wtf
made me make an error twice...
Obama Being Stupid Again
Obama being stupid again
as for people saying obama is pushing us more in debt...
Americas been in debt since the 1900 maybe even before that. wars cause the debt to be increased by exorbitant amounts. being in debt so long has increased it soo much that now people are actually starting to care lol. as for a side note... i cant speak about any other war besides "war on iraq" but as this war was being held ALOT, ALOOOT of companies were gaining profit within the billions. many of these construction companies were stealing from tax payer dollers by building something half *** or doing little as possible or maybe nothing at all. war is genrally held for the rich or "ones in power" to get more money while the poor "working class" remain poor. that picture that says "Dont steal, the goverment hates competition" is sad but so true.
there was this online movie i once saw (forgot name) about religion/goverment and how corroput they both were. if someone knows the name i would personally like to know so i can save link to my computer.
Edit: just remembered "Zeitgeist The Movie"
Americas been in debt since the 1900 maybe even before that. wars cause the debt to be increased by exorbitant amounts. being in debt so long has increased it soo much that now people are actually starting to care lol. as for a side note... i cant speak about any other war besides "war on iraq" but as this war was being held ALOT, ALOOOT of companies were gaining profit within the billions. many of these construction companies were stealing from tax payer dollers by building something half *** or doing little as possible or maybe nothing at all. war is genrally held for the rich or "ones in power" to get more money while the poor "working class" remain poor. that picture that says "Dont steal, the goverment hates competition" is sad but so true.
there was this online movie i once saw (forgot name) about religion/goverment and how corroput they both were. if someone knows the name i would personally like to know so i can save link to my computer.
Edit: just remembered "Zeitgeist The Movie"
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Phoenix.Mikumaru said:
all of you points are valid and i respect them , except the bold portion . while this is your opinion and i respect that , this statement is either kinda dumb or youre just young (like maybe this was first election or something close) . See a long long time ago there was this election , see , and no matter who you voted for you lost . The reason you lost is because your vote didnt count , it still doesnt count . I am of course referencing to the election of 2000 . The years events , especially those that caused the Kor to create this thread in the first place , are proof positive that the US government DOESNT *** CARE WHAT YOU THINK .
and btw even tho i havent voted since the 2000 election when it was proven to me that Government will do as it pleases i can *** *** all i want and do you know why my friend ? Taxes . See no matter if i vote or note , who i vote for , what ever , i have to pay for all this *** . So , since i foot the bill , i can piss up a storm .
I dont have to pretend that i have a say . I know the truth . The sooner people accept this , the sooner we can move on . This refusal to accept this fact could possibly be causing the current state . If we just relent , maybe big brother will let the good times resume .
And if you wanna flame on my point , just know that the Electoral College Exists and is very real . Compare the College votes to popular votes over the past , i dunno 3 or 4 elections and you will see my point .
Perhaps if the Senators , President , and Congress had to actually LIVE under the laws and systems they enact and create , maybe i wouldnt have had to move back in with my parents toting 2 Children , 3 cats , and a Dog cuz i cant afford Rent anymore from myriad reasons ranging from the Economy (try raising a kid or 2 on $300 a week) to Health care (i'd bring home $450 , but $150 a week to pay for that shitty insurance) .Must be nice to do nothing and take home 5 or 6 figures a year .
and btw even tho i havent voted since the 2000 election when it was proven to me that Government will do as it pleases i can *** *** all i want and do you know why my friend ? Taxes . See no matter if i vote or note , who i vote for , what ever , i have to pay for all this *** . So , since i foot the bill , i can piss up a storm .
I dont have to pretend that i have a say . I know the truth . The sooner people accept this , the sooner we can move on . This refusal to accept this fact could possibly be causing the current state . If we just relent , maybe big brother will let the good times resume .
And if you wanna flame on my point , just know that the Electoral College Exists and is very real . Compare the College votes to popular votes over the past , i dunno 3 or 4 elections and you will see my point .
Perhaps if the Senators , President , and Congress had to actually LIVE under the laws and systems they enact and create , maybe i wouldnt have had to move back in with my parents toting 2 Children , 3 cats , and a Dog cuz i cant afford Rent anymore from myriad reasons ranging from the Economy (try raising a kid or 2 on $300 a week) to Health care (i'd bring home $450 , but $150 a week to pay for that shitty insurance) .Must be nice to do nothing and take home 5 or 6 figures a year .
I agree that no one is above the law. I believe that politicians who commit acts of crime should be punished under the law.
And I do see your point about the 2000 election. But there's also how many other elections to compare it to?
There's also plenty of people who only vote once every 4 years, and that's for the Presidential election. They don't get off their *** to vote for their township, county, or state governments. They think that ONCE every 4 years is good enough.
Think of the United States government as a Christmas tree. The bottom is big and comprised of many branches stemming off it's trunk. Every level of the tree has less branches, eventually until you get to the very top.
