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Atheists are not Suicide Bombers.
Cerberus.Katarzyna
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By Cerberus.Katarzyna 2009-12-09 05:52:05
Seraph.Bulleta said: I'm not going to change you're way of thinking.
You're damn right about that. You've offered no evidence to me, only opinions. (And 4 Bible scriptures. Have I said I'm not a Christian yet? Oh right...) You've formed those opinions in a very piss poor fashion, so it's extremely hard for me to actually take you seriously.
So now that you've finally enlightened yourself into thinking you can't "save the world from religion," are you actually gonna stop preaching now?
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By Bahamut.Ashua 2009-12-09 11:04:35
I think im done. People want to skim read or just miss the mark on what im saying altogether. Good job.
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By Fenrir.Empedocles 2009-12-09 17:30:08
Ragnarok.Anye said: "The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children and their children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation."
Anye, tell me something.
Why is God allowed to punish children to the fourth generation because the FATHER is an ***?
If/when humans do this, almost everyone wants to lynch the culprit, and is condemned to be total scum. But... it's cool for God to? Not only that, but he's got people defending this behaviour?
(btw, I wish I had God's porn channel. That dude can and does watch every form of sex at all times of the day!)
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By Seraph.Bulleta 2009-12-09 17:51:23
Cerberus.Katarzyna said: Seraph.Bulleta said: I'm not going to change you're way of thinking.
You're damn right about that.
I have offered factual evidence along with every opinion I have shared.
It is not my opinion that Hitler was a Christian, and exterminated many jews because of their religious beliefs. That is fact. Don't lie to try an win an argument that you are losing.
I am not a gullable person, like yourself. I don't believe fairy tales just because someone wearing a pointy hat and pageantry gown says to. Be yourself. Believe me... His mind is no different than yours.
There are 1,000s of different stories that explain creation. With hard faith to back up
each and every one >< :)
There is only one that explains evolution. With hard facts to back it up :0
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By Seraph.Bulleta 2009-12-09 17:59:43
Ragnarok.Anye said: "The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children and their children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation."
The lord of which religion? There are thousands @_@
And among those thousands, all of them right, but each one says the rest are wrong <.<;
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By Cerberus.Katarzyna 2009-12-09 18:02:47
Seraph.Bulleta said: I have offered factual evidence along with every opinion I have shared.
Backpedaling is bad. You offered no evidence against religion. Only your misguided opinion.
Quote: It is not my opinion that Hitler was a Christian, and exterminated many jews because of their religious beliefs. That is fact. Don't lie to try an win an argument that you are losing.
Your whole argument never touched Hitler until someone else mentioned it...20-something pages in on another thread. Then you chose to get on your puppet account (which you still deny being yours. IP addresses don't lie honey. Perhaps you should practice what you preach...hmm?) and start arguing Hitler, in yet ANOTHER thread. You never once addressed the whole Hitler situation until someone else brought it up.
Once again, backpedaling is bad, mmkay?
Quote: I am not a gullable person, like yourself. I don't believe fairy tales just because someone wearing a pointy hat and pageantry gown says to. Be yourself. Believe me... His mind is no different than yours.
Who said I'm not myself? You said I don't have free will to do or act as I please? Not my deity, that's for sure. You? Your opinion means nothing. I'm not the one taking my influence from pop culture. That, my dear, is you.
So who is more pathetic? The person that blindly lets pop culture influence them, or the person who's actually researched other religions before coming to a conclusion?
Quote: There are 1,000s of different stories that explain creation. With hard opinions to back it up :)
There is only one that explains evolution. With hard facts to back it up :0
Even you said religion can't be disproven. You chose to be pig headed in believing that if it can't be disproven, it doesn't exist!
Hey, we haven't discovered the aliens either, but you scientist wannabes love that type of ***.
By the way, what IS your contribution to science? Still waiting to hear that one.
PS: MY religion doesn't say any other religion is wrong. So once again, you are wrong. Research your claims, next time, Mr. Wizard.
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By Seraph.Bulleta 2009-12-09 18:03:38
Let us say that Judaism and Christianity are both 100% correct.
Every thing Judaism says is proven fact.
Everything Christianity says is proven fact.
Jews believe Christians are wrong.
Christians believe Jews are wrong.
@_@
Therefore, god doesn't exist :)
100% Proof
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By Cerberus.Katarzyna 2009-12-09 18:05:16
Your mathematical data is where? Still waiting for it.
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By Seraph.Bulleta 2009-12-09 18:07:41
I wasn't being pig headed. I'm just not gullable as some of you are.
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By Seraph.Bulleta 2009-12-09 18:09:22
Cerberus.Katarzyna said: Your mathematical data is where? Still waiting for it.
If every religion is right...
Yet...
Every religion says every other religion is wrong...
Hmm...?
Are you not able to put 2 and 2 together?
