Ramuh.Citag said:
Wednesdays suck
FFXI LGBT Community, Who Are You?
FFXI LGBT Community, who are you?
Yes they do, Dynamis, then Salvage and/or Sky, why do they suck for you?
Asura.Shayka said:
Ramuh.Citag said:
Wednesdays suck
Its my friday at work so this day always seems to go the slowest.
Ramuh.Citag said:
Asura.Shayka said:
Ramuh.Citag said:
Wednesdays suck
Its my friday at work so this day always seems to go the slowest.
Asura.Shayka said:
Ramuh.Citag said:
Asura.Shayka said:
Ramuh.Citag said:
Wednesdays suck
Haste can I have it?
Cerberus.Radaghast said:
I have no issue with gay people. But I can promise that if I made a "who else is white that plays ffxi" or "who else is straight" people would assume the same stance that I am now, if not beyond. My comment wasn't anti-gay, it was anti-stupid. As you stated, this is a forum. With which I'm allowed to express my opinion, as well as they are theirs. I wasn't insulting. I said it *the thread* was stupid. That's not an insult.
... and no.. it's "stupid" because it shouldn't matter if someone is gay, or not gay when playing a game. Furthermore using your sexual orientation as some kind of guideline for a club, seems rather silly to me. Not to mention counter-productive, and asinine.
... and no.. it's "stupid" because it shouldn't matter if someone is gay, or not gay when playing a game. Furthermore using your sexual orientation as some kind of guideline for a club, seems rather silly to me. Not to mention counter-productive, and asinine.
Except you do make a "who else is straight" thread. You do it every day. All of Final Fantasy 11, and arguably all of gamer culture, is that. Join any linkshell in FF, or even just scan these very forums, and what do you see? Conversation after conversation about women. Or bouncy animated avatars of boobs. Or women flashing skin. Repetitive, non-stop, crude and tired jokes about sex. It's arguably half the conversational content of the entire damn game.
And guess what? That's people putting their sexuality on display. I'm not gay myself, but I can easily imagine that to a gay guy, the ceaseless oversexed chatter about women and bouncing breast avatars is just as "counter-productive and asinine" as you find this thread. Yet most of them don't complain, and they certainly don't swoop self-importantly into others' conversations and tell them they're "asinine" for talking about being straight.
Because to them, it doesn't matter if the people around them are straight. However, it seems to me that it does matter to you if the people around you are gay, otherwise you wouldn't have felt the need to butt into the thread.
We already had "who's black" and "who's straight" threads just like this one. We had to eventually trash them because people couldn't behave themselves, and descended into profanity, underage porn, and racism. So far, this thread has been remarkably well-behaved by comparison. So what does that tell you?
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Cerberus.Radaghast said:
Ramuh.Rustytiger said:
"This thread is about as stupid as a "Straight community, who are you?" thread. Who cares what your orientation is? Is it so important that it needs to be noted? What amazes me is the huge double standard most gays hold. You ask not to be treated any differently than anyone else, yet post nonsense threads like this. Please." Ok, so its "stupid" because someone wants to make a thread within a community just to see the number of gay gamers out there that play ffxi? This is no different than minorities who set up communities in a city, town or whatever. It isn't like people are doing this just to generate smut like on the playonline chatrooms back in the day, which were quite funny. In addition we're all on forums; forums are designed for people to make posts of any kind, given limits or not. Put simply this thread is all about a "I'm gay, who is out there too that's gay, I wanna say hi". Nothing more. We're not out to start a GLBT revolution linkshell having some sort of dat blinking various colors, jokingly speaking.
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Ramuh.Citag said:
Asura.Shayka said:
Ramuh.Citag said:
Asura.Shayka said:
Ramuh.Citag said:
Wednesdays suck
Haste can I have it?
Hope that helps! lol
Jaerik always makes his point! No wonder my respect lvl for him is always capped. I play ffxi too much..
