PLD Sortie Advice

Hello All,
Started running Sortie on PLD looking for any advice if possible.
Right now I have been full timing Sakpatas Sword and Aegis are any other shields useful on bosses?
I am also locking in SIRD gear during boss fights should I be in SIRD gear all boss fights and pretty much just there for the cures and to tank and not worry about dmg?
Thanks for any tips or tricks.

SIRD is going to do veeery little for most sortie bosses. Most bosses have magical melee hits, and magic hits don't interrupt spellcasting.

Degei/Aita/Skomora/Triboulex/Aminon are 100% magical melee attacks. No need for SIRD.

Ghatjot/Dhartok/Leshon/Gartel have one physical melee hit. And of those I'd really only have any concern about Leshon/Gartel maybe interrupting.

holycircle/Sepulcher C/G boss. use fealty on G. I actively try to do DPS on all bosses, everybit helps.


I use stage 3 duban/burtgang, and use exca/aegis on Aminon, Burt/srvista on kiting F/H.


Edit: if you are /sch and doing 9 boss where cor/brd are using savage just stack all the buffs you can on them. firestorm/regen1/klimaform/aquaveil/holy circle/stoneskin etc.

i first started doing 8boss on pld with sakpata's/aegis - i do switch to Duban when getting D topfloor objective just oos of the way my group does it, I end up pulling and holding a bunch of fomors while everyone else SCs (this is also the only point where I'll use my SIR set). Once I got Burtgang it's just Burt/Aegis.

Obviously Excal/Aegis for Aminon.

HolyCircle and Sepulcher as stated on C/G - Holy Circle also works to give everyone an extra buff in case Leshonn is in WindHands so there's more buffs to potentially get stolen. Also recommend Accession Firestorm and Aquaveil for those extra buffs too, and firestorm may help COR dps on A/E/C/G if they are using HotShot.

I don't worry about contributing DPS really but I do engage and WS on all bosses we don't kite.

I use Fealty before going in if Leshonn is ThunderHands so I don't get stunned a bunch at the beginning, and you can also do the same with Tribolouex since he will stun at the beginning sometimes.

For Gartell specifically I just always stay 20+ away even on the initial pull so that he doesn't ever have a chance to do any TP moves since getting one of our songs stolen there means we're down a buff until CC comes back up. Not a huge deal but this can really make a difference if you're trying to squeeze in 9boss

I do lots of weapon swaps: (probably overkill but I try to squeeze as much out as possible)

Excal/Duban at the start for doing D objective. Seraph > RLB > Flat > Savage > KoR.

After D (depending on DD) I swap to Burt/Svrista for kiting H. Overkill but damage doesn't matter and losing hate is the only possible issue.

After H its Reikiko/Duban (or Aegis) for doing CBA bosses.

Once down in F I swap to Burt/Aegis for kiting and leave that on through G and E.

Excal/Aegis for Aminon.

Tips: I banish2 C/G plus the mentioned JAs. Save SP1 incase you need to blow it for a bad bitzer. Tank G at 5.5 and have your teammates stand at max distance on the other side. If you are doing Naaks/Flans after Aminon save Sentinel after WC during Aminon for quick snap hate after the mobs are tagged. PLD can do respectable damage on Aminon don't sleep on your contribution.

I agree on the damage part, our cOR hits us with tact while in motion, leaves rostam on and opens with last stand during pull then switches to naegling, I can with Burt do 70k savage and make light for 50k. Thats an instant 120k while the NM is getting into position

Some great info I do appreciate it yall.
I do not have Burt or Excal atm so gonna have to stick to Calad, Almace or Sakpata's Sword.
Are yall running /blu mostly too or /sch?

Do you notice a difference casting Banish on C/G? I never even thought of using it until reading this. I was looking on the wiki and they both already take full damage from physical damage types so would it still increase the damage it takes?

Why Reikiko? Do you need the Regain on those particular bosses?

It's probably because he will have TP upon reaching those NM's after running.
I use Burt/Srivatsa for everything but Aminon which is Excal/Aegis, and D Obj which is Excal/Duban.

That makes sense, thanks.

Soloed D objective tonight with no issues using this set:

Seraph > Burning > Flat > Savage > KoR

sets.engaged = {ammo="Hoxne Ampulla",
head="Hjarrandi Helm",
body="Hjarrandi Breast.",
hands="Sakpata's Gauntlets",
legs="Volte Tights",
feet={ name="Carmine Greaves +1", augments={'HP+80','MP+80','Phys. dmg. taken -4',}},
neck="Vim Torque +1",
waist="Sweordfaetels +1",
left_ear="Dedition Earring",
right_ear="Alabaster Earring",
left_ring="Moonlight Ring",
right_ring="Moonlight Ring",
back={ name="Rudianos's Mantle", augments={'DEX+20','Accuracy+20 Attack+20','DEX+10','"Store TP"+10','Damage taken-5%',}},
}

Not really a big deal but could open up BRD helping elsewhere or going to find minis etc.

