Ws Sets / Blade Jin.

Ninja WS Sets.

So I had left ninja at 75 and just leveled it to 85, Hitting 1200-2200 Jin's in my old / missing Weaponskill gear I was rather impressed and am looking to fine tune it. I made up a set ( abyssea onry ) any curious if there is anything I have over looked / would work out better. specifically having trouble with feet / head and I know there is a new belt to use but cant find which it was.



Thanks! btw I dont have the katana's yet. Pop sets for both though I head Hocho's drop rate is low. Also no Loki's and will be using Haubergeon +1 until I get one have everything else.

Doesnt ACC -20 hurt Jin a lot? I dont have the helm myself so havent tried.

also, usu feet for Jin?

This is my current jin set, it's not optimal by any means.

I like your set looks alot like mine was before abyssea, And yea I cant think of any other feet bar Iga ( which I dont have yet ) then Usu, and im assuming with 80dex + acc from gear -20 should hurt to bad. Besudes Vargain, only other option would be Ohat for overkill Acc.

I dont know about loki, how much does it increase crit dmg?

With 80 dex (base dex i assume?) + dex from abyssea buffs I would think that STR + 6 > DEX + 5 for ws (thats unless loki's gives a huge boost in crit dmg)

its 5% boost to crit damage, not sure what base dex is +80 while in abyssea though and i *think* with Cav / Loki's / Qirzm should be capped at 50%+ crit damage

Night just swap koga hands and koga boots.

main hand hochomasamune, in abyssea that helm is perfectly fine on just about everything, unless its flame skimmer /rage!

also @ Zanno why WS in Cerberus mantle? not only when you probably purchased it was it more expensive then Foragers mantle, but less attack which helps out quiet a bit.

also if you can get your hands on them, Agrona's Leggings imo are far greater for WS in then AF+1 .. possibly +2 I'm not sure cause I don't have my base yet but I've got 6 cards and 8 seals .. they are not real to me >.> or when they are someone who hates me lots over me.

+3 attack isnt game breaking in any way.

Am I getting you right that you'd prefer to ws in AF3 +1 pants over byakko? I got the +2 pants, but I figured DEX +15 > katana skill +5. Maybe I'm wrong.

Aias Bonnet

Huh?! No? when did I say I'd WS in my Hakama +2 over Byakko's Haidate?!

I was saying that Agrona's Leggings(feet) would probably be better over Iga Kyahan +1/+2

If you feel cheap and don't want to buy the other ring, could always do the Attohwa [A] quest for Jupiter's Ring. Even if you don't get the attack, it's still a free DEX ring.

Varangian Helm is good inside Abyssea, since there's not a whole lot of stuff you're not capping on accuracy anymore.

Depending on money/time, you can augment rings in Ru'Aun Gardens to make mini Raja's. My first attempt with a ruby ring gave me +2 DEX and +14 Fire Resist. Cuchulain's Mantle still works quite well for back, however, Commander's Cape is a cheaper alternative. Don't WS in Suppanomimi. WS with a naked ear before WSing in that.

I actually use the AMK helm with str+4 ws acc+15 adn agi+4 ws dmg+2%. This with an HQ hauby, b. haidates, marine m boots (hume power), warwolf belt, amemet mantle+1, flame ring and rajas ring, chivy chain, with a sekka+1 in main hand and Atma of the razed ruins I do about 3k to 3.5k jins easy. I find the ws acc on the helm helps a lot due to jin being a multi hit. Outside of abyssea I expect 1k to 1.7k jins easy with that gear and its far from optimal that i only have a NQ hauby and no viking helm. I typically eat marinara pizza so its not like i have a lot of str food or anything but it works good for me because I tp in af body with iga hakamas dusk gloves, walmart turban and fuma sune-ates so I enjoy the 5% reduction in delay on top of suppa and our dual weild 5 and my culmunative haste from gear.

Interesting story I was doing the colibri nm for some bard seals and I got double march and haste while tping in my haste and dual wield gear with Razed ruins.... Pld tank, very well geared drakesbane drg, 2 blms and rdm bombing it trying to pop !! and well... i was pretty much hundredfists critical hits and yea... could not pull hate of me if your LIFE DEPENDED ON IT.

I'm glad your a ninja. At 85 with RR and VV ninja is an INDEMAND DD. Cap your crit hit merits, your str merits, cap your katana merits and stick around. The year of the ninja is on us. We finally get to do what we were created to do

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What was your gear on colibri ? i was with an accuracy set, no food, miss like hell. no atma RR or VV tho, does they help a lot with acc?

Okay, not posting all my diff jin sets. Just have a quick question. Has anyone done a great amount of testing with Breeze gorget and Iga erimaki?

I've been sticking with breeze outside abyssea and iga while inside. However, not sure if it's really worth it right now.

I would guess Breeze Gorget > Iga Erimaki. Iga Erimaki is only 2% crit damage increase. Stacking it, I guess could take over, but I'd probably stick with gorget.

Well benchmarking base damage at 300 *1.1ftp -> 330*3.0 990 *1.30 = 1287 w/ gorget

300*3.0 -> 900 *1.32 1188 with NIN neck

That's only calculating the first hit though, and fTP boost doesn't apply to all hits, but the neck is only +2%. I'd personally stick with gorget, at best AF3 might break even

ty, maybe after the back and ammo I will consider switching back to erimaki.

Not to mention 7 acc VS 10 acc; not terribly necessary.

well i'm looking for crit dmg only. on non nm mobs in abyssea I use v.helm

Even with the back/ammo the increment would be the same. fTP and +crit are both multipliers, and .10 will always be > .02.

I WS in Suppa! Too full up in inventory to get a drone earring for 1 more AGI on Hi (Still Brutal Ear2 of course).

Ok just got Cavaros mantle, leaning towards using it over NQ Cerberus in abyssea for Jin. Opinion? (This is with RR + VV)

Ate Marinara pizza. Had 4 acc from ecphoria ring, 6 acc on iga hakama+1 plus 3 katana skill, 5 acc on neck, 3 acc on waist, and thats it with pizza and 3 katana skill merits. Didn't miss a swing. when the bird ate my pizza and i switched to squid sushi i noticed a drop in acc. RR gives 50 dex tho and I had dex enhancement too so whatever my acc was from that i guess helped. I was also behind the mob with Innin up for increase in acc and crit hits

I see, i didnt used food on it, and i was tanking, under yonin that's why i was missing so much !, with innin yeah, you dont miss often from behind.

my jin set up as follows..



and my blade: ten set up too




Shura legs +1 for my lack of Haidate

if my images dont show.. just check my profile meh

I just use this as my Blade: Jin setup. Still need to finish my sea gorget, af+1 hands, and some better boots. Swap out Cuchulain's Mantle for Forager's usually if I don't need the extra acc. Augment on Anwig is Str/dex+4 wsacc+15 crit hit dmg+2%.

With your crit rate at about 50% without any gear for it, I'd say it's worth it, yeah (So on average you're getting +2.5% damage out of it), and your fSTR is probably at or near cap with VV.

Outside Abyssea though, Cerb's probably much better, heh.


Probably was your imagination since sushi gives way more accuracy than pizza does.


Shouldn't use Senj on offhand. The crit rate on it only applies to itself. Kamome, on the other hand, applies to all hits. It's worth losing 1 base damage if that's the setup you're going to use (Though personally I think Kamome/Perdu would be better if you have access to the latter).