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 Bismarck.Aryden
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By Bismarck.Aryden 2010-02-28 19:37:39
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Pld's with convert, refresh, and a host of other new spells and abilities... sounds like a plan. oh yeah, haste too...
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By Hades.Stefanos 2010-02-28 19:39:05
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Prepare to see testimonials saying 'Soloable by a level 99 PLD/RDM' for everything.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-02-28 19:41:45
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The spells could be less potent, who knows.
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By Hades.Stefanos 2010-02-28 19:46:54
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
The spells could be less potent, who knows.

I fail to see your point. Even if they're less potent, they add a lot to a PLD's survival and DoT.
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By Alexander.Nepharite 2010-02-28 19:51:49
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i think someone just broke my game =/
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By Fenrir.Jerlow 2010-02-28 20:11:18
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They are not going to allow certain spells and abilities to be used when a job is subbed.
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By Garuda.Pastor 2010-02-28 20:16:08
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This is my take on the highlight from the news so far...

http://www.ffxiah.com/screenshots.php?id=36556
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By Bismarck.Aryden 2010-02-28 20:51:47
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They are not going to allow certain spells and abilities to be used when a job is subbed.




Yes you will get convert...
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By Sylph.Oddin 2010-02-28 20:55:04
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Most likely what will happen is they'll nerf job abilities when they're subbed. They've been doing this since day one so this shouldn't come as a surprise. Convert will be a half convert most likely or something of that nature. I can't think of any magic that gets nerfed aside from Utsusemi: Ni so Refresh may or may not end up being the same.
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By Siren.Talonn 2010-02-28 21:02:40
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Sylph.Oddin said:
Most likely what will happen is they'll nerf job abilities when they're subbed. They've been doing this since day one so this shouldn't come as a surprise. Convert will be a half convert most likely or something of that nature. I can't think of any magic that gets nerfed aside from Utsusemi: Ni so Refresh may or may not end up being the same.
your right, they did say that everything that will be opened on the new subjobs will be compensated for since allowing the full use of these JAs will ruin the game dynamics. Do not expect to see 1/2 the things that have been mentioned here, sorry for breaking this, but it is what they said at the event.
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By Bismarck.Aryden 2010-03-01 00:42:27
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regardless of whether they nerf it or not, it still adds to the useability of subs that we are already using, and making it better for what we do.

1 example: Pld/Nin + Yonin. Yes you get -20 acc, but it also means a 20% boost to enmity in addition to increasing lolevasion and decreasing target's critical hit rate.

in addition to spells such as, haste and refresh, benefits are benefits even if they are nerfed.
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By Seraph.Chasuro 2010-03-01 00:46:43
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PLD/RDM is already a great combo. No matter how much they nerf the abilities that are rdm38+, it is still going to be better than it is now. End of story.
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By Fairy.Rorrick 2010-03-01 23:07:11
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Announcement screenshots are not indicative of anything. They showed SMNs wielding Scythes and Gambisons with STR+5 DEX+5, but none of that ever happened.

Either way, /DNC and Haste Samba say hi.
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By Fenrir.Parak 2010-03-01 23:09:01
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SAM/DNC Flourish II. Convert finishing moves to TP. W...T...F...
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By Leviathan.Solare 2010-03-03 04:09:33
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I just hope we get a higher tier Shell... lol.
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By Remora.Llianon 2010-03-03 05:00:23
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i know it gonna be great and and all new way to play but...
peeps were spending impossible to jauge time going merit to get paralyze II or other things...and u'll have a scroll lvl 85 paralyze III...so paralyze II u fully merited spent tons of time on it is now useless...
Or maybe they'll make a scroll of paralyze II and that gonna piss some peeps a lot thinking they spent hours for a thing they could have @ AH for like 20 or 30K
Same for blms with AM2 if they make AM3 (do u still use AM 1 as blm 75?)
i don't even think about /ja merited if they make it available @ a certain lvl.
well tons of questions...god SE got all the answers but til then does it still worth going merit? lol
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By Phoenix.Kristiania 2010-03-03 05:03:20
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Fenrir.Parak said:
SAM/DNC Flourish II. Convert finishing moves to TP. W...T...F...

So... you would spend 50% TP to get 60% TP? Cool story bro.
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By LadiciusPLD 2010-03-07 13:17:41
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Has anyone considered the idea that the new lvl cap of 99 would only apply in abyss? Thus leaving everything ever accomplished so far still valid in its own world.
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By Hades.Tidis 2010-03-07 13:20:52
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wow they show a whm using convert and that automatically means everyone gets convert?

Who says they're even subbing rdm? Maybe they'll let whm get Convert at those later levels.

Convert would break PLD so I reckon they have something planned, if everyone can see the obvious, so can they.
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By Caitsith.Neonracer 2010-03-07 13:27:49
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Thats why I said that Blu with AutoRefresh and maybe Auto Refresh II with relic body adds Refresh Effect and with Convert, Blu will have a nice supply of MP Pool or a unlimited supply of.

Blu will go nicely with red!
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-03-07 13:41:22
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Where did Auto-Refresh II come from o.O;
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By Caitsith.Neonracer 2010-03-07 13:57:18
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Ramuh.Haseyo said:
Where did Auto-Refresh II come from o.O;


Was just making it up dood.. XD If it was a trait for blues i was dreaming of, that's where it came from.

LOL always nice to dream.
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By Shiva.Dwyte 2010-03-07 13:58:20
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Auto refresh from JT, n "auto refresh II" while blu relic body on? Lol
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-03-07 13:59:04
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A perma 2tic+ without gear be ridiculous, lol. Blu would be a monstrosity.
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By Unicorn.Nymphadora 2010-03-07 14:10:25
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Fenrir.Parak said:
SAM/DNC Flourish II. Convert finishing moves to TP. W...T...F...

Ahahahahah!~
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-03-07 14:43:45
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Unicorn.Nymphadora said:
Fenrir.Parak said:
SAM/DNC Flourish II. Convert finishing moves to TP. W...T...F...
Ahahahahah!~

Well it would be nice in campaign battle.
Using that TP to lower Acc or Def, then getting it back.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2010-03-07 15:10:07
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sam/dnc will get tons of new things

looking at dnc sub

you get a natural accuracy bonus, which is +10

Haste Samba- 5% JA haste, looks badass

Violent flourish- woo sam now has a stun besides blade bash

Reverse Flourish- yeah you won't gain tp due to step giving
single finishing moves. But this can be awesome for a zerg situation maybe? store up 5 finishing moves beforehand and when you fight whatever it is, sekkanoki, ws ws, RF, ws? lmao then meditate, 2hr, iwing

Subtle Blow II- 10% tp reduction is nice >.>

Stutter Step- yay now we can help out mages every once in a while

not to mention evasion bonus II and resist slow, not much but its something
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By Pandemonium.Knightofdragons 2010-03-07 15:13:02
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They may let us convert our merits into the Newer Tier merits, or our merits change as We Reach sertain levels, You reach Level 99 and you automatically have full merited Para III, thow thats jst a theory ;P
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By Asura.Draginhikari 2010-03-07 20:27:57
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LadiciusPLD said:
Has anyone considered the idea that the new lvl cap of 99 would only apply in abyss? Thus leaving everything ever accomplished so far still valid in its own world.

I don't know that sounds fairly unlikely, what the point of have a new level cap that is only used only in the new areas.
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