rulerofdarkness said: »Jet, do you play Quake Live? Haven't, no. But I'll look into it.
I'm lazy and always let the board handle clock/voltages, but usually get the higher end ones that will overclock on their own.
By Ramyrez 2014-10-15 08:25:55
I miss Quake 3, but I can't play at the level I used to, that's for sure.
Used to add nightmare bots as fodder, now I can barely keep up at medium difficulty...
I miss Quake.
Maaan. Playing those old dial-up local Quake servers with my clan.
We were called "Fraggle Rock". We had Wembley, Gobo, Trash Heap, and Doozer (me).
*sigh*
Pepperidge Farm remembers indeed.
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By Fenrir.Weakness 2014-10-15 08:27:17
Valefor.Prothescar said: »4.6GHz stable on stock voltage... talk about winning the silicon lottery. How many hours of P95 did it pass? Temps shouldn't be that bad at stock, try reseating the heatsink.
actually if you're at 1.25~1.3 it isn't stock, stock for a 3770k/4770k is 1.13v~
<.< Maybe not stock, but turned off all the throttle settings and had it at boost clock (4.2GHz) and didn't deep with voltage, just BUS speed.
Did 3 hours of P95 last night, bit started hovering in the high 70s and shut it off.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-10-15 08:27:28
I don't trust autoOC software or BIOS options. They tend to go HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE and set voltage way higher than it needs to be and I hate it. Also they play with RAM clocks which I never really bother with since that's a great way to add instability to an OC.
disclaimer for my previous post: the people running their chips at 1.5v are also delidding their chips, so it's pretty dumb unless you like playing with fire.
By Jetackuu 2014-10-15 08:31:08
Haven't had an issue yet, but I may disable it later to see if my temps drop any relevant amount.
I guess I should attempt to get the bloatware working too, it's been dead for awhile.
By Jetackuu 2014-10-15 08:33:59
I had to look that up... sounds interesting: this delidding.
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2014-10-15 08:36:38
Huh. Bono apologized for giving out free music. What a ***.
By volkom 2014-10-15 08:36:51
morning RT
By Jetackuu 2014-10-15 08:39:48
Huh. Bono apologized for giving out free music. What a ***.
For having it automatically download*
lolitunes
lolmacusers
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-10-15 08:41:43
I had to look that up... sounds interesting: this delidding.
it's pretty much exactly what it sounds like. you remove the heat spreader from the cpu and have the heatsink come in direct contact with the die. Some people just replace the cheap paste inside and put the "lid" back on, though. The difference in temperature is pretty enormous, most cases being between 10~20C just for replacing the cheap paste that Intel puts between the die and heatspreader. Some have managed to reduce temps by 25C or more by not putting the heatspreader back on at all.
problem is this completely voids warranty and the chance of damaging the CPU is reasonably high if you aren't extremely careful and use the correct type of paste.
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This is a thread that I found on another website I post at. It can be really really interesting. I thought it deserved a place here.
Post your random thoughts for the day here, or anything else that intrigues you.
For starters, is it possible to give constructive critism to someone who doesn't have a neck? I totally just walked by a girl who didn't. Someone isn't getting a necklace for Valentines day!
And who decided black and white can't be colors? I want to say a racist. I really do.
Inb4thisthreadgetsreallywtf
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