Aeonic WS Merit Point Recommendations?

Hey,
A while ago, I completed the Deeds of Heroism requirement to get +10 extra upgrades to the Weaponskill merit category. I wanted to ask the audience for their input:

Which Weaponskills do you think are most worth the 5/5 upgrade?

I'm asking from the perspective of: "It's worth it to 5/5 an Aeonic WS because you may actually use it without the Aeonic weapon." (If you didn't know, Aeonic weapons already give the full 5/5 benefit).

Off the top of my head, I think Shijin Spiral is a good choice to 5/5 because as Monk, you can find yourself wearing different H2Hs by you'll Shijin to complete some skillchains.

Thoughts on other Weapon skills that might fit this description?

Shoha for the same reason, it's used in SCs a lot outside using aeonic GKT.

Largely depends on your job useage as its either used for its sc prop, or its a respectable ws in its own right

Shijin, stardiver, last stand, upheaval, shun, resolution fall into the latter camp imo

What Nariont said, truly depends mainly on what you play most.

I put a point into everything for accessibility (except Shijin since i'll only ever be using H2H with godhands equipped... i find nowadays that other H2H arnt worth it),
then 5/5'd Requiescat (for my BLU), Entropy and Tachi: Shoha since they're good WS's....

Then later realized I never play DRK or SAM, and that Requiescat sucks regardless of how many points it has, so I 5/5'd Stardiver (since you use it even Without the Aeonic weapon), Last Stand (same logic, mostly w/ Armageddon), and Resolution (for RUN)

At the end of the day, I'd recommend 5/5ing atleast 3 of your 'most useful' or favorite ones, then putting a single point into ones worth having access to. If you're happy to skip on the trash ones, you can 5/5 a 4th

I agree with Dexprozius.

The one's I've found universally useful to 5/5 are basically the same:
Resolution (Used by WAR and DRK)
Stardiver (Used by SAM and WAR)

Last Stand is good, although I've started moving towards other WS like Detonation instead.
Shoha.

I've done the same and 1/5'd everything for availability.

I'm currently 5/5 in Reso and Stardiver and 1/5 in everything else.

Resolution for Great Sword is kind of a no brainer. Great Sword has less Weapon Skills available to it than other weapons, since it has no mythic WS equivalent. It's also strong. 5/5

Tachi: Shoha being as strong as possible is pretty nice. It completely rounds out Samurai too, giving it all 4 Tier 2 SC properties on Great Katana. 5/5 (Course you gotta have SAM as one of your top shelf job picks)

After those it's dealer's choice. Personally I like 5/5 in Upheaval, Stardiver, and Ruinator (I'm a fool OK)... Due to limited stock though, I stick to Upheaval and Stardiver.

Currently my spread is like 5/5 Resolution, 5/5 Upheaval, 3/5 Stardiver, 1/5 Requiescat, and 1/5 Shoha. I think about getting rid of Requiescat merits all the time, but idk sometimes making Fragmentation off of it with Req into Savage Blade is great.


Also I think if you're a Ninja main, Blade: Shun 5/5 is a great choice. Though I'm pretty sure NIN mainly rotates between Naegling, the Aeonic, and Kannagi so... maybe not that pivotal.

You forgot drg in the stardiver row unless you were speaking specifically about your own jobs.

Also, I'd throw Entropy on the list for those rare scythe drks not using Foenaria or Anguta and upheaval for Laphria wars and niche uses on drk or run.

I currently have
5/5 Blade: Shun
5/5 Resolution
5/5 Requiescat
5/5 Shijin Spiral
5/5 Last Stand

I recently removed Stardiver because on SAM if I'm using Polearm it's Shining One, so that means Impulse Drive.
Shijin Spiral is used mostly for the plague effect not damage, so 1/5 would be more than enough.

Actually I've been lazy but I think I could just keep:
5/5 Resolution
5/5 Requiescat
5/5 Last Stand
and go 1/5 on everything else just for the sake of it lol?

I can tell you back in the days I tested a lot Realmrazer 5/5 on GEO and WHM melee and was very disappointed, both with spreadsheet tests and in-game.

Stardriver is useful even with Shining One for the crit evasion down effect. Worth a 1/5 for sure.

Not saying it's not useful, but I was offering the perspective of a SAM, not a DRG.
When I use Polearm instead of GKT on SAM it's tipically for the mobs in Sheol C.
Can't think of any situation where I used polearm on SAM over the last few years that's not Sheol C.
If I just want to do damage I'm gonna use GKTs after all.
So yeah, after keeping Stardiver 5/5 and never using it for the longest time, I recently removed it for 5/5 Last Stand when I levelled COR recently.
Jm2c of course.

I think the only real mistake you can make is 5/5 at the expense of at least 1/5 of a WS that you need for SC properties.

Lets riot until SE unlocks all merits....

Yes... ALL merits. Why do we have to choose in 2024 WS or Job abilities? it wont break the game

In fact let us keep expanding the maximum pool infinitely, so people can make their cap 999 and do more than 2 shinryus

Just my 2 cents

I was speaking as a Sam. I use it on Xevioso when doing RP, so it gets a 1/5 for the unlock.

If you're going War on Xevioso for a clear you'd probably want 5/5 on it.