While blocking, you get massive amounts of TP regardless of your engaged set. We've never had anyone help with D objective, our breakdown is:
DNC+COR -> B
GEO -> A
RDM+BRD -> C
PLD -> D

I do not have that ammo, legs or waist
Curious if I could still solo if I just sub out to different pieces for those 3.
Also I do not have Excal, my swords are Almace and Naeg guessing I could use Almace with Level 1 Duban or Srivatsa?

Think I could use
Tatena Haidate +1 R15
Coiste Bodhar R30
Sailfi Belt +1 R15 in place of those 3 pieces?
Also are you subbing Blu or something else I am wanting to try to solo D on PLD
Thanks a ton

Not sure how you'd fit tate on a pld. Alternative for STP is gonna be flamma legs probably. Or augmented odyssean legs

Ah my eyes are broken this morning yeah no Tat for PLD orz

Oh yeah Ody legs would be the best best for STP base of 5 and can augment to 8 possible.

Also you don't need /blu for fomors, long as you have reprisal going(may not even need that but why wouldnt you have it up?) you'll block just about everything the upstairs fomors can do, just avoid the mages obviously

So recommended then /SCH or /WHM as PLD doing this?

Would depend on your group, ML, and what you're comfortable with but /sch is pretty versatile for a sub and doesnt require much in way of ML SJ unlocks(basically gives you everything at SJ50), does basically everything /whm would offer you and offers even more via strats. /run can offer more hate generation but may not be necessary and foils quite the grind and a big part of said hate generation.

Not sure where i can toss in much more, but abstracting PLD's usefulness in DPS situiations is limited to 2-3 bosses if youre primary purpose is holding up party at Aminion, and E/F/H. Thats the bulk of your points, if you're on 9-boss runs. If you can tinker some DPS in to your kits, awesome. Those mini's A-D are ~3mins a fight. Don't overinvest in sets WS sets. IMO holding the party up is PLD first job. /run > /sch, if your mates aren't holding up the party waiting on you to take a status off that meds should be doing, or putting buffs up that you really dont have to worry about. Those enmity/kiting sets should be tinkered to max enmity, regardless of TP swap/loss. There's a ton of good suggestions in comments and tactics where PLD makes a difference using /ja or collaborating on timing during certain engagements. Have an awesome time with it. Good PLD and mostly errorless runs are the difference between 50-70+k runs. Get those reps in 8)

It's all a balancing act, if the group is able to pump out all the dmg theyre capable of without grabbing hate with plds base tools(DNC having jumps they'll be able to utilize if timers allow), then is /runs additional generation needed, if not then /sch gives you a small time save with slapping sneakga on everyone, could aoe a weather to pump out a lil extra atk+ on the naegling user.

It's just whatever works within the group to squeeze out a few extra seconds, that might amount to a few minutes within the whole run, outside of a few baselines the rest will depend on the cohesion of the group as a whole as to what is "best".

We are looking to start small and build of course so not looking to kill em all from the get go, I am getting some great advice though. I do not see Amin on our radar for a good bit tbh.

What +4 are people utilizing on PLD?

i am not a fan of using founders hose even in SIRD sets so i was happy to drop those in favor of relic +4 legs.

i also like af+4 body/feet and use those regularly.

When the +4 feet came out it was discovered that the EN client had the wrong text the whole time. It only converts physical damage and only when blocking. I used to wear the AF feet all the time, but since that revelation came out I stored them; I think they're essentially worthless now.

AF body is nice for FC, though without GS it's difficult to take advantage of it most of the time.

Relic head is a macro swap piece. I guess you can +4 it for more defensive stats during the 1 second it will be on. Similarly for relic body, hands, feet, and legs.

I never noticed the SIRD on the legs, but 10 vs 30 makes a very substantial difference and would require other changes to your set if you're looking to take out Founder's. Everyone builds their SIRD sets differently so I'll let you be the judge of that yourself.

well maybe I should rephrase, of the +3 pieces you have which are worth making to +4. Obvioulsy the AF body is a great FC piece but it doesnt get any better at +4 for its usecase. Which is just a macro FC pieces, with gearswap you cant really get caught in it so I dont really think there is an arguement for the added def/meva to be worth while.

The macro pieces to me are a hard sell to spend the limbus points on over say murky ring/alabaster earring or one of the PLD sworn pieces.

In case it needs to be said more explicitly: I wouldn't upgrade any of it. I haven't upgraded any of it. It's worn for a single second at best, maybe just a packet. At least for me, it's extremely low priority.

I +5'd the whole Relic set and the whole AF set for Pld because what else are you spending points on when capped and with no matters to use.