Regulate Religion, Not Guns.
Regulate Religion, Not Guns.
the bible is as a credible source as The National Enquirer, at least the Enquirer has funny stories and pictures.
Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Remora.Narrubia said:
Ragnarok.Anye said:
Seraph.Bulleta said:
5. Fossil records clearly show that there was life on Earth before humans.
Wikipedia said:
A raw BP date cannot be used directly as a calendar date, because the level of atmospheric 14C has not been strictly constant during the span of time that can be radiocarbon dated. The level is affected by variations in the cosmic ray intensity which is in turn affected by variations in the earth's magnetosphere. In addition, there are substantial reservoirs of carbon in organic matter, the ocean, ocean sediments (see methane hydrate), and sedimentary rocks. Changes in the Earth's climate can affect the carbon flows between these reservoirs and the atmosphere, leading to changes in the atmosphere's 14C fraction.
If I'm reading this graph correctly, then there is about a 1000 year error ratio in carbon analysis for every 7000 years old the carbon actually is. Even if the calibrated trend is exponential, the difference in carbon-dated time between the first evidence of life (2.5 to 4.0 billion years ago) and the first evidence of human life (200,000 years ago) is significant enough to say with certainty that there was life before humans.
Fairy.Tbest said:
Dead Sea scrolls? >.>
Remora.Narrubia said:
Pandemonium.Aravol said:
I also agree God tells us everyday, we just dont listen. We feel the only proof of existance is a visual and powerful display of strength for a God to exist.
Fairy.Vegetto said:
"But if your brother couldnt appear to u and left you letters or had " If he left me a letter, I know his handwriting. I'd know it was from him. It's still something he's doing DIRECTLY, and not something that he does indirectly. So let's say he can't appear to me, but instead of writing a letter, he turns to the person next to him "Hey write this down for me and send it to my brother" See my point?
Bahamut.Stanflame said:
does not mean that god could not have created human, or used planets as his play ground and an farm.
Pandemonium.Aravol said:
But if your brother couldnt appear to u and left you letters or had True,
Pandemonium.Aravol said:
but we cannot possibly understand what a "perfect" being God's Mind decides to do. We are merely thoughtless compared to that. We are to selfish to think otherwise that we demand things as does a toddler when they throw a fit.
Right now I claim I'm god. Why am I posting on a forum?... No matter what your argument is against it fails cause you can't understand my perfect mind!!!
Fairy.Vegetto said:
Remora.Narrubia said:
Pandemonium.Aravol said:
I also agree God tells us everyday, we just dont listen. We feel the only proof of existance is a visual and powerful display of strength for a God to exist.
I believe much was taken out of the bible due to ancient catholics doing so to better control society.
But this discussion could go on forever
Whats the meaning of life? everything people want to ask about that term aly just explained it. God probably wanted you to think for your selves if he exists or not. You have your freedom you are alive, well and enjoying what you were given be it creator, big bang etc. Whats to say god was not created with the big bang anyway?
Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Whats the meaning of life? everything people want to ask about that term aly just explained it. God probably wanted you to think for your selves if he exists or not. You have your freedom you are alive, well and enjoying what you were given be it creator, big bang etc. Whats to say god was not created with the big bang anyway?
That is twofaced, God is not.
Point is you are living, god was said to show himself to other's. Be happy, love each other etc. Be happy :).
Pandemonium.Aravol said:
Fairy.Vegetto said:
Remora.Narrubia said:
Pandemonium.Aravol said:
I also agree God tells us everyday, we just dont listen. We feel the only proof of existance is a visual and powerful display of strength for a God to exist.
I believe much was taken out of the bible due to ancient catholics doing so to better control society.
But this discussion could go on forever
we agree on two points, if this so called god does exist who needs his *** *** anyway? and you're "attractive" :D
Pandemonium.Aravol said:
Fairy.Vegetto said:
Remora.Narrubia said:
Pandemonium.Aravol said:
I also agree God tells us everyday, we just dont listen. We feel the only proof of existance is a visual and powerful display of strength for a God to exist.
In the end it all goes to the
"You can't prove he doesn't exist" argument and that's all fine and dandy to me, as my claim, which is correct, is that it is all just a theory.
"You can't prove he doesn't exist" argument and that's all fine and dandy to me, as my claim, which is correct, is that it is all just a theory.
Fairy.Vegetto said:
In the end it all goes to the "You can't prove he doesn't exist" argument and that's all fine and dandy to me, as my claim, which is correct, is that it is all just a theory.
you know what, after reading all the horseshit here about God, Mary the Virgin Dyke, and Jesus the inbred son of himself, its no *** surprise that we hate bible thumpers.
Does it really matter where we came from, how everything came about? My kids believe in Santa, so you can believe in God and not be looked at like an idiot.
