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 Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-03-16 15:50:05
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Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
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They didn't add relic+3 slip, it's AF+3 again)

This is way, way better. AF+3 5/5 sets are substantially more expensive than relic, so I much prefer an AF set being the reward here. Yay.

Eh. That's not untrue. However, out of all 22 AF sets I only care about RDM. Which I got last time.

It's more valuable to get 5/5 AF+3 than relic+3 but I will not ever be unlocking dynamis divergance. Relic+3 is impossible to make and AF+3 is unwanted. It would have been nice to have the choice of either.

Vanabout 9 might have it~
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-03-16 16:03:42
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Someone who thinks VanaBout is a stupid waste of time that no one should do bumped the thread up and has 6 of the 13 (now 14) posts

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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By LightningHelix 2026-03-16 16:57:39
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
It's more valuable to get 5/5 AF+3 than relic+3 but I will not ever be unlocking dynamis divergance. Relic+3 is impossible to make and AF+3 is unwanted. It would have been nice to have the choice of either.
okay but like you know this is not reflective of basically the entire population of the game, right?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-03-16 17:01:24
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I at no point said it was, it's what I care about and I care about me

When our goals happen to align, I mention other stuff (I want free exemplar points so I make sure all my cattle know about bout!)

You can't say it wouldn't be more optimal for everyone to have the option of AF+3 or Relic+3
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By Phoenix.Enochroot 2026-03-16 21:19:36
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Someone on Discord mined what appears to be the list for this month's VB. Some of these look obnoxious so if you care about being prepared, well, be prepared. And remember, just because they're listed in this order in the dats doesn't mean they're going to be presented to us in this order.

If someone wants to go to the trouble of extracting all the items needed, they can have some Internet Points.

(edited to add spoiler)
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-03-16 23:07:53
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That's not, horrible. Damn near zero ambuscade. Only like 6 new objectives. All the rest repeats.

Some of those 6 are pretty jank though
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By LightningHelix 2026-03-17 07:13:14
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"make a HQ synth" is gonna require a lot more time investment/luck starting from 0 than the usual, surprised to see it
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-03-17 07:30:11
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It was already an objective before. 10 minute task. Practically free, maybe 50k for a stack of fire clusters.

Buy 10 stacks of millioncorn and synth it to 10. You might get the t0 HQs before even hitting t1. Especially with a rusk.

Kill shadowlord on the other hand (from zero); 10+ missions, 5 dyna clears and possibly spend an entire run not getting a bijou.
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By Phoenix.Enochroot 2026-03-17 08:20:34
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Yeah I was debating whether to post the list but the dyna objective helped me make up my mind. Imagine a whole server trying to farm a bijou. Go get them now.

The entirely luck-based one of obtaining a rune weapon from strange apparatus is probably also going to be painful, unless I'm misremembering and there's a known way to get it.

Fishing rusty items is meh, but, well, ugh.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-03-17 08:37:43
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I know nobody wants to communicate with another human being or make friends but...you can probably do the DL fight with 18 people at once, so it really shouldn't be a problem.

There's a 0% chance you can spend 2 hours in Dynamis - Xarca and not get a Bijou, unless you're on Asura and nobody teams up with anyone, just fighting to the death for the pop items.

The respawn on those NMs is basically nothing and there are shitloads of them all over the map. Most of the time there are several up at once.

If there are any issues popping DL, it will be because of player stupidity.
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By Phoenix.Enochroot 2026-03-17 08:57:56
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
unless

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stupidity
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By LightningHelix 2026-03-17 10:06:26
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
The respawn on those NMs is basically nothing and there are shitloads of them
you are way luckier than me, I always have to pop one

like we definitely agree it's a fine VB objective, it takes like ten to fifteen minutes tops, but every single time I'm poring over the widescan list like Gandalf in the libraries at Gondor and not finding anything
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By Asura.Hya 2026-03-17 10:42:12
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Phoenix.Enochroot said: »
Someone on Discord mined what appears to be the list for this month's VB. Some of these look obnoxious so if you care about being prepared, well, be prepared. And remember, just because they're listed in this order in the dats doesn't mean they're going to be presented to us in this order.

If someone wants to go to the trouble of extracting all the items needed, they can have some Internet Points.

(edited to add spoiler)
Thanks for this, it helped a lot getting the wiki page (mostly) completely updated for this round before it even starts!
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-03-17 10:55:05
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You just acquired advanced knowledge that DL kill will be a VanaBout requirement. What do you do:
A-*** on FFXIAH dot com about the stupid requirement and how congested dyna-xarc is gonna be with people hunting NM's
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B-Go prefarm a Bijou today so you can enter Xarc when the RoE hits, run across the zone, pop and kill DL, leave
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2026-03-17 14:52:32
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
You can't say it wouldn't be more optimal for everyone to have the option of AF+3 or Relic+3

I agree with this, why not just give the choice?