Asura.Saikotic said:
Your claim would make sense - IF this was some crazy gay pride thread. And it's not. It's a chit chatty 'hey nice to meet you' thread. Is that so wrong? It's basicly the same thing as a game convention or something, this is just a place to talk and meet others that feel the same or share common interest. So shoo fly~
Awww I wanted a crazy gay pride thread. . .only joking, but crazy {can i have it?}
Fairy.Evanthegai said:
WOOT hot damn 1/5 Herder's subligar ^^
Took me like 25 days of farming to get mine.
Took 1 minute to realise SMN AF legs are stronger.
Took 1 second to quit leveling it.
Asura.Shayka said:
Yes they do, Dynamis, then Salvage and/or Sky, why do they suck for you?
Asura.Saikotic said:
Cerberus.Radaghast said:
Ramuh.Rustytiger said:
"This thread is about as stupid as a "Straight community, who are you?" thread. Who cares what your orientation is? Is it so important that it needs to be noted? What amazes me is the huge double standard most gays hold. You ask not to be treated any differently than anyone else, yet post nonsense threads like this. Please." Ok, so its "stupid" because someone wants to make a thread within a community just to see the number of gay gamers out there that play ffxi? This is no different than minorities who set up communities in a city, town or whatever. It isn't like people are doing this just to generate smut like on the playonline chatrooms back in the day, which were quite funny. In addition we're all on forums; forums are designed for people to make posts of any kind, given limits or not. Put simply this thread is all about a "I'm gay, who is out there too that's gay, I wanna say hi". Nothing more. We're not out to start a GLBT revolution linkshell having some sort of dat blinking various colors, jokingly speaking.
Well the fact your naming this thread as a gay community and encouraging people to come out the closet FF style lol you are creating a minority group which appears to be only inviting gays so you have no right to trash this guy. Why not just call it FFXI community, he is right it may aswell be a gay pride community, I really don't get why you have to try and stamp your sexual orientation all over everybody else and force us to support you like its normal.
Asura.Shayka said:
Ramuh.Citag said:
Wednesdays suck
I'm sick and I think I broke my toe. So I'll be hear all day...
Sylph.Sindri said:
Asura.Shayka said:
Ramuh.Citag said:
Wednesdays suck
I'm sick and I think I broke my toe. So I'll be hear all day...
Ramuh.Sagittario said:
Asura.Saikotic said:
Cerberus.Radaghast said:
Ramuh.Rustytiger said:
"This thread is about as stupid as a "Straight community, who are you?" thread. Who cares what your orientation is? Is it so important that it needs to be noted? What amazes me is the huge double standard most gays hold. You ask not to be treated any differently than anyone else, yet post nonsense threads like this. Please." Ok, so its "stupid" because someone wants to make a thread within a community just to see the number of gay gamers out there that play ffxi? This is no different than minorities who set up communities in a city, town or whatever. It isn't like people are doing this just to generate smut like on the playonline chatrooms back in the day, which were quite funny. In addition we're all on forums; forums are designed for people to make posts of any kind, given limits or not. Put simply this thread is all about a "I'm gay, who is out there too that's gay, I wanna say hi". Nothing more. We're not out to start a GLBT revolution linkshell having some sort of dat blinking various colors, jokingly speaking.
Well the fact your naming this thread as a gay community and encouraging people to come out the closet FF style lol you are creating a minority group which appears to be only inviting gays so you have no right to trash this guy. Why not just call it FFXI community, he is right it may aswell be a gay pride community, I really don't get why you have to try and stamp your sexual orientation all over everybody else and force us to support you like its normal.
Everybody is welcome to post, I'm not gay but I like the people here. They are interesting, fun to talk to and they don't pretend to not care about someone's lifestyle choice and try to stifle it anyways. That was a shot, I'm pretty sterotypically normal. Seriously though why does it matter to you? I sincerely doubt anyone would come out of the closet for this thread, but I think the reason they labeled it gay community is so they had a safe place (which you're clearly attempting to destroy) to talk without being discriminated.