A first grader could do it ~.^
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2009-12-09 18:11:12
Fenrir.Empedocles said: Ragnarok.Anye said: "The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children and their children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation."
Anye, tell me something.
Why is God allowed to punish children to the fourth generation because the FATHER is an ***?
If/when humans do this, almost everyone wants to lynch the culprit, and is condemned to be total scum. But... it's cool for God to? Not only that, but he's got people defending this behaviour? Concerning that, read Ezekiel 18 (it's not that long, I promise.) What I believe it means is that "the sin of the fathers" is the sin everyone (the children and their fathers) commits, which is to turn away from God. Elaborating further, what people aren't aware of is that sin is sin, no matter what form it takes. Any ACT of sin is a sin, but the action isn't the sin---uhh, well it basically means that, say, murder is a sin, but the punishment isn't for the act of murder but for not acting in love towards God and his people.
Matthew 20:36-50 - "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."
John 15:12 - "My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you."
Romans 13:8-10 - "Love is the fulfillment of the Law."
1 John 2:4-6 - God's love is made complete in acting as Christ did: in love. and later,
1 John 4:12 - "No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us."
I also feel I should emphasize that "punishment" is in the eye of the beholder--to a Christian torment is not being in the presence of the God he or she has chosen to love. In the end the "punishment" is nothing other than the lack of God's love.
Anyways, not that I should try to justify God's behavior, anyways:
Romans 9:14-15, 20 - "But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? 'Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, "Why did you make me like this?" '"
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By Seraph.Bulleta 2009-12-09 18:11:32
I didn't bring Hitler up. You're right.
Someone else did that. But they said Hitler was Atheist.
But Hitler wasn't Atheist. He believe in Jesus Christ.
Hitler was Catholic. Just like the rest of my family -.-
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2009-12-09 18:12:24
Seraph.Bulleta said: Ragnarok.Anye said: "The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children and their children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation."
The lord of which religion? There are thousands @_@
And among those thousands, all of them right, but each one says the rest are wrong <.<;
Actually, that's a direct quote from Exodus 34:6-7 if you read my post. I cited it within the sentence.
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By Cerberus.Katarzyna 2009-12-09 18:13:20
Seraph.Bulleta said: Cerberus.Katarzyna said: Your mathematical data is where? Still waiting for it.
If every religion is right...
Yet...
Every religion says every other religion is wrong...
Hmm...?
Are you not able to put 2 and 2 together?
A first grader could do it ~.^
How does that disprove the existence of a deity? Where is your scientific evidence? Might I remind you on page 12 you said this:
Quote: There is no proof god doesn't exist.
Scientists don't backpedal, deary. Or did your alternate personality Scareys take over on the wrong account?
Oh, and Anye, didn't you hear? Hypocrites can't read!
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2009-12-09 18:18:10
Cerberus.Katarzyna said: Oh, and Anye, didn't you hear? Hypocrites can't read! It's an ideal defense mechanism, I hear.
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By Seraph.Bulleta 2009-12-09 18:18:38
There is no Scientific Evidence that god doesn't exist. That is what i said. XD
But...
Faith can't be touched. Faith is absolute.
There is evidence of faith that disproves God's existence.
1000 Religions.
Each and everyone one of them proves "With Faith" That every other religion is wrong.
That is my evidence ~.^
:0
Therefore, God doesn't exist.
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By Fenrir.Empedocles 2009-12-09 18:21:17
HAY LOOK GAIS I'M BULLETA
I'm sorry Bulleta, I sympathise with your requirement to lash out at Religion in general for your upbringing perhaps but really it's something for a psychiatrist to help you move past it, not an internet forum.
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2009-12-09 18:22:35
Personally, I would never consciously say that "every other religion is wrong." I have a set of beliefs that I "have faith in," but my beef with people is that they misunderstand the true intentions of Christianity, not that they don't believe it.
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By Seraph.Bulleta 2009-12-09 18:27:06
Seraph.Bulleta said: There is no Scientific Evidence that god doesn't exist. That is what i said. XD
But...
Faith can't be touched. Faith is absolute.
There is evidence of faith that disproves God's existence.
1000 Religions.
Each and everyone one of them proves "With Faith" That every other religion is wrong.
That is my evidence ~.^
:0
Therefore, God doesn't exist.
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By Seraph.Bulleta 2009-12-09 18:28:07
When someone is right.
Just tell them to stop posting!!!
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By Cerberus.Katarzyna 2009-12-09 18:31:15
Seraph.Bulleta said: There is no Scientific Evidence that god doesn't exist. That is what i said. XD
But...
Faith can't be touched. Faith is absolute.
There is evidence of faith that disproves God's existence.
1000 Religions.
Each and everyone one of them proves "With Faith" That every other religion is wrong.
That is my evidence ~.^
:0
Therefore, God doesn't exist.
