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HELP: I Want Work (Fresh Out of College)
 Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2025-11-04 22:25:05
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Asura.Saevel said: »
It really depends on your skill set and how good you are at selling that skill set as a solution to the problems a prospective employer is having. To "win" in the labor game you need to either be super cheap (India/China) or super high skilled.

Yep. In a lot of cases it's all about who you know, though. I got my last job because the director of the department knew me and knew how to use my skill set to his advantage. He said I'd be the last person to get laid off from the department.

Once he left, the new director was far more interested in fighting fires than improving our processes so that they didn't happen in the first place. I was screwed because the people who appreciated what I did were not the ones directly in charge of me, so I became much more expendable when a big layoff occurred.
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-11-05 07:56:18
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
ep. In a lot of cases it's all about who you know, though. I got my last job because the director of the department knew me and knew how to use my skill set to his advantage. He said I'd be the last person to get laid off from the department.

Well knowing someone just ensures your resume is on the short list and makes you a known quantity. The two things hiring managers are looking for in candidates are "can they solve a problem we are having" and "will they become a problem". Being a known quantity answers the second question, meaning you only need to demonstrate an answer to the first. Candidates coming in cold need to do both.

I try to encourage people to use personal time to enhance skills and work on themselves as a way to make answering that first question easier.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-11-10 10:05:33
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A good article on AI and today's job market:

AI Is Taking Over the Hiring Process — And It’s Weirdly Futuristic

As if the job market wasn't already grim enough.
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By Bahamut.Senaki 2025-12-19 08:43:11
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Update: Graduated for reals. Now have luxury of time to extensively look for work.
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By Dodik 2025-12-19 12:11:17
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Grats, now it begins for real.
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By Pantafernando 2025-12-19 13:51:52
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Now you are officially unemployed
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By Asura.Iamaman 2025-12-19 13:55:59
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Now for the real boss: Getting past greenhouse.io
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By Bahamut.Senaki 2026-03-02 16:19:49
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I had an interview today. Somehow passed the tech questions. Then my low-INT-elvaan brain asked about the weather at the location of employment. Probably wouldn’t be weird except I live right next to said location. Interviewer looked at me like I was a *********.
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By Pantafernando 2026-03-02 16:35:35
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People "fresh out of college" normally arent any better than that.

It could be worse if you had asked after the technical interview what that firm does for work.
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By Shichishito 2026-03-02 16:48:26
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I've witnessed a wall of rain moving once where you could clearly tell one side nice and dry and 2 feet further it was pouring. So technically I guess it could be rainy on their half of the street while it's not on yours.

Don't worry too much, I doubt data scientists are expected to be great at small talk.
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By Asura.Iamaman 2026-03-02 17:14:50
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Bahamut.Senaki said: »
Probably wouldn’t be weird except I live right next to said location. Interviewer looked at me like I was a *********.

Everyone you interview with has done interviews before, been nervous, and said silly things. If they are the type of person you'd want to work with, then they might think the question was weird at first but in the long run probably not care and you can laugh about it later.

Most people are far more interested in the quality of your person and background than they are little things like this. I wouldn't worry about it.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2026-03-02 17:15:31
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Interviews are basically two people lying to each other about the role itself and your skills, counting the seconds until they run out of "important" things to talk about. Most conversations and interviews can be discussed in fifteen minutes tops. They kind of already know a newly grad without experience doesn't have much to fall back on, conversation-wise, so it's just as awkward as them asking you to "tell me about a time where you had to...". It's more about making the person like you (Charisma) and seeing if you are a fit for their team. With that being said, all you can be is yourself, and if the interviewer simply doesn't like you, there's no way to fake it, you just wont get hired. So your job should be to be as natural as possible during interviews and try to convince the interviewer to like you. That goes a lot further than using fake LinkedIn catch phrases to impress people, it doesn't work.

I used to work in HR and I would see people with the personality of a rock getting roles, and couldn't understand how. It wasn't their skills either. So either they knew someone and got the plug, or they put on their game face and aced the interview, and interviewer liked them and went with it. On the other hand, I have seen people with the best skills just not get the role because the interviewer didn't feel like the incumbent "meshed" well. They were either cocky, jerks, or just were "too" qualified and they talked themselves out of jobs. It's super political and almost insulting how many jobs are gotten just off vibes and nothing to do with actual skills.

Oh yeah, one more thing. Since I did work for a very big company, I can also tell you that at least 30% of the roles are totally made up. Like they lead to nowhere. They're either never filled, refreshed and never interviewed for (right now my company website shows 7 listings from April 2025 that will never get filled), or created to bypass the hiring process entirely. Some interviews people get are totally hoaxed to buy time until they can "hire" their internal candidate they REALLY made the role up for (for a pay bump, easy way to circumvent the off-season promotion cycle). So don't get upset if you ace an interview and get ghosted, and then hear back 8 weeks later they chose someone else. They chose someone else well before the role was posted, but in order to pretend to be "Fair" in the job search process, they posted a role and got external candidates to apply. This looks better than just giving the role to an internal candidate, because people can claim they only got the role due to favoritism. I'm not making this up, because it's exactly how I got a pay raise when the company couldn't offer me a promotion. They made up a job in the next tier of my current role, included my entire job description in it, interviewed a half dozen people (including me), then said "well, you're the best qualified for the job, you're hired!". Don't want you to get miffed if you start landing interviews but never get the job. It's really a dirty game and you just need to know how to play it. GL fam

edit - by the way, if you asked a weird or dumb question, something that will absolutely soften the mood is to smile and acknowledge "hey im nervous, that was kind of a dumb question LOL". You'll break the tension easily and the interviewer will respect how human you are and willing to own up to a silly gaffe. It says a lot about the kind of person you are (not taking yourself too seriously, willing to admit mistakes). It's way more valuable than talking like a computer and pretending to be Mr. Perfect, i'll tell you...
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By Asura.Malkavius 2026-03-02 19:25:16
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May not be something you are interested in but if so I can generate a referral link.

https://careers-ebscoind.icims.com/jobs/1956/data-analytics-and-experimentation-intern/job
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