lol, I'll have to say Daimos, your profile comment did make me laugh.
It would be an aces helm if KV didn't hate me.
The Dark 5 Hit (kinda)
The dark 5 hit (kinda)
Carbuncle.Deathdealerjax said:
lol, I'll have to say Daimos, your profile comment did make me laugh.
It would be an aces helm if KV didn't hate me.
It would be an aces helm if KV didn't hate me.
This is why we can't have nice things :(
My 5-hit, I TP in turban not a Aces, my Aces is for show.
Aces helm is gimp dont camp KV! I never use mine other than to show off for town gear :/
Get rid of askar head and body that shits gross.
Aces helm is gimp dont camp KV! I never use mine other than to show off for town gear :/
Get rid of askar head and body that shits gross.
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Shiva.Daimos said:
Every time God sees anyone with askar, he murders millions of kittens.
^ for this reason I approve of using Askar.
Bahamut.Zorander said:
Shiva.Daimos said:
Every time God sees anyone with askar, he murders millions of kittens.
^ for this reason I approve of using Askar.
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U mad?
I don't see where I got "angry" but instead it does show how much you fail with your lolaskar. ^^ or the fact that you use Heca over Hauberk +1 for WS. Should I keep going?
I must. That was a TP set, not a WS set... I guess your not bright enough to know that.. Steriods got to your little brain yet?.. sad.
Looking at your poor excuse for a tp build. Askar+perle body+ homam, you really don't understand anything about Drk. You would use Abyss cape and bomb core over fire bomblet and Foragers... yeah real bright. You have no idea what I look like irl, but I'm sure you have assumed the wrong idea. Assumptions just make an *** out of people like you. But then again, you don't have the brain power to understand anything above 5th grade math. But at least you were orignal.. lol "Jizzmal" like I haven't heard that before.....
I don't see where I got "angry" but instead it does show how much you fail with your lolaskar. ^^ or the fact that you use Heca over Hauberk +1 for WS. Should I keep going?
I must. That was a TP set, not a WS set... I guess your not bright enough to know that.. Steriods got to your little brain yet?.. sad.
Looking at your poor excuse for a tp build. Askar+perle body+ homam, you really don't understand anything about Drk. You would use Abyss cape and bomb core over fire bomblet and Foragers... yeah real bright. You have no idea what I look like irl, but I'm sure you have assumed the wrong idea. Assumptions just make an *** out of people like you. But then again, you don't have the brain power to understand anything above 5th grade math. But at least you were orignal.. lol "Jizzmal" like I haven't heard that before.....
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Ok guys iota ring or any other accuracy ring should be replaced by blitz ring when you dont need the accuracy
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Seraph.Rafik said:
Ok guys iota ring or any other accuracy ring should be replace by blitz ring when you dont need the accuracy
Blitz ring is situational, or you can macro it in for diabolic eye phase.
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Fenrir.Gradd said:
My 5-hit, I TP in turban not a Aces, my Aces is for show.
Aces helm is gimp dont camp KV! I never use mine other than to show off for town gear :/
Get rid of askar head and body that shits gross.
Aces helm is gimp dont camp KV! I never use mine other than to show off for town gear :/
Get rid of askar head and body that shits gross.
if you have dusk +1 gloves why arent you wearing blitz ring and replace the cerb manlte+1 with Cuchulain's Mantle?
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Seraph.Rafik said:
Fenrir.Gradd said:
My 5-hit, I TP in turban not a Aces, my Aces is for show.
Aces helm is gimp dont camp KV! I never use mine other than to show off for town gear :/
Get rid of askar head and body that shits gross.
Aces helm is gimp dont camp KV! I never use mine other than to show off for town gear :/
Get rid of askar head and body that shits gross.
if you have dusk +1 gloves why arent you wearing blitz ring and replace the cerb manlte+1 with Cuchulain's Mantle?
Blitz and cuchu are situational, Dusk+1 is not.
