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 Asura.Dajociont
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By Asura.Dajociont 2012-07-26 09:21:19
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it's just a funny guide, check it out for the laughtastic part D:
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By Fairy.Spence 2012-07-26 09:25:44
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He had me at: "While it is true that Taric is classified as a support champ, since when does Riot ever know what the hell they are talking about when it comes to League?"
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-07-26 09:30:49
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Fairy.Spence said: »
I hope you're playing Noc in the jungle, because that's the only place he belongs.

Attempting to learn how actually, i just suck at it atm
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By Fenrir.Tsuji 2012-07-26 10:02:49
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Just curious, why do people actually say that mobafire sucks? And why prefer other sites like solomid or lolpro? I think there are some good guides on mobafire which I personally benefited from. So why do some of you guys think mobafire sucks?
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-07-26 10:06:44
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Made a custom bot game to learn jungling, found a few guides and used the tips and builds they suggested.

Here's the result:


MUCH better. My last game with Nocturne I was 6/7/8.
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By Asura.Dameshi 2012-07-26 10:11:01
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The only problem with doing custom bot games to practice is that custom bots are very weak, weaker than beginner bots.

It's good for getting a feel for how a champ's mechanics work or jungling order, but can't really gauge the kills off of it :/

I've only played Nocturne once, so I can't help with builds or anything, but it looks alright to me :P
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-07-26 10:12:14
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Asura.Dameshi said: »
The only problem with doing custom bot games to practice is that custom bots are very weak, weaker than beginner bots.

It's good for getting a feel for how a champ's mechanics work or jungling order, but can't really gauge the kills off of it :/

I've only played Nocturne once, so I can't help with builds or anything, but it looks alright to me :P

Was primarily to learn jungling. Seems fun, I'll try it again later in a normal bot game.
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By Fairy.Spence 2012-07-26 10:14:00
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Most of the top rated guides aren't very good. They're based on fun builds rather than optimal builds.

There are also a ton of just complete crap guides. Usually all on Solomid are at least viable.


Some of the advice I see in guides makes me so sad :(
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By Asura.Dameshi 2012-07-26 10:14:21
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The biggest thing about jungling is getting a feel of when and where to gank. Also counter jungling, but that's later, and depends on your champ as well.
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By Asura.Dameshi 2012-07-26 10:17:36
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Fairy.Spence said: »
Most of the top rated guides aren't very good. They're based on fun builds rather than optimal builds.

There are also a ton of just complete crap guides. Usually all on Solomid are at least viable.


Some of the advice I see in guides makes me so sad :(
AD Morde because his Q scales off AD and AP!
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By Bismarck.Misao 2012-07-26 10:21:04
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wtb riven guide :/
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2012-07-26 10:39:30
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Bismarck.Misao said: »
wtb riven guide :/
Screw a guide. Just listen to this song and rape.
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By Peldin 2012-07-26 10:43:46
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Just curious, why do people actually say that mobafire sucks? And why prefer other sites like solomid or lolpro? I think there are some good guides on mobafire which I personally benefited from. So why do some of you guys think mobafire sucks?
Guides are a terrible way for you to learn LoL in general. They can become outdated in as little as two weeks. A lot of guides are written by noobs and usually, only noobs read them. I don't use the word "noob" to be insulting or derogatory to anyone here. What I mean is, you will never find people at 1800+ rating who read guides. Probably not even 1500+.
If you really want to improve your game, the best way to do it is to watch streams of high-tier players. Scarra is one of the best to watch in my opinion for learning purposes because he will explain why he gets certain items or why a team fight went the way it did.
The second best way is to record your own games and analyze your mistakes. Although, this is usually for more experienced players who understand competitive play very well.
One last bit of advice - play every champion at least 5 times. You may not like some champion play styles. You may think you know some champions without ever playing them. But trust me, there is a LOT of knowledge you can gain from playing the champions yourself. Knowing cooldown timers and passives can make a HUGE difference in the way you lane against someone, and laning is often the biggest determination of the outcome of the game.
Oh and one last thing... every time you lose or win, no matter why, think about what you could've done better. Nobody ever plays a perfect game. Even if they go 30-0, there are still mistakes made. You may lose because a teammate trolled. There are still things you could have done better.

TLDR - guides are really for beginner players. Wanna get better? Watch streams.
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-07-26 11:48:23
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Nocturne Jungle Bot Test Run.

Results:
 Asura.Dajociont
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By Asura.Dajociont 2012-07-26 11:57:00
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Bismarck.Misao said: »
wtb riven guide :/

riven guide:

WHY AM I SO GOOD

IT MUST BE THIS SWORD

IT'S MAGICAL

RQQQWQQQWQWQQQWQQQWQQQWQQQWQQQWQQQWQQQWQQQQQQQQQWQQQQQWQQQQQWQQQQQQWQQQQQWQQQWQWQWQWQWQWQ

E IS FOR BEING SCARED GIRLY TIMES
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By Caitsith.Raolin 2012-07-26 11:59:22
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Bismarck.Misao said: »
wtb riven guide :/
http://solomid.net/guides.php?g=16914
That's the Riven guide I used. I think it's pretty good, it gives an idea about how to play Riven against a lot of top champs. I could be wrong about how good it is though, I just reached 30 and I am still not very good at LoL :/
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-07-26 12:07:40
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You guys got me wanting to try Riven, so I hopped on the PBE where I own her and am now playing a game with her.