AF and Relic both got their +4 upgrades from Limbus at the same time, which coincided with some adjustments to make it easier to obtain them (adjustments in AF job card costs, shared instance Dynamis, etc.). The goal seems to be to make it easier for players to get to the gear that they can then further update in Limbus, as a way to help motivate players to do Limbus. Would also be consistent with stuff like the one-time Deeds of Eminence ROEs giving both AF and Relic armor rewards.

But hey, maybe they think AF is still more difficult to obtain than Relic, and the metrics probably reflect that, so that's why they went with AF again. I know that personally I'm at 100% Relic+3 completed for all my lv99 jobs, but only ~50% of AF+3 just due to the cost making some of those pieces a harder sell. The crappy relic gear ends up having dirt cheap voids/shards, so not really much of an investment to drop two vagary mats on the +3 upgrade phase for completion's sake. And anyone can just farm the Dyna voids/shards too, even more easily now with shared Divergence instance. Compare to needing a crafted item with somewhat pricey ingredients, that you might not be able to craft yourself.

Worst case scenario for me would have been if only Relic+3 was in here though. Honestly, that would probably get me to just ignore Vana'bout entirely with all other rewards being the same, but the second tier prize as a whole set of AF+3 guarantees that I'll be in at least for that. And then once they get me in, I'll probably stick around for the former gold tier to get the 3x Old Case+1 reward.

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B-Go prefarm a Bijou today so you can enter Xarc when the RoE hits, run across the zone, pop and kill DL, leave

Mmmhmmmm. Honestly, spending any amount of time in Dyna-Xarc I tend to get more Bijous than I know what to do with. I'll see a roaming NM or two and just kill them, which means I pretty much always end up with a Bijou in my mog sack, or sent to a mule as a spare for later use, etc. And that's just from stuff like the occasional ADL marrow farming run (often when people have some of the pops from Deeds), doing NMs for Relic trials, grabbing people fragments to finish an Aeonic, etc.

And hell, if getting the pop is that hard due to competition, just sit near DL pop with your flag up (assuming you get credit on other people's pops). If the competition is really that fierce, getting a party invite to stand there for a few seconds while the NM dies on someone else's pop might be easier than getting the pop item yourself.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-03-17 14:56:38
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Giving relic+3 bypasses the requirement to get clear on every job in every zone. Artifact+3 just needs a one time clear per slot which affects every job.

Yes there are deeds that give a +2 relic piece, doesnt go to +3 though.


Im not saying this is the rationale in their thought process, but it warrants consideration. Also considering relic+3 needs the community to farm void/shards and generate them for the economy, giving a freebie demotivates people from doing dyna and bringing void/shards into the community.

This reason also kinda falls flat since 90% of them fall to the floor in dynamis. pls introduce a void/shard exchange system with Aurix that doesnt involve Medals :(
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2026-03-17 15:00:07
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Giving relic+3 bypasses the requirement to get clear on every job in every zone. Artifact+3 just needs a one time clear per slot which affects every job.

Yes there are deeds that give a +2 relic piece, doesnt go to +3 though.

Great point.

But hey, even something like the i119 Relic +1 or +2 version (hell, even the ilevel 109 reforged piece) wouldn't be a bad reward for someone who needs the reforged relic armor. Even something like giving 109 relic sets from the first reward tier, then 119+3 AF sets from second tier, etc.

Still saves a lot of time and money as opposed to starting from scratch with the old 75cap pieces and upgrading them a bunch of times. And helps give something players might want to upgrade further, encouraging them to go spend time in Divergence and Limbus. I wouldn't have much use for it myself, but it would be a pretty sensible reward.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-03-17 15:11:49
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Relic+3 kupon was added to the dats, they're going to give it out, just not yet

Expected this bout, but there's always next bout, or next next (empyrean+2 for next next next)

Deeds let you skip 3/22 sets, full set of 109 119 and +2, they take TWO YEARS to get! they need more and faster. But that's another topic.
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By Bahamut.Daleterrence 2026-03-17 22:59:18
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Phoenix.Enochroot said: »
Someone on Discord mined what appears to be the list for this month's VB. Some of these look obnoxious so if you care about being prepared, well, be prepared. And remember, just because they're listed in this order in the dats doesn't mean they're going to be presented to us in this order.

