Even though it's very vague at the moment, does it sound like we're getting the shaft in the next level cap?
Perhaps this "Magic that helps manage enmity" will be for us but it doesn't sound like we're getting much.
Getting The Shaft?
Getting the shaft?
Cerberus.Tidis said:
Even though it's very vague at the moment, does it sound like we're getting the shaft in the next level cap?
Perhaps this "Magic that helps manage enmity" will be for us but it doesn't sound like we're getting much.
Perhaps this "Magic that helps manage enmity" will be for us but it doesn't sound like we're getting much.
I'm a pld dieheart, yet... I still don't think that pld has gotten the shaft. I mean, last update there was alot of good stuff. You cannot get good stuff EVERY time. We'll get Pro5 and the sort, Someone was saying we should get cure V, but cure V does less hate then IV, so IMO it'd be a moot spell.
Also, on the note. Every job is complaining 'We're being shafted' or 'We're getting shitty update again' basicly everyone is QQing about this extremely, EXTREMELY vague release of info. Well everyone except theifs.
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Cerberus.Tidis said:
Even though it's very vague at the moment, does it sound like we're getting the shaft in the next level cap?
Perhaps this "Magic that helps manage enmity" will be for us but it doesn't sound like we're getting much.
Perhaps this "Magic that helps manage enmity" will be for us but it doesn't sound like we're getting much.
I hope it's for DRK, like some hate-shedding dark magic. In a sense, that'll help Paladin a bit.
Midgardsormr.Renala said:
Cerberus.Tidis said:
Even though it's very vague at the moment, does it sound like we're getting the shaft in the next level cap?
Perhaps this "Magic that helps manage enmity" will be for us but it doesn't sound like we're getting much.
Perhaps this "Magic that helps manage enmity" will be for us but it doesn't sound like we're getting much.
I'm a pld dieheart, yet... I still don't think that pld has gotten the shaft. I mean, last update there was alot of good stuff. You cannot get good stuff EVERY time. We'll get Pro5 and the sort, Someone was saying we should get cure V, but cure V does less hate then IV, so IMO it'd be a moot spell.
Also, on the note. Every job is complaining 'We're being shafted' or 'We're getting shitty update again' basicly everyone is QQing about this extremely, EXTREMELY vague release of info. Well everyone except theifs.
Asura.Deadwing said:
If the hate controlling spells don't go to paladin only, then yes they'll most certainly be getting the shaft. With the new fast cast and aquaveil changes a hate spell on rdm would put it ahead of paladin hands down... My money is that there is going to be Flash 2 or something lame and it'll be paladin onry. They wouldn't kill the rdm/ninja tank and then revive them again the next update when they're still just as overpowered for tanking if not more so.
I personally forsee tanks getting some kinda hate spell, caster DD, maybe even some melee DD, getting a spell or JA to lower hate somehow. Flash 2 for pld is likely in the works, and some kinda hate ninjutsu is in the works likely too. I know its not on topic, But they need to throw nin a bone for tanking. I'm not sure if adding utsu:san would revive them even..
Wouldn't Utsusemi: San make Nin ridiculously overpowered? At least for solo. Anything that doesn't spam attacks that either bypass or wipe shadows would be effortlessly tanked by a nin.
Asura.Deadwing said:
Midgardsormr.Renala said:
Asura.Deadwing said:
If the hate controlling spells don't go to paladin only, then yes they'll most certainly be getting the shaft. With the new fast cast and aquaveil changes a hate spell on rdm would put it ahead of paladin hands down... My money is that there is going to be Flash 2 or something lame and it'll be paladin onry. They wouldn't kill the rdm/ninja tank and then revive them again the next update when they're still just as overpowered for tanking if not more so.
I personally forsee tanks getting some kinda hate spell, caster DD, maybe even some melee DD, getting a spell or JA to lower hate somehow. Flash 2 for pld is likely in the works, and some kinda hate ninjutsu is in the works likely too. I know its not on topic, But they need to throw nin a bone for tanking. I'm not sure if adding utsu:san would revive them even..