The President is at the top. Under him is his administration. Under his administration is the Senate. Under the Senate is the House. Do you see where I'm going with this?
Think of it this way: If every person in the United States stood up and said "Well, my vote doesn't count for ***, so I'm not going to vote," what do you think would happen to this country? We've already proven time and time again we can't run ourselves. We've become so reliant on what the government does for us, we don't even bother to sit back and think what we can do to make our government better. The government only has as much power as its people are willing to give them, and given the fact we have *** on the books like The Patriot Act, it proves that people are willing to give up fundamental rights as written in the US Constitution in the name of "freedom." That's not the government's fault, that's OUR fault because we GAVE them that power.
While I respect your opinion on the matter, I disagree with it completely. It's not as simple as "I pay taxes, so I have te right to ***." I pay taxes, too. Paying taxes proves nothing other than the fact that you're employed.
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For all the people who are saying "I don't vote because I don't support either candidate": Have you even LOOKED at a ballot? Are you aware there's more than 2 names on the ballot?
Even if you voted for LOLcats for president, I would acknowledge the effort you made to get off your ***, go to a designated voting booth, and cast a ballot, rather than spewing off drivel like "My vote doesn't matter."
And sorry, no, I don't give a flying *** about your opinion. That's like your friend asking you what you want for dinner, you say "I don't care," and then getting pissed at them because they bought you something you don't like.
If you don't care what happens to this country, I don't care about you or your opinion. It's that simple.
And just for clarification: We're not a democracy. We're a republic. Anyone who seriously believes we've ever been a democracy in recent history is either confused, stupid, or both. If you don't like living in a republic, then leave?
Another edit: How does one being gay affect you? I fail to see the correlation between supporting gays even if you aren't gay, and voting. A gay person doesn't affect you. The government does.
Even if you voted for LOLcats for president, I would acknowledge the effort you made to get off your ***, go to a designated voting booth, and cast a ballot, rather than spewing off drivel like "My vote doesn't matter."
And sorry, no, I don't give a flying *** about your opinion. That's like your friend asking you what you want for dinner, you say "I don't care," and then getting pissed at them because they bought you something you don't like.
If you don't care what happens to this country, I don't care about you or your opinion. It's that simple.
And just for clarification: We're not a democracy. We're a republic. Anyone who seriously believes we've ever been a democracy in recent history is either confused, stupid, or both. If you don't like living in a republic, then leave?
Another edit: How does one being gay affect you? I fail to see the correlation between supporting gays even if you aren't gay, and voting. A gay person doesn't affect you. The government does.
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will you people stop resurrecting this thing? :(
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Siren.Eagleeyes said:
THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK YOU
So despite the fact you want the thread to die, you keep bumping it anyway?
Yup. Makes sense to me. >.>
Yup. Makes sense to me. >.>
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read the first and last pages here:
6, 7, 8 figure bonuses for the bailout companies?! WTF! They didn't pay back anything, instead their screwing their customers with more fees, penalties etc.
I'm with that one guy who said we should have just let them fail in the first place. Bailouts are dumb. Should have let GM fail and the other car company. Ford was able to pull itself out, while GM was too full of itself. I said let failing companies fail no matter how big they are. TO HELL WITH BAILOUTS!
The only thing I sort of agree on with republicans is let the free market decide. Survival of the fittest. Dems... idk, personally I voted for the Libertarian party in the last governor election. But I voted for Obama just because he was a Democrat and I was getting sick of Republicans *** up our nation.
When it comes to presidential elections yeah there's more than two parties, but unless there's some huge movement to elect anything other than the top 2, I'd rather vote for the lesser of 2 evils than a most likely not going to win party. NJ's election though had a good chance to get an Independent Governor, but as always NJ fails.
6, 7, 8 figure bonuses for the bailout companies?! WTF! They didn't pay back anything, instead their screwing their customers with more fees, penalties etc.
I'm with that one guy who said we should have just let them fail in the first place. Bailouts are dumb. Should have let GM fail and the other car company. Ford was able to pull itself out, while GM was too full of itself. I said let failing companies fail no matter how big they are. TO HELL WITH BAILOUTS!
The only thing I sort of agree on with republicans is let the free market decide. Survival of the fittest. Dems... idk, personally I voted for the Libertarian party in the last governor election. But I voted for Obama just because he was a Democrat and I was getting sick of Republicans *** up our nation.
When it comes to presidential elections yeah there's more than two parties, but unless there's some huge movement to elect anything other than the top 2, I'd rather vote for the lesser of 2 evils than a most likely not going to win party. NJ's election though had a good chance to get an Independent Governor, but as always NJ fails.
Cerberus.Katarzyna said:
So despite the fact you want the thread to die, you keep bumping it anyway?
Yup. Makes sense to me. >.>
Yup. Makes sense to me. >.>
maybe if i make it look hopeless they wont reply? O_O
Cerberus.Katarzyna said:
And just for clarification: We're not a democracy. We're a republic. Anyone who seriously believes we've ever been a democracy in recent history is either confused, stupid, or both. If you don't like living in a republic, then leave?