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Seraph.Rafik said:
Fenrir.Gradd said:
My 5-hit, I TP in turban not a Aces, my Aces is for show.
Aces helm is gimp dont camp KV! I never use mine other than to show off for town gear :/
Get rid of askar head and body that shits gross.
Aces helm is gimp dont camp KV! I never use mine other than to show off for town gear :/
Get rid of askar head and body that shits gross.
if you have dusk +1 gloves why arent you wearing blitz ring and replace the cerb manlte+1 with Cuchulain's Mantle?
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Just to run the numbers for you faildealerjax( yeah corny I know)
Your proposed (semi)5 hit
Attack: 19
Str: 14(10.5)24.5 total attack
Acc: 26
Dex: 12(9)total acc 21
2% double attack
Haste: 17%
Vs my proposed 5 hit
Attack: 20
Str: 26(19.5)Total attack 46
Acc:33
Dex: 15(11.25)total acc 44.25
Haste: 18%
Now are you smart enough to run the numbers here or should I do it for you?
I might as well, never know what bad steroids do to you. ^^
Going from your 5 hit vs My 5 hit I gain:
Total attack(Str+normal attack): +21.50
Str: +12
Total acc(Dex+Normal Acc): +23.25
Haste: +1%
full 5 hit build without hoping at least 3 hits land.
What I lose going from your build to mine:
2% double attack.....
wow that 2 extra attack per 100 swings are just gonna PWN me....
Your proposed (semi)5 hit
Attack: 19
Str: 14(10.5)24.5 total attack
Acc: 26
Dex: 12(9)total acc 21
2% double attack
Haste: 17%
Vs my proposed 5 hit
Attack: 20
Str: 26(19.5)Total attack 46
Acc:33
Dex: 15(11.25)total acc 44.25
Haste: 18%
Now are you smart enough to run the numbers here or should I do it for you?
I might as well, never know what bad steroids do to you. ^^
Going from your 5 hit vs My 5 hit I gain:
Total attack(Str+normal attack): +21.50
Str: +12
Total acc(Dex+Normal Acc): +23.25
Haste: +1%
full 5 hit build without hoping at least 3 hits land.
What I lose going from your build to mine:
2% double attack.....
wow that 2 extra attack per 100 swings are just gonna PWN me....
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This thread seems eerily familiar...
Why is the argument always over a measly 2 DA? WHY?!
Why is the argument always over a measly 2 DA? WHY?!
Shiva.Daimos said:
This thread seems eerily familiar...
Why is the argument always over a measly 2 DA? WHY?!
Why is the argument always over a measly 2 DA? WHY?!
Because without those 2% double attack YOU WILL NEVER DOUBLE ATTACK EVER!
(Atleast that's what people think, WAR AF feet vs dusk anyone!?)
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Shiva.Daimos said:
This thread seems eerily familiar...
Why is the argument always over a measly 2 DA? WHY?!
Why is the argument always over a measly 2 DA? WHY?!
Don't forget askar is cool
Alexander.Temaruma said:
Shiva.Daimos said:
This thread seems eerily familiar...
Why is the argument always over a measly 2 DA? WHY?!
Why is the argument always over a measly 2 DA? WHY?!
Don't forget askar is cool
Alexander.Temaruma said:
Seraph.Rafik said:
if you have dusk +1 gloves why arent you wearing blitz ring and replace the cerb manlte+1 with Cuchulain's Mantle?
Shiva.Daimos said:
Blitz and cuchu are situational, Dusk+1 is not.
Also: Now that we're level 80, Askar Korazin is more viable for older content. Thanks to level correction and increased skill, we're getting an NQ Pizza-like accuracy boost.... just don't use it on abyssea EXP parties or tougher mobs.
Askar Head is a no-no, though
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Phoenix.Fredjan said:
Where does this pic come from?
Uhh was originally part of a ms paint comic or something, just google it :P
Off-topic, but:
Absolution with DEX+6 and ACC+16 says hi. Pop an NQ/HQ Pizza and you're set. Yes, I admit to having an Amemet Mantle +1. No, I don't really give a ***.