Ramuh.Sagittario said:
Asura.Saikotic said:
Cerberus.Radaghast said:
Ramuh.Rustytiger said:
"This thread is about as stupid as a "Straight community, who are you?" thread. Who cares what your orientation is? Is it so important that it needs to be noted? What amazes me is the huge double standard most gays hold. You ask not to be treated any differently than anyone else, yet post nonsense threads like this. Please." Ok, so its "stupid" because someone wants to make a thread within a community just to see the number of gay gamers out there that play ffxi? This is no different than minorities who set up communities in a city, town or whatever. It isn't like people are doing this just to generate smut like on the playonline chatrooms back in the day, which were quite funny. In addition we're all on forums; forums are designed for people to make posts of any kind, given limits or not. Put simply this thread is all about a "I'm gay, who is out there too that's gay, I wanna say hi". Nothing more. We're not out to start a GLBT revolution linkshell having some sort of dat blinking various colors, jokingly speaking.
Well the fact your naming this thread as a gay community and encouraging people to come out the closet FF style lol you are creating a minority group which appears to be only inviting gays so you have no right to trash this guy. Why not just call it FFXI community, he is right it may aswell be a gay pride community, I really don't get why you have to try and stamp your sexual orientation all over everybody else and force us to support you like its normal.
I don't see anyone here asking for your support, actually. I'm not gay myself but I find it nice to sit here and have an interesting conversation with these guys. I also don't feel like I wouldn't be welcome to post and chat just because I'm not. So whats your deal? If a group of like minded people want to have a conversation, and you don't agree, don't read it. Don't post.
Odin.Oldive said:
Ramuh.Sagittario said:
Asura.Saikotic said:
Cerberus.Radaghast said:
Ramuh.Rustytiger said:
"This thread is about as stupid as a "Straight community, who are you?" thread. Who cares what your orientation is? Is it so important that it needs to be noted? What amazes me is the huge double standard most gays hold. You ask not to be treated any differently than anyone else, yet post nonsense threads like this. Please." Ok, so its "stupid" because someone wants to make a thread within a community just to see the number of gay gamers out there that play ffxi? This is no different than minorities who set up communities in a city, town or whatever. It isn't like people are doing this just to generate smut like on the playonline chatrooms back in the day, which were quite funny. In addition we're all on forums; forums are designed for people to make posts of any kind, given limits or not. Put simply this thread is all about a "I'm gay, who is out there too that's gay, I wanna say hi". Nothing more. We're not out to start a GLBT revolution linkshell having some sort of dat blinking various colors, jokingly speaking.
Good morning/afternoon, by the way.
*waves* Sorry just was reading this whole entire post and it made me smile. Nice to see friendly open people :3. I have a few gay/lesbian friends on Shiva and I adore them greatly. And have been around to see some people bash them for being so open. Oh and Gimmie...your icon is very eye catching. Even for me being straight I sat there for awhile watching it XD. So hows everyone doing ^^?
Asura.Saikotic said:
Asura.Shayka said:
Yes they do, Dynamis, then Salvage and/or Sky, why do they suck for you?
Ramuh.Sagittario said:
Well the fact your naming this thread as a gay community and encouraging people to come out the closet FF style lol you are creating a minority group which appears to be only inviting gays so you have no right to trash this guy. Why not just call it FFXI community, he is right it may aswell be a gay pride community, I really don't get why you have to try and stamp your sexual orientation all over everybody else and force us to support you like its normal.
If you aren't gay or bi, it's silly to say that. For some people, in this thread or wherever, it's nice to meet others and feel more comfortable about our orientation. Because society is so disgusted and refusing to accept this, what choice to we have sometimes but to group together? If none of you even give it a second thought. So suggesting it's just an FFXI community thread completely defeats the purpose of socializing for this reason. I do not see anyone trying to " stamp your sexual orientation all over everybody else", I see people thaat happen to be gay socializing. And for you to say "and force us to support you like its normal." you contribute to the reason gays are segregated as you *** at us for making a thread like this.
Someone always has to come in and try to ruin a good thread.
Shiva.Nindo said:
So hows everyone doing ^^?
Shiva.Nindo said:
*waves* Sorry just was reading this whole entire post and it made me smile. Nice to see friendly open people :3. I have a few gay/lesbian friends on Shiva and I adore them greatly. And have been around to see some people bash them for being so open. Oh and Gimmie...your icon is very eye catching. Even for me being straight I sat there for awhile watching it XD. So hows everyone doing ^^?
Oh and Oldive you officially rock.
