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 Ramuh.Urial
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By Ramuh.Urial 2012-08-03 08:25:07
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Playing bots I would say look into armor pen because bots ALWAYS buy armor, unlike players.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-08-03 08:54:10
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thats why you get last whisper >:
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 Bismarck.Faelar
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-08-03 09:01:57
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Next question: Flat stat runes better than the "X amount per level" runes?
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-08-03 09:07:48
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for non-MR blues*, usually
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-08-03 12:31:20
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Also, would that chart's path for AP champs (Morgana for example) be decent?
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-08-03 13:52:40
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I looked back three pages and couldn't find a chart. Sorry Fae.

For strict APs, scaling MR blues, AP or Mpen reds, armor or mana/5 yellows, and quints vary from movement speed, AP, Mpen. Hybrids can use Mpen/Apen quints.
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2012-08-03 14:11:24
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I normally go:
red: Mpen
yellow: flat mana regen(I did mana per levels at first for a long time and found out that flats were really so much better for early game when mana was normally an issue)
Blue: AP per level
Quints: flat AP
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-08-03 16:51:12
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
I looked back three pages and couldn't find a chart. Sorry Fae.

For strict APs, scaling MR blues, AP or Mpen reds, armor or mana/5 yellows, and quints vary from movement speed, AP, Mpen. Hybrids can use Mpen/Apen quints.

This one.

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By Ultrarichard 2012-08-03 20:17:31
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I actually have AP/18 for blues, manaregen for yellows and shortly (as I can afford) Mpen for reds. I feel this does me fine. I almost always choose a Dorans to begin with, I don't need early game AP, I need late game, which those blue's will give me. Granted it's not much lol.
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By Fairy.Spence 2012-08-03 20:33:08
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Generally speaking, runes are to give you an early game advantage to snowball. mPen just because it's best in slot, same with AP/lvl glyphs. Quints depends, but usually mRes, AP, or Movement speed. I'd suggest mana regen for yellows unless you play a lot of energy AP's.

Ultra, have you tried starting boots? IMO, best choice in mid since you're going to be trying to avoid skillshots.
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By Ultrarichard 2012-08-03 21:14:01
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I do if it's a particularly fast champion like Ahri, most of the ones I come up against, Cassiopeia, Ryze, karthus ect, I easily outrange and can just poke all day long. If they're getting hits in, I'll buy boots and pots on my first trip back, instead of another dorans or blasting.
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2012-08-03 22:05:17
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Fairy.Spence said: »
Generally speaking, runes are to give you an early game advantage to snowball. mPen just because it's best in slot, same with AP/lvl glyphs. Quints depends, but usually mRes, AP, or Movement speed. I'd suggest mana regen for yellows unless you play a lot of energy AP's.

Ultra, have you tried starting boots? IMO, best choice in mid since you're going to be trying to avoid skillshots.
I use to always take Doran's ring as my first item, I tried boots/pots and never looked back.

The amount of poke, dodging and survivability you can get with boots/pots and being able to get away from ganks early on out do whatever early advantage Doran's ring offers.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-08-03 22:07:33
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that and sustain sustain sustain
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By Ultrarichard 2012-08-03 22:10:15
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Considering I have like twice the range of everybody on Xerath, I'm not *too* concerned, but I do take them sometimes, I'm just rather fond of Dorans first on just about everything lol
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By Asura.Armonia 2012-08-03 22:51:14
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I feel like I'll be the reason Sona will get re-nerfed

P.s. AD Carry Sona is OP
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By Fairy.Spence 2012-08-03 23:17:37
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God I hate people who play this game so *** much.
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By volkom 2012-08-04 01:21:20
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had the axes. got plenty of victims

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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-08-04 01:22:39
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Did a bot game to break in my new buddy and... wow. Can't believe I lost to these at one point.

42/0/5

I plowed through the team like it was nothing.
By volkom 2012-08-04 01:24:51
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god among bots
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pretty good song actually

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By Fenrir.Hanabira 2012-08-04 12:43:42
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do you get a stat bonus or something from having a high spree? i notice unusually high damage
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-08-04 13:03:19
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Playing several matches with my roommate, hop on and gimme a shout if you want to join us. My summoner name is Eretai.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-08-04 13:12:43
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Fenrir.Hanabira said: »
do you get a stat bonus or something from having a high spree? i notice unusually high damage
cuz fed
By volkom 2012-08-04 13:52:00
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Cerberus.Eugene said: »
Fenrir.Hanabira said: »
do you get a stat bonus or something from having a high spree? i notice unusually high damage
cuz fed

there's no stat bonus for having a large killing spree. But usually means if you do have a large killing spree you probably got a decent to a crap ton of gold in which case you can buy those pricey items sooner before anyone else can which allows you to output more damage than whats normally expected at your current level.

Just remember though, if you do go on a massive killing spree. who ever kills you get a huge chunk of gold
By volkom 2012-08-04 22:45:05
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haha yes! finally bronze ranked again for 5v5 solo queue.

probably could've gotten it earlier if i didn't duo queue all the time :3

gained 100 elo today. feels good :3
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-08-04 22:46:56
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volkom said: »
haha yes! finally bronze ranked again for 5v5 solo queue.

probably could've gotten it earlier if i didn't duo queue all the time :3

gained 100 elo today. feels good :3

Woo! Grats!

What elo rating do you start as when you hit lv30? Hit 20 last night and got my rune page setup.
By volkom 2012-08-04 22:59:45
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Bismarck.Faelar said: »
volkom said: »
haha yes! finally bronze ranked again for 5v5 solo queue.

probably could've gotten it earlier if i didn't duo queue all the time :3

gained 100 elo today. feels good :3

Woo! Grats!

What elo rating do you start as when you hit lv30? Hit 20 last night and got my rune page setup.

you start at 1250 once you first start ranked. then it either goes up or down depending on how many games you win/lose
 Bismarck.Faelar
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-08-04 23:01:40
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Knowing me, I'll be at 0 Elo within a week.
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By Ramuh.Urial 2012-08-04 23:17:30
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You see kids, this is what happens when you decide to be trolls and sell all your items at the end of the game.
The other team gets fed and destroys you.
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By volkom 2012-08-04 23:19:24
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?

edit: nvm, uri told me the story.

was lulzy
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