New Trust System - Who Will You Upgrade First?

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 Carbuncle.Maletaru
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-05-10 09:56:17
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RadialArcana said: »
English translation: "This is still at the idea stage and not a decided specification, but we're not considering simply raising the Trust's parameters (this is exactly what they ended up doing). For example, we're thinking of equipment-like items that can be set for each type, such as shield-type or mage-type trusts. It's an image similar to Automaton attachments. For a shield type, things that make them stronger against physical attacks or magic attacks could be set, allowing some degree of customization in direction. However, it's still a conceptual stage, so if it becomes too complicated, we might revise it, and actual adjustments are expected to start from next year onward."

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It would not have been difficult for them to use this system, and instead make it allow certain spells of weapon skills to be used when equipped. You could have custom built trust AI with attachents, in regards to spells and weapon skills. The base system is there, they would have just needed to alter how it worked.

Quotes like this make literally every programmer on the planet's skin crawl, simultaneously.
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By Fenrir.Celdwn 2026-05-10 10:43:33
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a good question for this thread now that we know a little more about the upgrade is: What fight will you be able to win with the new trust system that you weren't able to win with the old system?
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By RadialArcana 2026-05-10 10:52:41
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Quotes like this make literally every programmer on the planet's skin crawl, simultaneously.

We are paying a full monthly sub comparable to World of Warcraft and FF14 to a billion dollar company, that are offering barely anything for that money due to only having 2 developers working on the game and the one thing they were working on that a lot of people were looking forward to they are giving the bare minimum version of.
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By Garfield 2026-05-10 12:15:30
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RadialArcana said: »
they are giving the bare minimum version of.
Still at it, keep it up!

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Fujito (from the Dengeki Online interview)
Your sited source is a year old from the 2025 23rd anniversary interview, a lot has happened in a year...

You should really update your information, but since I'm in a good mood I'll do it so ppl aren't being mislead

"Initial phase boosting hp, mp and base stats"

RadialArcana said: »
Instead we get a merit system.
Let me correct this, in addition we get a merit system, the rest of the system is still being developed (by one guy who's also pulling all nighters wrapping up limbus)

In March they held a special Primed for Adventure interview with Fujito and an EN interpreter on twitch answering primarily questions about the trusts, this is the most relevant timestamp here they say they are aiming for end of year 2026 to have the trust attachments added.

At the same time they updated their lore website We are Vana'diel with all the trust information and more https://we-are-vanadiel.finalfantasyxi.com/post/?id=922

Which is where the other planned upgrades come from as well as this image, describing each trust role, tank, melee fighter, etc is going to have it's own equipment page




RadialArcana said: »
I don't play puppetmaster much, but you can buy attachments to improve things such as the potency of regen, emnity or other things when equipped. It would not have been difficult for them to use this system, and instead make it allow certain spells of weapon skills to be used when equipped. You could have custom built trust AI with attachents, in regards to spells and weapon skills. The base system is there, they would have just needed to alter how it worked.
What is this comment even mean? "It would not have been difficult for them to use this system" They are using it and have even said a few of the attachments they are planning to add such as OAT crazy!!

They've also added a nugget of information in that website "We also planning to implement new content that you can take on alongside your upgraded alter egos". Limbus is already out, we know of the addon story HTBFs, could be those, but it could also be something entirely different. Don't know for now, maybe this weekend we get a peek.

They've also talked before about how they are going to implement these attachments, I don't remember which aman live it was nor do I care to look for it, but they said they were toying with the idea of adding new open world NMs across vana'diel as well as possibly making the attachments craftable. We'll see in time how it all pans out.


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I was considering coming back...I guess I should be thankful he is saving me £80 a month
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We are paying a full monthly sub
You ain't payin ***

Honestly haven't been able to take you serious this whole thread and I hope noone else has.

For the rest of us, I'm looking forward to all the trust updates, I use them everyday and I'm glad that it's not a tacked on extra grind to compete with limbus, odyssey or sortie.

Make sure to do the upcoming new moogle anni event!! Trust Tome (100 points)!
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By RadialArcana 2026-05-10 13:24:47
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Garfield said: »
Still at it, keep it up!