They're like parasites. They're ugly, smell bad and won't go away so let's just ignore em.
But yeah, I'm sick, hurt (broke?) my toe, and my brother Ran away after an epic fight with my mom last night, still hasn't come home so she keeps calling me to ask if he's dead -.-
But yeah, I'm sick, hurt (broke?) my toe, and my brother Ran away after an epic fight with my mom last night, still hasn't come home so she keeps calling me to ask if he's dead -.-
Sylph.Sindri said:
They're like parasites. They're ugly, smell bad and won't go away so let's just ignore em.
But yeah, I'm sick, hurt (broke?) my toe, and my brother Ran away after an epic fight with my mom last night, still hasn't come home so she keeps calling me to ask if he's dead -.-
But yeah, I'm sick, hurt (broke?) my toe, and my brother Ran away after an epic fight with my mom last night, still hasn't come home so she keeps calling me to ask if he's dead -.-
Thanks for the compliment, Shay!
I'm also supposed to be campaigning to finish THF, since I can't find parties. But I started wailing on things on PLD, now. Lv 14. Woo!
I'm also supposed to be campaigning to finish THF, since I can't find parties. But I started wailing on things on PLD, now. Lv 14. Woo!
Odin.Oldive said:
Ramuh.Sagittario said:
Asura.Saikotic said:
Cerberus.Radaghast said:
Ramuh.Rustytiger said:
"This thread is about as stupid as a "Straight community, who are you?" thread. Who cares what your orientation is? Is it so important that it needs to be noted? What amazes me is the huge double standard most gays hold. You ask not to be treated any differently than anyone else, yet post nonsense threads like this. Please." Ok, so its "stupid" because someone wants to make a thread within a community just to see the number of gay gamers out there that play ffxi? This is no different than minorities who set up communities in a city, town or whatever. It isn't like people are doing this just to generate smut like on the playonline chatrooms back in the day, which were quite funny. In addition we're all on forums; forums are designed for people to make posts of any kind, given limits or not. Put simply this thread is all about a "I'm gay, who is out there too that's gay, I wanna say hi". Nothing more. We're not out to start a GLBT revolution linkshell having some sort of dat blinking various colors, jokingly speaking.
Well the fact your naming this thread as a gay community and encouraging people to come out the closet FF style lol you are creating a minority group which appears to be only inviting gays so you have no right to trash this guy. Why not just call it FFXI community, he is right it may aswell be a gay pride community, I really don't get why you have to try and stamp your sexual orientation all over everybody else and force us to support you like its normal.
I don't see anyone here asking for your support, actually. I'm not gay myself but I find it nice to sit here and have an interesting conversation with these guys. I also don't feel like I wouldn't be welcome to post and chat just because I'm not. So whats your deal? If a group of like minded people want to have a conversation, and you don't agree, don't read it. Don't post.
Asura.Shayka said:
Sylph.Sindri said:
They're like parasites. They're ugly, smell bad and won't go away so let's just ignore em.
But yeah, I'm sick, hurt (broke?) my toe, and my brother Ran away after an epic fight with my mom last night, still hasn't come home so she keeps calling me to ask if he's dead -.-
But yeah, I'm sick, hurt (broke?) my toe, and my brother Ran away after an epic fight with my mom last night, still hasn't come home so she keeps calling me to ask if he's dead -.-
Was walking down the stairs and stubbed it on the stair somehow, woulda fallen if I didn't have my hand on the railing.
Sylph.Sindri said:
Asura.Shayka said:
Sylph.Sindri said:
They're like parasites. They're ugly, smell bad and won't go away so let's just ignore em.
But yeah, I'm sick, hurt (broke?) my toe, and my brother Ran away after an epic fight with my mom last night, still hasn't come home so she keeps calling me to ask if he's dead -.-
But yeah, I'm sick, hurt (broke?) my toe, and my brother Ran away after an epic fight with my mom last night, still hasn't come home so she keeps calling me to ask if he's dead -.-
Was walking down the stairs and stubbed it on the stair somehow, woulda fallen if I didn't have my hand on the railing.
That's awful. I sure hope everything turns out all right.
I'm not feeling well either, we can share soup!
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