PERMA Weapon Choice. What's Your Favorite Flavor?

For me, my current favorites (not in any particular order) are:

Gae Buide
Kasunagi
Foenaria
Mpu Gandring (especially with Climatic Flourish up)
Death Penalty
Caladbolg

Yagrush.

Laphria's appeared on my list now as high (but not quite favorite) for freeing me from Savage Blade and being a tangibly strong all-rounder option.

Laphria is about to become popular IMO. Its a very good weapon and WAR (Tomahawk) is perfect for Limbus. If they add stronger bosses like Omega/Ultima with the same -DT I could see it being the best melee weapon.

Kikoku - first REMA I made, always will love my first
Dokoku - Have to have the complete the collection, I also really do like it as my first Prime
Tizona - First Mythic and game changer for BLU

Tizona
Hvergelmir building cure sets much easier
Caladbolg Just Pure Damage.
Chango same as above
Foenaria people started playing DRk cause of it.
Heishi/Doji for 99999 WS Damage.
Trishula epic umbra self sc
Rhongomiant Crit Build and Light SC

Wut?

of course you wont understand the strugges of non lua/gearswap users.

Nirvana.

idris

I can't tell if this is double irony, or if you're double dense. My question remains though:

Wut?

Do you mean FC sets, or are you genuinely putting Hvergelmir in your cure sets? Regardless of gearswap or not, you should never cast a cure in a Hvergelmir.

Ukonvasara - I have awesome memories with this weapon, starting from completely dominating Abyssea with it, then Voidwatch, making it 99lv seconds after the update that made it possible and finally playing with my favorite white damage builds in current times. Also Galka Ukko's Fury animation is just amazing.

Verethranga - Pretty much the same story as Ukonvasara, but while I prefer MNK theme much more than WAR, I can't forget that Veret is only Empy weapon gutted from being able to proc aftermath on all hits or at least all hits with one hand.

Apocalypse - Imo it's by far the best-designed weapon in FFXI (spoiler: alongside Tizona). It looks the best, it has the best looking/sounding WS, it fits the job lore the most, it has great utility and was by far the highest dps at some point. Ofc it's now overpassed by Foenaria in some aspects (still missing JA haste and gold>black :P), but Foenaria it's just an upgraded idea.

Tizona - Same arguments as for Apocalypse, except Expiacion doesn't look as cool as Catastrophe, but it aged much better not being overpassed by anything.

In terms of game-changing and job-changing, nothing comes even close to the utility of a Yagrush.

It turns Whm from a "OMG all those debuffs" job to a "lol-debuffs" job.

It turns some fights from impossible to "Just have a good whm".

No yagrush -> whm not good.

And you don't even need to afterglow it.

No other weapon comes even close.

Vanilla users often (not always) forego having precast/midcast sets, and just cram some fastcast in their midcast sets. This goes especially for spell with already natural low casting times.

Sure, but when you have 50% FC on a single piece of gear, like this exact situation right here...that seems really dumb?

Here's a free gift:
/equip main Hvergelmir
/equip body "Melinic Jubbah"
/equip feet "Merlinic Crackows"
/ma "Cure iv" <t>
/equipset yourcuresetnumber <wait 1>
/equipset youridlesetnumber

There, you have (at least) 72% FC even with no subjob, plus light arts, can use full potency, only spend 1 second in your cure potency set (the least amount possible), and are back in your idle set right away, all in one macro.

If you're putting Hvergelmir in your midcast cure sets, you're doing it very, very wrong.

Hvergelmir Is incredibly useful for vanilla WHM cure.

Edit for male: yeah that was sarcasm

Again, not sure if we're trolling here but...no.



Even if WHM were on Hvergelmir...you could do the same trick as above, use it with /equip main, then swap to a real set.

It's not a thing. The very nature of Hvergelmir self-defeats any attempts to suggest it's a good midcast piece. It's a bad take for every job that ever was, or ever will be, on it.

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Relic: Apocalypse. Yeah, I showed up late to the damn party. Got mine back in 2015 when everyone else had already cleared the buffet. Still, that thing carried me through Dual-Box + Trust farming like a loyal mutt that bites back. Gorgeous weapon design too it looks like it was carved by angels on a caffeine rush. And yeah, I’d love if SE let us fuse Dynamis Divergence weapons with Relics. Make the old legends great again.

Empy: Ukon. Pure emotion pick. My old Linkshell. Sacia, Kuz, Peace Keeper, Marth, ELY, Bruno, Baratheon, Shinshi etc. (thanks to you maniacs) built it for me during an LS event. Every swing feels like nostalgia wrapped in sweat and friendship.

Then came the Vereth.
Thanks to my girl for helping me craft this beauty. Every swing of that weapon hits like a love letter written in blood. Every damn strike reminds me of what we went through together, sweetheart, passion, chaos, and just enough madness to make it worth remembering.

Aeonic: Godhands. Paired with Kendatsuba +1, Moonshade, Mpaca’s Cap, etc. As a returning player, it gave me enough punch on MNK to not feel like a total tourist. Forever grateful to that setup.

Mythic: Liberator. Personal reasons. Pure glamour. It’s my “walk the runway in full DRK fashion week” weapon.