If someone wants to go to the trouble of extracting all the items needed, they can have some Internet Points.

(edited to add spoiler)

I have a name, you know. (I kid, I kid!)

This is actually slightly incomplete, because of a parsing error with objectives that have more than one page in the quest UI, here's the full version with all of the plaudit rewards included.

Asura.Hya said: »
Thanks for this, it helped a lot getting the wiki page (mostly) completely updated for this round before it even starts!

I've also already fixed the wiki page with what was missing, did it earlier today.


Gonna also take this opportunity to plug the website I've been working on that I needed this data for in the first place, it's not quite finished yet but it's going to include little mini-guides for completing each objective the quickest way possible, it's not exactly aimed at veteran players who will cough and gain 20 plaudits on the inhale after but maybe someone here will find it useful.
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By Phoenix.Enochroot 2026-03-18 04:23:28
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Bahamut.Daleterrence said: »
I have a name, you know. (I kid, I kid!)

You're not who I got the list from, but I would believe the person I did get the list from got it from you originally on some other Discord.

Information like, wants to free, man.

Thank you for your service, updating the wiki, and making a lovely VB site!
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By Ragnarok.Trixi 2026-03-18 13:47:32
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I always forget about the deed system.. I have a full set of unused +1 and +2 AF and Relic sets from the first full use of deed clears, plus 3230 deeds yet used. Could have just used them after doing THF from scratch. Whoops.
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By Phoenix.Enochroot 2026-03-20 10:55:51
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Someone please remind me whether I need to wake up at 1am PST to squeeze in the first day of VB before jp midnight at 8am PST or whether the objectives now carry over and queue up so I'd be able to knock the first day and then immediately do the second day if I opt to sleep in like a normal person.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-03-20 10:57:38
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You don't need to do Day 0, they will autoroll to day 1, if you wait

You have a 24 hour window, every objective can be held off for 24 hours with the autorolling, but if you roll the next day you're ***.

(*)There is a non-zero chance of a bug screwing you. I'm stating this so you can't be mad at me for their *** up if you get screwed.

It should be fine. It is however not a guarantee. If you are a title seeker, I suggest you wake up or stay up and do complete day zero. If something happens you lost your shot again until November.
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By Asura.Hya 2026-03-20 14:54:38
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Phoenix.Enochroot said: »
Someone please remind me whether I need to wake up at 1am PST to squeeze in the first day of VB before jp midnight at 8am PST or whether the objectives now carry over and queue up so I'd be able to knock the first day and then immediately do the second day if I opt to sleep in like a normal person.
If everything remains the same, you should be able to do Day 0's objectives on Day 1, which will then roll over into Day 1's objectives. The way last round went, if you canceled or completed an objective from the previous day, you would get the current day's missed objective to replace it. I believe this only worked with a buffer of one day, so you could not just wait till the last day of the event and do everything then.

https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Vana%27Bout
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Daily objectives which are left incomplete will remain for one daily reset, then be replaced on the second daily reset.
Canceling a daily objective on the day it is received will not result in a new objective taking its place.
Canceling a lingering objective after the first reset, or completing it, will replace it with an objective which was left incomplete from the previous day.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Coronos 2026-03-20 15:20:23
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I got the title last Vana'bout. Is there a way, or a Title Bard or something, to get the title again?
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By Valefor.Philemon 2026-03-20 17:52:53
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Quetzalcoatl.Coronos said: »
I got the title last Vana'bout. Is there a way, or a Title Bard or something, to get the title again?
200 gil in Selbina.
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By Bismarck.Johnb 2026-03-21 03:33:37
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What is the easiest Comet Orb (Lv50 cap) BCNM to solo besides the Mimic one?
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Day 0 objectives are;

- Campaign Operative (Earn 1000 allied notes from Campaign Ops)
- Donations (Give Gajaad in Al Zahbi [J-6] an Imperial Bronze Piece)
- Comet Time (Win a BSNM50, uses a Comet Orb)
- Mihgo's Amigo (Give Nanaa Mihgo in Windurst Woods [J-3] 4 Yagudo Necklaces)
- Starting a Flame (Give Legata in Southern San d'Oria [K-6] 4 Flint Stones)

Items needed for Curator Moogle to complete Thanks and Come Again!

More details on my Vana'Bout site that I'm going to continue shilling because I'm proud of it and you can't stop me
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What is the easiest Comet Orb (Lv50 cap) BCNM to solo besides the Mimic one?
If you got bst the mimic is pretty much a guaranteed win. Pop SultyPatrice and enter. If you fail just have your blob spit on it a few times and you still win
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