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Yeah, and are you aware those people will not be elected, effectively making it a wasted vote (unless you just want to feel good)and putting one back to square one?
Because sitting around and bitching about it on the internet is productive, amirite?
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
Yeah put those two together and see how well they are. They are both the first sentence of sequential and separate paragraphs so I do not want to hear "taken out of context" as a defence.
You don't want to hear "taken out of context" yet you do exactly that? I said I would acknowledge the effort, nothing more. You have yet to prove to me you even made an effort to do ANYTHING, other than *** about it on the internet.
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
It is simple that you like so many others see in black and white. Just because you do not vote in the lolrigged presidential election does not mean you do not care what happens in this country at all.
And please list off the grocery list of that YOU have done, other than sit here and *** like a toddler.
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
You know, you start out with something completely true and that I agree with then you finish with the "then leave" line and take it all away.
How is it taken away? If you don't like the rules of this sandbox either A) Try to change it or B) Go play in another. No one is FORCING you to stay.
See, here's the problem with the majority of people who simply say "I don't vote because my vote doesn't count" : They expect immediate, drastic change. Then, the minute they don't see an immediate, drastic change, they sit back and say "I told you so...." when they didn't even lift a finger to do anything themselves to begin with.
You honestly think the problem lies solely in the government?
Did I also mention there is more than just the Presidential election?
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Pandemonium.Spicyryan said:
So much for good old debate and argument.
Only yourself to blame. It's impossible to reason with someone who honestly believes that idly sitting and doing nothing actually changes anything.
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Cerberus.Katarzyna said:
Phoenix.Mikumaru said:
all of you points are valid and i respect them , except the bold portion . while this is your opinion and i respect that , this statement is either kinda dumb or youre just young (like maybe this was first election or something close) . See a long long time ago there was this election , see , and no matter who you voted for you lost . The reason you lost is because your vote didnt count , it still doesnt count . I am of course referencing to the election of 2000 . The years events , especially those that caused the Kor to create this thread in the first place , are proof positive that the US government DOESNT *** CARE WHAT YOU THINK . and btw even tho i havent voted since the 2000 election when it was proven to me that Government will do as it pleases i can *** *** all i want and do you know why my friend ? Taxes . See no matter if i vote or note , who i vote for , what ever , i have to pay for all this *** . So , since i foot the bill , i can piss up a storm . I dont have to pretend that i have a say . I know the truth . The sooner people accept this , the sooner we can move on . This refusal to accept this fact could possibly be causing the current state . If we just relent , maybe big brother will let the good times resume . And if you wanna flame on my point , just know that the Electoral College Exists and is very real . Compare the College votes to popular votes over the past , i dunno 3 or 4 elections and you will see my point . Perhaps if the Senators , President , and Congress had to actually LIVE under the laws and systems they enact and create , maybe i wouldnt have had to move back in with my parents toting 2 Children , 3 cats , and a Dog cuz i cant afford Rent anymore from myriad reasons ranging from the Economy (try raising a kid or 2 on $300 a week) to Health care (i'd bring home $450 , but $150 a week to pay for that shitty insurance) .Must be nice to do nothing and take home 5 or 6 figures a year .
Ahhh the old 'tree arguement' . While i am not a legal eagle i have a few Esq. friends and they repeat this almost exact thing . my retort is ' We dont control the Trunk , we control one small portion of the lower branches .' There are so many 'layers' between 'Us' and 'them' it becomes lost on the way . Its funny you talk of the Patriot Act and place the blame on the voters . The voters didnt write it , the voters didnt pass it . The same goes for this new health care bill that fines those with out insurance . What kind of ***is this ? If no one voted the exact same thing would happen as if everyone voted . At this point the supposed power wasnt given , it has been taken . Things like the Pat Act , and Health care reform werent put in place to make us feel better , live better , or improve our lives . Its so those with power and wealth have better conrtol over those with out . ANd paying taxes doesnt prove you have a job , it proves you live in this country , own property , make legitimate purchases , and are legally employed . If not voting removes your right to complain about the government , its employees and its spending , then not voting should also remove the requirement to pay for all those things . If that were the case , i think alot you'd see alot less people voting ;)
I don't care what anyone says about voting.
I know it works, because it put some idiots in office. But go ahead and believe that it doesn't work.
Next election, if nobody votes, I'll just vote for myself and become the next President. Then all of you guys are screwed.
I know it works, because it put some idiots in office. But go ahead and believe that it doesn't work.
Next election, if nobody votes, I'll just vote for myself and become the next President. Then all of you guys are screwed.
you'd kinda need w/e it is , 2/3 or 5/8 of the Electoral college . sorry bruh .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_college
cut and paste ftl
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_college
cut and paste ftl
Things are not geting better, but thay let him become CO of the u.s. do to that thay need a man of color to take the fall for all the white man *** in the past.
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