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 Ragnarok.Hevans
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2013-05-31 14:26:23
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i think lanes do the best counter jungle. if i have my wave pushed to enemy tower mid and the enemy jungler ganks another lane i like to try and take the big wraith just to *** them up a lil bit.
By volkom 2013-05-31 14:27:21
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i take everything when i counter jungle now. Its not their jungle. its yours! >:[
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-05-31 14:32:47
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Jungler supplements the support's wards on Dragon & Baron, and wards their own primary buffs and enemy primary buffs as necessary. Tossing an extra ward in the lanes doesn't hurt either.

That about accurate?
By volkom 2013-05-31 14:33:10
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everyone should buy wards
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 Ragnarok.Hevans
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2013-05-31 14:38:55
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if top lane has the bush warded, hit the tribush. if mid is warded get in by wraiths/red. if bot is warded, get blue.
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2013-05-31 14:39:06
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Really shouldnt kill the whole camp. The non respawns can really put a hurt on them. Kinda why I only invade with champs that do single target burst like eve shen nunu
By volkom 2013-05-31 14:40:00
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doesn't hurt as much as taking jungle buffs
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-31 14:40:18
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As a jungler you buy wards for 1) controlling objective (pink dragon yourself, for example, since you can solo it early you should control it anyway), 2) giving proper jungle vision, which include the control of enemy's jungle, even if you don't take their buffs at the source, you can still kill the jungler based on said vision.

I personally ***the opponent jungle if I know that 1) it's free, period, 2) I can kill the jungler in 1v1 before anyone can reach him.

It's unfortunately very rare to have lane people use said vision to our advantage so I often skip it and focus on my own vision rather than sharing it. However, when people follow, it's such a *** breeze.

I stopped to automatically ward lanes if the guy isn't reliable. I rather have more money to ward/gank properly than waste money on wards that aren't exploited to their fullest.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2013-05-31 16:56:16
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HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEUHUHEUHEUHUEHUEHUHUEHE

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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2013-05-31 18:02:54
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triple kill after first roam bot, quadra after they took our inhib turret as i was pushing top. delicious :D


By volkom 2013-05-31 22:29:52
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gonna do some games if anyone wants to join
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By Fairy.Spence 2013-05-31 23:08:36
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I do :<
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By Bahamut.Serj 2013-05-31 23:16:12
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volkom said: »
worst feeling ever... warding a bush but it doesn't want to go in.

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By Odin.Minefield 2013-05-31 23:18:45
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Just did that yesterday, the feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeels hngghhhh
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By volkom 2013-05-31 23:30:24
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i don't see u online spence
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By Fairy.Spence 2013-05-31 23:39:45
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The sad face is because I don't have a mouse and my internet is garbage
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2013-06-01 10:36:19
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Ragnarok.Hevans said: »
Asura.Lolserj said: »

That and I hate, HATE when my jungler goes into the enemy jungle in soloqueue. They always end up dead
Gurl dont even trip, <------ 100% red steal on every game that I have so far w/o deaths. Though you might have died once or twice when I come to get my red ,but I blame mid for not paying attention to map awareness and pings, BUT I GET YOU AN ASSIST.


Cerberus.Tikal said: »

Since we're on the subject, as a jungler like Sejuani (She happens to be my strongest right now, next to Vi), where is it that I ought to ward? Obviously the enemy jungler is worth consideration, but I never know where to place wards and why. I know where wards OUGHT to be placed, and why, but not when. When do I ward their jungle? Mid? My own buffs? etc.

I tend to ward top lanes a lot, just because they tend to get ganked early on, tend to push and get ganked since its a longer lane to run from. Occasionally warding bot when I see they are doing good , they look like they still need to farm a bit or can, and their river ward is out, pop a ward and keep that lane strong. Warding the outlets of their jungle helps keep both an eye on the jungler and their lanes from potential roaming ganks.

Remember though, if youre not getting ganks(ie kills/assist which is income) and youre not clearing your jungle fast enough, youre not going to be in a position to ward too often either. Then again if thats happening, youre probably already behind.

Being a good jungler is a lot of responsibility, imo both the support and jungler are like the foundations of the team, if they are weak, the team can collapse on itself.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-06-01 16:09:24
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Bahamut.Serj said: »
volkom said: »
worst feeling ever... warding a bush but it doesn't want to go in.

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Scarra has a good playlist, deserves to be watched more.

I never managed to ward the bush the way he tried, same for the river bush. I have seen people do it, but I just never can do it :< Iknowthefeel
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2013-06-01 17:27:50
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Odin.Hitoseijuro said: »
Ragnarok.Hevans said: »
Asura.Lolserj said: »

That and I hate, HATE when my jungler goes into the enemy jungle in soloqueue. They always end up dead
Gurl dont even trip, <------ 100% red steal on every game that I have so far w/o deaths. Though you might have died once or twice when I come to get my red ,but I blame mid for not paying attention to map awareness and pings, BUT I GET YOU AN ASSIST.


calm down boo. it says solo queue not duo.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2013-06-01 19:47:31
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Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Bahamut.Serj said: »
volkom said: »
worst feeling ever... warding a bush but it doesn't want to go in.

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Scarra has a good playlist, deserves to be watched more.

I never managed to ward the bush the way he tried, same for the river bush. I have seen people do it, but I just never can do it :< Iknowthefeel
He's fun to watch because he doesnt take it too seriously.
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By Ultrarichard 2013-06-01 20:23:54
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Get close to the wall, and drop it on top of the sign. It'll go in the bush, I did it not ten minutes ago lol.

He was clicking waaaay too far out.
By volkom 2013-06-01 20:26:08
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he has his items smartcasted. dropping wards into that area is more difficult that way
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By Ultrarichard 2013-06-01 20:26:40
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So are mine lol, I don't see the trouble :(
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By Bahamut.Serj 2013-06-01 20:35:20
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I personally have all my spells/items/summoners on smart cast and put shift + key to normal cast. If I need to ward tricky spots or want to see cast range, just shift cast it. Inverse smart cast normally I guess.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-06-02 00:45:50
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I smart cast everything but items, I have a hard time getting used to smart casting wards.

I'll try a bot game and buy a bunch of wards and I'll try later today, I tried maybe 5 wards once clicking at different spots and couldn't :(

Applied to a 1v1 tournament following the duels with Kujah (same rules), matched against a Platinum V Heimer first round. I entered with Yi, gonna be fun.
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By Odin.Minefield 2013-06-02 01:09:57
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>stop rushing in we said

>stop 1v5ing we said

>stop killing yourself we said

How foolish we were to question the true plot to this monstrosity.
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2013-06-02 12:19:24
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Odin.Minefield said: »
>stop rushing in we said

>stop 1v5ing we said

>stop killing yourself we said

How foolish we were to question the true plot to this monstrosity.
Karma is such a beast in ARAMS, love getting her. I went 90% of a game, with just a catalyst on her and not dying >.>
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-06-02 15:36:23
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Playing drunk makes me realize that making proper plays only rivaled by Rice Paper V is something I have mastered.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-06-03 03:14:25
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Welp, 2-0, advancing in the brackets. The 1v1s we did really helped, Kujah.


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