All that ninja needs to be revived is a way to spam CE spells... the way they usedto could.Tthey don't even need another shadow spell though it'd sure help.
Edit: And agreed ninja deserves a tanking bone
True, true.. but my last mention of nin is I'm not pro-nin, do not mistake me. I hate nin, and now back to pld talk XD
Everyone is thinking that the hate spells are going to the tanks. But when I read the information, I took it as a spell that you cast on the tank to increase hate. Sort of like the BRD merit spells.
Just my intitial take on it when I read it. Thought I would throw it out there :)
Just my intitial take on it when I read it. Thought I would throw it out there :)
If you look at the picture it shows the SCHOLAR using the spell..
so it'll go with Libra quite easily id assume
so it'll go with Libra quite easily id assume
Honestly, I immedietly thought it would be a new sch spell. Seeing they got the enmity ja, makes sense.
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Cerberus.Tidis said:
Even though it's very vague at the moment, does it sound like we're getting the shaft in the next level cap?
Perhaps this "Magic that helps manage enmity" will be for us but it doesn't sound like we're getting much.
Perhaps this "Magic that helps manage enmity" will be for us but it doesn't sound like we're getting much.
Cerberus.Tidis said:
Even though it's very vague at the moment, does it sound like we're getting the shaft in the next level cap?
Perhaps this "Magic that helps manage enmity" will be for us but it doesn't sound like we're getting much.
Perhaps this "Magic that helps manage enmity" will be for us but it doesn't sound like we're getting much.
Definitely not getting anything individually from this increase, likely from later ones though. The enmity spells seem interesting, depends if raises your +enmity or simply increases current CE by %. The latter would be awesome. Also, PDT songs, if they exceed 50% cap you could very well be waving goodbye to /NIN. Probably not likely though.
It's a little too early to be sounding the alarms about getting shafted. Paladin is a pretty solid job in general, if anything it's the tank role as a whole that needs an overhaul in this game.
Phoenix.Avelle said:
It's a little too early to be sounding the alarms about getting shafted. Paladin is a pretty solid job in general, if anything it's the tank role as a whole that needs an overhaul in this game.
DDs > Aegiscats
Phoenix.Avelle said:
It's a little too early to be sounding the alarms about getting shafted. Paladin is a pretty solid job in general, if anything it's the tank role as a whole that needs an overhaul in this game.
Need some legitimately dangerous NMs that can't be tanked by MNKs, DRKs, and SAMs, and probably an overhaul of the enmity system along with that...
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I dont think PLD is gonna get the enmity-thingy-spells.
SCH recently got Libra, I'm gonna put my money on SCH getting that new spell thingy too.
SCH recently got Libra, I'm gonna put my money on SCH getting that new spell thingy too.
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It is for SCH, but casting on tanks would be interesting, increase tank enmity, lower others. Still doesn't fix PLD in that using a DD tank is still more optimal however =\
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Asura.Deadwing said:
And agreed ninja deserves a tanking bone
I still stand by this argument
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Ifrit.Darkanaseur said:
It is for SCH, but casting on tanks would be interesting, increase tank enmity, lower others. Still doesn't fix PLD in that using a DD tank is still more optimal however =\
Probably just gonna be used to reduce hate, but yeah.
Personally I still trust a PLD more than I would trust a dd-tank, depending on the situation ofc, but mostly I prefer a PLD:P
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The fact that Atonement is gimp in abyssea is not helping PLD at all either.
Bismarck.Kyaaadaa said:
Asura.Deadwing said:
And agreed ninja deserves a tanking bone
I still stand by this argument
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Bismarck.Kyaaadaa said:
Asura.Deadwing said:
And agreed ninja deserves a tanking bone
I still stand by this argument
Throwing DD, of course! /blm and spam the crap out of ninjistu! do some damage! go go!
PLD severely needs an update. Way more than any of the jobs updated imo.
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