Cerberus.Dizzmal said:
You would use Abyss cape and bomb core over fire bomblet and Foragers... yeah real bright.
Absolution with DEX+6 and ACC+16 says hi. Pop an NQ/HQ Pizza and you're set. Yes, I admit to having an Amemet Mantle +1. No, I don't really give a ***.
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Alexander.Temaruma said:
Phoenix.Fredjan said:
Where does this pic come from?
Uhh was originally part of a ms paint comic or something, just google it :P
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Alexander.Temaruma said:
Phoenix.Fredjan said:
Where does this pic come from?
Uhh was originally part of a ms paint comic or something, just google it :P
Well to be specific.. the ms paint comic was on 4chan, resulting in the meme :3
Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
Off-topic, but: Absolution with DEX+6 and ACC+16 says hi. Pop an NQ/HQ Pizza and you're set. Yes, I admit to having an Amemet Mantle +1. No, I don't really give a ***.
Cerberus.Dizzmal said:
You would use Abyss cape and bomb core over fire bomblet and Foragers... yeah real bright.
we were talking about a 5 hit build setup. with that setup you would think you would be capped acc on most things anyway. But thanks for the input.
My normal drk tp setup uses a plaga and will stay that way till I see what the end trials are gonna be. I'd hate to waste time on a trial that ends up sucking at the end. Not sure yet.
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Alexander.Temaruma said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Alexander.Temaruma said:
Phoenix.Fredjan said:
Where does this pic come from?
Uhh was originally part of a ms paint comic or something, just google it :P
Well to be specific.. the ms paint comic was on 4chan, resulting in the meme :3
a kind of unless you were there thing.
i was there :3
back when that site still hadn't completely went to ***with the younger generation of internet-goers.
not saying that I'm all that older but stuff seems a lot more shallow nowadays.
Should wear sword strap if you're using Plaga scythe, since it's 528 delay. For a 6hit build anyway.
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Cerberus.Dizzmal said:
Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
Off-topic, but: Absolution with DEX+6 and ACC+16 says hi. Pop an NQ/HQ Pizza and you're set. Yes, I admit to having an Amemet Mantle +1. No, I don't really give a ***.
Cerberus.Dizzmal said:
You would use Abyss cape and bomb core over fire bomblet and Foragers... yeah real bright.
we were talking about a 5 hit build setup. with that setup you would think you would be capped acc on most things anyway. But thanks for the input.
Yeah, I just thought the Accuracy Absolution was a decent option if you plan to stack some more Attack. Extra ACC wouldn't hurt for higher-level mobs either. I digress, though.
I'd like to see myself in something like Gradd's set, just with Turban instead of Ace's. IIRC the ACC cap for DRK is 40, so it evens out.
Quote:
My normal drk tp setup uses a plaga and will stay that way till I see what the end trials are gonna be. I'd hate to waste time on a trial that ends up sucking at the end. Not sure yet.
I went with the ACC Scythe because personally it makes up for the gear I don't have (PCC, Fire Bomlet, etc.), as well as gives me other perks. I'll probably replace the swift belt if I ever get a Goading Belt.
Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
Cerberus.Dizzmal said:
Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
Off-topic, but: Absolution with DEX+6 and ACC+16 says hi. Pop an NQ/HQ Pizza and you're set. Yes, I admit to having an Amemet Mantle +1. No, I don't really give a ***.
Cerberus.Dizzmal said:
You would use Abyss cape and bomb core over fire bomblet and Foragers... yeah real bright.
Quote:
My normal drk tp setup uses a plaga and will stay that way till I see what the end trials are gonna be. I'd hate to waste time on a trial that ends up sucking at the end. Not sure yet.
According to FFXIcalc you have capped acc for lv 87 mobs with 357 eva. It should parse well one way or another.