Prime: Helheim. Practical choice since it works on multiple jobs (WAR, DRK, PLD, RUN). But if I had to go exclusive, I’d pick Foenaria for DRK. Sorry, but I’d never make a Laphria not my style, not my choice, not today, not ever.

These are the reasons why I sure as hell wouldn’t make a Laphria.

Helheim: Yeah, maybe Laphria hits a tiny bit harder on paper, but I’ll take versatility on multiple jobs over a few extra pixels of DPS.

Foenaria: Think of it as an Apoc +1. A dead DD does zero damage, and a DD who needs a medic every five seconds is just a fancy liability. DRK with 5000+ HP? That’s survival, not theorycraft.

Ukon: Still alive and kicking. In long fights (3 minutes, 5 minutes, even 20+ minutes wave-3 bosses say hello), this beast can trade blows with anything out there.

Much respect to the folks who have the luxury of multiple Prime weapons, but Laphria? Nah. Not a valid or justified choice in my book. If you made it for fun like a Liberator cool, it’s your time and your $13 a month. But if you’re out here selling it as “META”? That’s where I step in and call it out.

Ragnarok -- /lockstyle is one of FFXI's true endgames.

Yagrush -- Massive quality of life upgrade for WHM.

Carnwenhan -- Massive quality of life upgrade for BRD.

Its more WAR that is Limbus Meta. You want a WAR in every NM killing party. Just like you want WAR in every v25 clear you can melee. Tomahawk and Warcry are huge party buffs.

Laphria just happens to be WARs best weapon when you can have a SJ. Meta jobs best weapon, nothing more or less.

I've never experienced whatever nonsense you are describing here...you hit /equipset 12 and the game equips...half of the set, but not the other half...because lag...?

Anyway, let's assume that actually happens, somehow. I'll grant that this happens. Please explain how making a hybrid FC/potency set improves that compared to what I do?

Are you going to try to imply that this lag miracle also applies to /equip main Hvergelmir ...? If so, I can assure you it never happens. I've had macros like these on SCH, RDM, and WHM for years and my log shows "equipment changed" 3 times for every spell, with 100% consistency. I have cast thousands, probably tens of thousands, of spells with these macros and I've never once seen the chatlog show 2x (or fewer) "equipment changed".

After that, the macros have the same number of equipset changes...so I'm not really sure what the advantage is here. You (or whoever is utilizing this strategy) are equipping 1 equipset (the hybrid FC/potency one) and I am also equipping 1 equipset (a cure potency set), except mine has better stats in it.

Even if we assume that somehow SE will not equip half of the set.

Don't put Hvergelmir in your cure midcast sets. It's just bad play.

I will explain how good it is for vanila players that could not register fastcast and midcast set as lua/gearswap, Vanila user suffer from one second lock so mid cast cure potency set wont register if you have precast fc, so our only option is to use it to help cap fast cast and capping cure potency and some conserve Mp all of that in one set, plus not all situation will allow sj rdm.

I think you might've skipped over the post where I showed you how incredibly untrue this is.

You can have 72% FC in every spell you ever cast on SCH, BLM, or SMN, without any 1 second delay, 100% vanilla, without *** up your midcast sets. (Disclaimer: not on BLM/SMN if you want to save your TP). If your idle set has a 10% FC cape in it, you're at 80% FC.

Please, for the love of all that is holy, stop using terrible hybrid midcast sets.

Also, I thought this was pretty common knowledge at this point but just in case you aren't aware: I play Vanilla. What I'm discussing here are my actual macros, actual equipsets, and actual strategies. This isn't some hypothetical, I've been doing it for years. It works.

Did you play vanila recently? and who said I'm using it as midcast, I have one set.

this is my macro an example which similar what you wrote but more convinent for me lets say.

/equipset 1 compelete set
/ma "cure" <wait 1>
/equipset idle/dt

Yes, I play vanilla every single day. I have for the past like...5 years.

I understand your macro, it's bad.

edit for clarity: midcast = the set you have equipped during the termination of the spell.

For your set, your midcast is "equipset 1" in this example. It's a hybrid set.

For my set, my midcast is "whateveryourcurepotencyset is" in my example. It's a full potency, full dt, full -enmity, full CMP set with no slots sacrificed for FC.

Both of the macros spend 1 second in their midcast set, then switch back to their idle sets. Both macros cast the spell immediately after the macro is pressed, and both of them have 80% FC in them. Except mine has better gear on while the spell is being executed.

ok how is yours better than mine, am not arguing just want to get the benefit of your way. cause i'm not facing any problem with my macro, plus my set capped dt fc and cure potency cmp.

Midcast set is the set between precast set. I'm using precast set that has dt fc cure potency and cmp and no mid cast just striaght to idle. bro I feel we're doing same thing but in different way.

Let's look at the cure potency, -enmity, DT, and Conserve MP in the sets.

For example WHM
ItemSet 393695
50% cure potency, 20% cure potency II, weather effect, MP return, capped solace, 16 CMP, -50 (capped) enmity, and 50% DT (with Shell V)

SCH
ItemSet 400865
50% cure potency, 22% cure potency II, weather effect, 26 CMP, -24 enmity, and 50% DT

Now yours.