Just remember that no one gives a flying rat ***cracker what YOU believe in, as long you believe in it on your own time.
Oh yeah, as Neitzche put it... "There is no God."
edit: None of you clowns can prove he exists, so stop trying and lets just go to the gun range.
Does it really matter where we came from, how everything came about? My kids believe in Santa, so you can believe in God and not be looked at like an idiot.
Just remember that no one gives a flying rat ***cracker what YOU believe in, as long you believe in it on your own time.
Oh yeah, as Neitzche put it... "There is no God."
edit: None of you clowns can prove he exists, so stop trying and lets just go to the gun range.
Pandemonium.Aravol said:
Fairy.Vegetto said:
In the end it all goes to the "You can't prove he doesn't exist" argument and that's all fine and dandy to me, as my claim, which is correct, is that it is all just a theory.
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
you know what, after reading all the horseshit here about God, Mary the Virgin Dyke, and Jesus the inbred son of himself, its no *** surprise that we hate bible thumpers. Does it really matter where we came from, how everything came about? My kids believe in Santa, so you can believe in God and not be looked at like an idiot. Just remember that no one gives a flying rat ***cracker what YOU believe in, as long you believe in it on your own time. Oh yeah, as Neitzche put it... "There is no God." edit: None of you clowns can prove he exists, so stop trying and lets just go to the gun range.
I think it is interesting hearing different opinions but feel free to dog any religion if it makes you feel better.
Oh, I agree, it is a huge contradiction with logic.
Pandemonium.Aravol said:
Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Whats the meaning of life? everything people want to ask about that term aly just explained it. God probably wanted you to think for your selves if he exists or not. You have your freedom you are alive, well and enjoying what you were given be it creator, big bang etc. Whats to say god was not created with the big bang anyway?
That is twofaced, God is not.
You are happy with your life? God should not interfere with people per say. God is not two faced never said he was. He supposedly gave people life, people fend for themselves and we do stuff on our own now. You still believe in god and do what he wants and think of heaven, hell and such and follow what he has left and what has been written in the bible. But at the same time atheist , or not religion is there. Aly stated she does not believe in got but, it was not in the sense most would think. She said she has all she needs here, she is living life to the fullest of her limits. You should not be worrying about anything else, when you die answers probably will come clear. People go to church and do bible school, let them be and do it. We are arguing over nothing is basically what people like aly is saying. I mean the OP is ignorant as an example, and pissed off lots of people. You choose your self what the meaning of life is to you, but ethics and morals come into play. Everyone knows the bible, I do not think no one thinks there is not a higher being or creator. It is probably in the reference of it as god and Christianity and other religions. If god was a powerful alien and he is sitting here, shocked people revere him as such... what if the guy goes by a different name or not? besides the numerous names he has in other religions?
I honestly , hope no one goes to hell for not thinking or believing in something =/. it is all here it is what we know whether there is a creator or not no one can't deny something is there, and there is some truths. it's all here no one can pop out of thin air and write such things, prophets, moses, jesus, etc.. it all came from some where. So everyone can't we all get along, take a chill pill.
Pandemonium.Aravol said:
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
you know what, after reading all the horseshit here about God, Mary the Virgin Dyke, and Jesus the inbred son of himself, its no *** surprise that we hate bible thumpers. Does it really matter where we came from, how everything came about? My kids believe in Santa, so you can believe in God and not be looked at like an idiot. Just remember that no one gives a flying rat ***cracker what YOU believe in, as long you believe in it on your own time. Oh yeah, as Neitzche put it... "There is no God." edit: None of you clowns can prove he exists, so stop trying and lets just go to the gun range.
I think it is interesting hearing different opinions but feel free to dog any religion if it makes you feel better.
no, just stating that its gone on far enough and people are just regurgitating everything else that everyone else already said.
There is no proof that God exists, evolution DID take place at some point, the bible is as corrupt as Supahead's tell-all book, and in the end, doesn't matter who you are, you're human and you'll die all the same.
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Pandemonium.Aravol said:
Fairy.Vegetto said:
In the end it all goes to the "You can't prove he doesn't exist" argument and that's all fine and dandy to me, as my claim, which is correct, is that it is all just a theory.
I understand everyone has there own views, and i am cool with that.
WHen i tell my 5 yr old son i love him it would be hard for me to show him what love is in a "proof" standpoint, but i could just tell him i love him because i buy his clothes and food and take care of him and stuff. But would we truly understand the answer i would give him?
Anyways, im going AFK for a bit, nice talking to you guys, take care.
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
you know what, after reading all the horseshit here about God, Mary the Virgin Dyke, and Jesus the inbred son of himself, its no *** surprise that we hate bible thumpers.