Your evidence is a load of ***. Not only do the 1000 religions not even correlate with the opinion of whether a deity exists or not, but it's not even evidence. It's an opinion. Opinions aren't evidence, retard.
Let's define evidence:
Quote: that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof.
I know, I know. That's a little too complex for you. Let's define proof:
Quote: evidence sufficient to establish a thing as true, or to produce belief in its truth.
Wow, that's still a bit complex. Let's define truth!:
Quote: a verified or indisputable fact, proposition, principle, or the like: mathematical truths.
Are you getting it yet? Or would you like me to break it down even further?
Back to your spamming quotes of yourself again? How many times have you broken forum rules? Hmmm...
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By Fenrir.Empedocles 2009-12-09 18:42:02
Seraph.Bulleta said: When someone is right.
Just tell them to stop posting!!!
Next time, read the text between the pictures. The reason why I'm asking you to stop posting is that you have become a Broken record. You are not furthering or advocating further discussion on a discussion forum.
I personally do not believe it's possible to like/dislike someone who you have never personally met, so this is not a case of "Hurr hurr yoo stoopid I dun like yoo", it's that this thread is now thirteen (fourteen?) pages long and you have not changed your basic argument since the very first post.
(I'll reply to you a little later Anye, it's just now I got Dynamis x.x)
Edit: Ah crap, I've got my Bulleta Threads mixed up. It was probably the OP of a different thread, which.... is probably worse.
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By Seraph.Bulleta 2009-12-09 18:42:35
Well either way... It proves god doesn't exist.
If evidence from faith is NOT enough to prove that god doesn't exist.
Then the evidence from faith is NOT enough to prove that he does exist.
Make up your mind :)
If you have one ><
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By Cerberus.Katarzyna 2009-12-09 18:44:43
Backpedaling is for retards who can't write a cohesive argument, then stick to it.
You're backpedaling. Guess what you are?
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By Seraph.Bulleta 2009-12-09 18:47:23
I was backpedaling, because you didn't "understand".
You're right. I was backpedaling for a retard :)
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By Cerberus.Katarzyna 2009-12-09 18:52:19
I understand perfectly fine you can't write a cohesive argument and stick to it. For days you go on and on about how god doesn't exist, yet when you're backed into a corner and asked to provide evidence you're like "I can't teehee."
Any argument you have after that fails. The only one trying to prove something is you. I don't give a *** if you change your mind tomorrow. I don't care if you get hit by a bus tomorrow. I don't care about YOU. You are nothing. Your life is nothing. You will quite possibly never amount to anything in your life. You're a liar, and an insecure little brat. If you're not already on medication, you should be.
maybe one day you'll grow up and actually contribute something other than poorly formed opinions to society. But I highly doubt it. If you haven't grown up by now, you never will.
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By Seraph.Bulleta 2009-12-09 18:59:36
Every argument that you can't compete with, or explain is incohesive, stupid, or HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. Typical way to try and win over an argument.
Someone beats you at a race..
Kat~> "Well this race is stupid -.-"
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By Cerberus.Katarzyna 2009-12-09 19:08:40
It's more like:
Someone says rap music is gay.
Bulleta: "Rap music is the best because I say so!"
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2009-12-10 06:09:18
Bulleta, take your camwhore, emo-tard pic away from FFXIAH, and GTFO
You are a broken record, and no-one (Atheist, or follower of a faith) likes you. Even the Atheists think that you are pig headed and stupid.
You have no opinion, It's all just regurgitated quotes from atheist websites.
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By Seraph.Bulleta 2009-12-10 13:23:34
I can't prove there is no god, but I'm very comfortable with that. I don't feel that it is necessary for me to do so, and it is not something that can disprove or destroy my beliefs. It isn't my responsibility to give you an answer to why there is no god. Because... Honestly, there is no one that can prove there is a god. Why should I need evidence, when you don't ?
Proving extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. Which you do not have. You dismiss my claims without evidence, so I can dismiss your claims without evidence. You are commenting on my thread that had to do with the 9/11 attacks, and you said my beliefs were pretty much bogus. Yet, you gave no intelligent reason why. You came to me. It is your responsibility to prove "why" my beliefs are bogus.
If John said he had an Invisible Green Gnome living in his bathroom, it would be his responsibility to prove it's existence. I shouldn't have to disprove it.
It is your responsibility to come up with an argument, and evidence proving that there is a god.
Which you can't. You absolutely can not. And you are pissed off. Which explains why you keep coming back to this thread.
Cerberus.Katarzyna said: New Topic:
Does Santa Clause Exist? Since I can't prove that he does, you have to prove that he doesn't exist :)
Atleast you know we are not suicide bombers :3
I seen a poster a while back, concerning the 9/11 terrorist attacks. It was a picture of the Eagle shedding a tear, and underneath it it read: "Now will you let prayer back in our schools?"
Excuse me... What the ????
Don't the people who do this kind of crap have too much prayer in their school!?!?
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