Stop Getting It Wrong!

In Mesopotamian mythology, Tiamat (Tiamat (Babylonian), Tamtu (Sumerian)) is a giant female dragon which was the primordial creatrix of all existence. She created the world and the gods, though this world had no land and was a vast water-world, filled with the waters of chaos. Tiamat personified the saltwater (ocean) while her consort Apsu (Apsu (Babylonian), Abzu (Sumerian)) personified the 'sweetwater' (freshwater). The intermingling of these two waters created the gods. In the Enuma Elish (the Mesopotamian creation epic), the gods bother Tiamat & Apsu, so the two decide to kill all their children. The god Ea discovers their plan and preemptively slays Apsu or casts a spell that puts him in a death-like sleep (since the waters of Apsu still exist even after his 'death'). Tiamat then sought revenge by creating an army of monsters and a new consort, Kingu (alt. Qingu) to be their general. Tiamat was slain by Marduk who trapped her with a "net of winds", shot arrows down her throat, and then cleaved her body in two, with the upper half creating the heavens and the sky and the lower half creating the earth. Tiamat is Akkadian for "sea".

Dungeons & Dragons (one of the inspirations for the original Final Fantasy) used Tiamat as an evil dragon goddess, specifically a 5-headed dragon (one black, one red, one green, one white, one blue). This is likely where Square got the idea to place her in Final Fantasy I.

Well whoever posted that is a Wikipedia cut and paster, so perhaps you should direct your rant at Wikipedia!

back in the kitchen, ***.

Of course Tia's a womanly dragon! >.> The name is too damn feminine.

Yeah but no one cares. Techinically these are there own mobs and while borrowed from other mythologies are not the same. I mean the originally certainly didn't answer to bahamut.

So perhaps this Tiamat is a he. Or genderless. Or maybe transgender

Thats true, she could be. In d&d, she was a (Correct me if I'm wrong) hydra who apposed bahamut(Or was a black dragon who apposed bahamut, I forget..). But in this, she's a dragon, and works under him. Jorg(Midgar snake) is a dragon as well, so in that same sense "Wtf" comes to question, but in the same sense again, SE needed some bigger names/dragon names with heavy lore behind it, which might be the reasoning behind them using the dragons ^^/

Yeah but no one cares. Techinically these are there own mobs and while borrowed from other mythologies are not the same. I mean the originally certainly didn't answer to bahamut. Given the description doubt it was weak to water either lol.

So perhaps this Tiamat is a he. Or genderless. Or maybe transgender

Traditionally you stop talking after the "no one cares" part, else you do indeed, care.

Stop getting it wrong!

Since dragons don't exsist, I use the pronoun 'it.'

You must be single.

Yeah and they never did name the other dozen or so that were in the mix in the cutscenes lol. Though really they could've found more real dragons but might have been hard to find them related to each other or as powerful in the lore.

What's the point of this? Shiva was a male in lore and female in FF.

I think the point of it all is to get the story straight.

Shiva is an Indian God (Buddhist) and since the Japanese love to make fun of religion, they made Shiva into a woman while keeping some of its "characteristic" traits (blue skin among other things).

So, anything goes in this game to be honest.

He/she/it doesn't really matter, because "it" is still dead after I'm done with it.

Tiamat is clearly female... she's a *** who doesn't put out.

Shiva, Ifrit, Ramuh, I think many of the avatars are genderless djinni in some myth/religions.

Shiva - "It's the clap!"

Yep, Tiamat is a she. I think She's even been mentioned as a "she" in some publications about FF. I think the FF1 strat guide for the PSP version (I can't recall if the original Nintendo Power strat guide for FF1 did also...) refers to Her as a "she" as well.

As far as the transgender possibility, I'm all for it. /d/ all the way. ^_^b