Does it really matter where we came from, how everything came about? My kids believe in Santa, so you can believe in God and not be looked at like an idiot.
Just remember that no one gives a flying rat ***cracker what YOU believe in, as long you believe in it on your own time.
Oh yeah, as Neitzche put it... "There is no God."
edit: None of you clowns can prove he exists, so stop trying and lets just go to the gun range.
Does it really matter where we came from, how everything came about? My kids believe in Santa, so you can believe in God and not be looked at like an idiot.
Just remember that no one gives a flying rat ***cracker what YOU believe in, as long you believe in it on your own time.
Oh yeah, as Neitzche put it... "There is no God."
edit: None of you clowns can prove he exists, so stop trying and lets just go to the gun range.
No need for such hostility I am trying to explain this with out being so harsh and blunt. Peace maker today.
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Pandemonium.Aravol said:
Fairy.Vegetto said:
In the end it all goes to the "You can't prove he doesn't exist" argument and that's all fine and dandy to me, as my claim, which is correct, is that it is all just a theory.
That picture is pure win my friend.
Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
you know what, after reading all the horseshit here about God, Mary the Virgin Dyke, and Jesus the inbred son of himself, its no *** surprise that we hate bible thumpers.
Does it really matter where we came from, how everything came about? My kids believe in Santa, so you can believe in God and not be looked at like an idiot.
Just remember that no one gives a flying rat ***cracker what YOU believe in, as long you believe in it on your own time.
Oh yeah, as Neitzche put it... "There is no God."
edit: None of you clowns can prove he exists, so stop trying and lets just go to the gun range.
Does it really matter where we came from, how everything came about? My kids believe in Santa, so you can believe in God and not be looked at like an idiot.
Just remember that no one gives a flying rat ***cracker what YOU believe in, as long you believe in it on your own time.
Oh yeah, as Neitzche put it... "There is no God."
edit: None of you clowns can prove he exists, so stop trying and lets just go to the gun range.
No need for such hostility I am trying to explain this with out being so harsh and blunt. Peace maker today.
we already know you're a dipshit anti-christ Stan, no need to fake it.
Pandemonium.Aravol said:
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
you know what, after reading all the horseshit here about God, Mary the Virgin Dyke, and Jesus the inbred son of himself, its no *** surprise that we hate bible thumpers. Does it really matter where we came from, how everything came about? My kids believe in Santa, so you can believe in God and not be looked at like an idiot. Just remember that no one gives a flying rat ***cracker what YOU believe in, as long you believe in it on your own time. Oh yeah, as Neitzche put it... "There is no God." edit: None of you clowns can prove he exists, so stop trying and lets just go to the gun range.
I think it is interesting hearing different opinions but feel free to dog any religion if it makes you feel better.
was trying not to start anything, my post above this was not agreeing with KFH. Just that when i had posted the thing I did I saw his post, and was saying what he said was not needed.. because this is how flames and hostility get started.
oh yeah...
its not "Happy Holidays".. its "MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!"
its not "Happy Holidays".. its "MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!"
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
you know what, after reading all the horseshit here about God, Mary the Virgin Dyke, and Jesus the inbred son of himself, its no *** surprise that we hate bible thumpers.
Does it really matter where we came from, how everything came about? My kids believe in Santa, so you can believe in God and not be looked at like an idiot.
Just remember that no one gives a flying rat ***cracker what YOU believe in, as long you believe in it on your own time.
Oh yeah, as Neitzche put it... "There is no God."
edit: None of you clowns can prove he exists, so stop trying and lets just go to the gun range.
Does it really matter where we came from, how everything came about? My kids believe in Santa, so you can believe in God and not be looked at like an idiot.
Just remember that no one gives a flying rat ***cracker what YOU believe in, as long you believe in it on your own time.
Oh yeah, as Neitzche put it... "There is no God."
edit: None of you clowns can prove he exists, so stop trying and lets just go to the gun range.
No need for such hostility I am trying to explain this with out being so harsh and blunt. Peace maker today.
we already know you're a dipshit anti-christ Stan, no need to fake it.
Anti-Christ? where did you hear this from?
Pandemonium.Aravol said:
True, but we cannot possibly understand what a "perfect" being God's Mind decides to do. We are merely thoughtless compared to that. We are to selfish to think otherwise that we demand things as does a toddler when they throw a fit.
This is enough to bring many to question God's omnipotence, unconditional love, or existence. Even if he does "function" on a different level than we do, we cannot reasonably define him as "omnipotent" or "all-loving" since those are human definitions and one (or both) of which may not properly define Him.
It's an issue theological philosophers bang their heads against walls over. As such, I'm going to leave this point as is and go back to grinding my teeth over bad science.
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