With Plaga I seem to have a pretty big difference with just the dark damage that comes with it. I notice 20-30 damage that is listed as 100% proc rate. I'm also working on a WS scythe( Hey I'm hoping for 10% Guillotine, shoot me) that has pretty close to the base damage as plaga, but the damage difference between the 2 scythes are leaning heavily to the plaga. I still have more testing to do, but it seems that the extra dark damage makes a pretty big difference.
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Should wear sword strap if you're using Plaga scythe, since it's 528 delay. For a 6hit build anyway.
I find sword strap very minimal. with a 528 scythe, Brutal and Raja, With Hasso active it takes 6.4 sec per swing while with sword strap it takes 6.2 sec per swing totaling 38.4 sec to reach 100% tp without sword strap vs 37.2 with. So roughly 1.2 sec total difference between the 2 straps. With that difference becoming more and more insignificant with the more haste you have on. With Hasso,Haste,Double March 19.2sec for no sword strap vs 18.6 with Sword strap. a .6 sec differece
I maybe be a fool, but I do like more of a chance to see double attack on WS and during tping. but yeah that might be my own downfall. I wouldn't fault someone either way.
Sword Strap is equal to 3% haste, if you are arguing that 2% DA beats 3% haste then you are in the wrong.
Haste has increasing returns DA actually has decreasing returns.
As long as its not breaking your X-Hit then sword strap wipes the floor with every other grip w/out even a contest.
Haste has increasing returns DA actually has decreasing returns.
As long as its not breaking your X-Hit then sword strap wipes the floor with every other grip w/out even a contest.
Ehh... well can't really stack -3% delay reduction from the sword strap with haste, since the -delay reduction is applied first, then haste.
But yeah, it is similar to haste since they're both delay reduction. Still, Sword strap does have increasing results like haste, and it IS the best grip if it doesn't break your X-hit build. (If you needed Rose strap for your X-hit build, then Rose strap would be the best option. And if neither sword strap nor Rose strap are applicable, then you would use pole grip.)
Also, double attack is nice;however, in % (percent) increase, double attack has diminishing returns. Adding more DA to your previous DA is less of an increase than adding DA to no DA.
But yeah, it is similar to haste since they're both delay reduction. Still, Sword strap does have increasing results like haste, and it IS the best grip if it doesn't break your X-hit build. (If you needed Rose strap for your X-hit build, then Rose strap would be the best option. And if neither sword strap nor Rose strap are applicable, then you would use pole grip.)
Also, double attack is nice;however, in % (percent) increase, double attack has diminishing returns. Adding more DA to your previous DA is less of an increase than adding DA to no DA.
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Well dizzmal, for one I don't take steroids, comes from good old fashion exercise and old man strength (yeah i'm starting to get it D:). You should try it.
My loss in str/atk I posted way back would be from wsing in the crap you suggested over what i could ws in now. You are correct we are talking about tp build but your effecting my ws's.... and do you know what a 5 hit build is for?. To ws more frequently. So when you gimp my ws's you defeating the purpose of it.
On top of me admitting i'm not finished with it yet... which you failed to read.
Look we can go bickering back and forth but there is no point. Yes your set provides more acc and 1 more haste. No, you can't outparse me. lol. I do it to people like you every day. Your probably a smart kid, so it wouldn't be fair to call you an idiot.... but really its to bad we're not on the same server to do an event together so you can see for yourself. You can get the last word..... This forum is probably your only source of solace so have at it sir.
My loss in str/atk I posted way back would be from wsing in the crap you suggested over what i could ws in now. You are correct we are talking about tp build but your effecting my ws's.... and do you know what a 5 hit build is for?. To ws more frequently. So when you gimp my ws's you defeating the purpose of it.
On top of me admitting i'm not finished with it yet... which you failed to read.
Look we can go bickering back and forth but there is no point. Yes your set provides more acc and 1 more haste. No, you can't outparse me. lol. I do it to people like you every day. Your probably a smart kid, so it wouldn't be fair to call you an idiot.... but really its to bad we're not on the same server to do an event together so you can see for yourself. You can get the last word..... This forum is probably your only source of solace so have at it sir.
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