Currently 12/1/2 11 minutes into the game.

EDIT: Match over.

First time Riven.



Pentakill at the end.
Yes yes clarity, blah blah, didnt know how she worked.
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2012-07-26 12:25:28
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i really think LoL should have it's own subforum ._.
 Bismarck.Faelar
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-07-26 12:41:01
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Ragnarok.Hevans said: »
i really think LoL should have it's own subforum ._.

That would make things easier, yeah.

People could make threads about specific champions and discuss them.
By volkom 2012-07-26 12:54:51
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you won't have a jungle to jungle in if i counter jungled you >:[
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By Ramuh.Urial 2012-07-26 13:03:13
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Asura.Dajociont said: »
Bismarck.Misao said: »
wtb riven guide :/

riven guide:

WHY AM I SO GOOD

IT MUST BE THIS SWORD

IT'S MAGICAL

RQQQWQQQWQWQQQWQQQWQQQWQQQWQQQWQQQWQQQWQQQQQQQQQWQQQQQWQQQQQWQQQQQQWQQQQQWQQQWQWQWQWQWQWQ

E IS FOR BEING SCARED GIRLY TIMES
Sounds about right, maybe some more Q.
xD
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2012-07-26 14:59:42
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Fairy.Ghaleon said: »
Bismarck.Faelar said: »
Been reading a lot of Champion's lore lately; I'm interested in a compiled list of who is from where according to backgrounds, if anyone can provide something like this I'll give you mad [+]'s.

:D :D :D

hey Faelar, i added you btw! Name is MisterRyu

if you could update the OP with my name too would greatly appreciate it :D

QQ i got ignoared lol. :(
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By Siren.Stiklelf 2012-07-26 15:13:33
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I don't think enough people play LoL on the forums to have a sub forum about it :O
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By Fenrir.Tsuji 2012-07-26 15:18:30
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volkom said: »
you won't have a jungle to jungle in if i counter jungled you >:[
Sounds like a challenge!
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-07-26 15:56:18
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Siren.Stiklelf said: »
I don't think enough people play LoL on the forums to have a sub forum about it :O

Clearly you overlooked the list in the OP!
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By Siren.Stiklelf 2012-07-26 16:17:22
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I guess you're right, I've only looked at the list when I was first added.

But I don't see many people posting in here. Seems to be the same about 5 people.
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By Bismarck.Misao 2012-07-26 16:18:29
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yawn
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-07-26 16:44:36
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Ramuh.Urial said: »
Asura.Dajociont said: »
Bismarck.Misao said: »
wtb riven guide :/

riven guide:

WHY AM I SO GOOD

IT MUST BE THIS SWORD

IT'S MAGICAL

RQQQWQQQWQWQQQWQQQWQQQWQQQWQQQWQQQWQQQWQQQQQQQQQWQQQQQWQQQQQWQQQQQQWQQQQQWQQQWQWQWQWQWQWQ

E IS FOR BEING SCARED GIRLY TIMES
Sounds about right, maybe some more Q.
xD

you forgot the part about how to properly smack your head on the keyboard
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-07-26 16:56:50
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Peldin said: »
Quote:
Just curious, why do people actually say that mobafire sucks? And why prefer other sites like solomid or lolpro? I think there are some good guides on mobafire which I personally benefited from. So why do some of you guys think mobafire sucks?
Guides are a terrible way for you to learn LoL in general. They can become outdated in as little as two weeks. A lot of guides are written by noobs and usually, only noobs read them. I don't use the word "noob" to be insulting or derogatory to anyone here. What I mean is, you will never find people at 1800+ rating who read guides. Probably not even 1500+.
If you really want to improve your game, the best way to do it is to watch streams of high-tier players. Scarra is one of the best to watch in my opinion for learning purposes because he will explain why he gets certain items or why a team fight went the way it did.
The second best way is to record your own games and analyze your mistakes. Although, this is usually for more experienced players who understand competitive play very well.
One last bit of advice - play every champion at least 5 times. You may not like some champion play styles. You may think you know some champions without ever playing them. But trust me, there is a LOT of knowledge you can gain from playing the champions yourself. Knowing cooldown timers and passives can make a HUGE difference in the way you lane against someone, and laning is often the biggest determination of the outcome of the game.
Oh and one last thing... every time you lose or win, no matter why, think about what you could've done better. Nobody ever plays a perfect game. Even if they go 30-0, there are still mistakes made. You may lose because a teammate trolled. There are still things you could have done better.

TLDR - guides are really for beginner players. Wanna get better? Watch streams.

I don't know why you say any of this, except the streams part.
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