Let's be clear:

They added a system, in a way to get as much money out of us as possible by offering a small amount of upgrades every month. That you have to sub PER MONTH to get, be gone for 10 months? You miss 10 months of upgrades (FOMO MOBILE GAME BS, when every other piece of "new" content is designed to be the same).

They also made it in a way where it is NONTENT, and you can finish it in an hour.

When the new content they are adding is crap to casual players, what the hell do they think people are going to react to adding trust upgrades in the way they did? Limbus is ***, Sortie is not for casual players, they refuse to add anyuthing to Ambuscade rewards. What have casual players got in the past year? besieged 13 that is over in 10 mins?

This is stuff people have been looking forward to for over a year, when other things they added are not good.

Secondly, if what you say is true then it's not my fault they are so utter G A R B A G E at communicating to their customers, that's not our fault. If they had more to come (which I'm not sure there is more at all, and neither are you), then they should say so properly and not be a dunce. They are FULLY aware people were not happy with the updates, they even took questions on reddit and there was no comment on what you said there.

It's not our job to act like private investigators to piece together what teh hell they are doing, it should be stated in the update notes that more is coming.

This is a billion dollar company, that has translators in house and a literal community team that is paid full time to communicate with its players, we get more communication from the flying spaghetti monster.

Not only does the sub not drop when they keep loweing the number of developers, but they keep finding new ways to get more money out of us (such as AMAN trover, which magically you can send all the drops from it to alts when it suits them, cause it's pay to win paying for rerolls). All while giving us less and less content, and saying how they were thinking of sunsetting the game BUT FF14 players started coming so they decvided to keep going. Oh I'm sorry, are we that have PAID to play this game for 23 years not enough for them? I guess we are *** shitters!?, oh pardon me Square Enix I didn't know 40k people paying a sub wasn't worth your time!

This is not some mom and pop stand selling oranges, absolute clown show company that can't make games anymore worth a damn.

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Let me correct this, in addition we get a merit system, the rest of the system is still being developed (by one guy who's also pulling all nighters wrapping up limbus)

Limbus is *** ***m8 and it's desiged to drag out and be ***and people are geting sick and tired of it as content, btw that's their job they are getting paid by us to do it.

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You ain't payin ***

I went from 6 accounts with numerous alts for various reasons (most of which I have paid for over 12 years), to 1 account and 1 character. Cause they are treating their loyal cuastomers like ***the last few years, and I'm not happy about the way they communicate since Fujito took over and the content they are adding for that money.

When Matsui was in charge I kept my accounts subbed, even when I wasn't playing cause he was putting effort in, had passion for the game and I felt I wanted to support that.

Ever since Fujito took over it's been messaging and content that has been the exact opposite of repsect for thier paying customers, his initial communication when he took over was talking about not wantint to ruin developers careers by being attached to the game. What the hell even is that, who talks like that to customers paying money for a service?

Also even if I wasn't paying (which I am) I can still say whatever I want about game I've put 20+ years into anyway.

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Make sure to do the upcoming new moogle anni event!! Trust Tome (100 points)!

I will take those crumbs (I'm paying the least I can as a pointless protest, and I'm still mad at how they are doing it), but I'm still not happy about how they implemented the entire system. I wanted to level this stuff as content, cause most of the new stuff they have added is crap that is designed to take as long as possible and keep you subbed as long as possible in the most cynical and obvious way possible.
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By Dodik 2026-05-10 13:31:00
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Garfield said: »
they were toying with the idea of adding new open world NMs

I believe that was a while back and was referring to Omega/Ultima that were added in Limbus.
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By RadialArcana 2026-05-10 13:44:09
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Dodik said: »
Garfield said: »
they were toying with the idea of adding new open world NMs

I believe that was a while back and was referring to Omega/Ultima that were added in Limbus.

It was most likely talking about the Kirin and Fafnir ff14 crossover events, that they remove in a few weeks and then bring back months later.

If they left those in the game permanently it would at least be something useful.
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