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By Kaffy 2024-10-11 00:28:59
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Empy items being tier 1 is really nice, right on time for me.
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By Tarage 2024-10-11 03:11:08
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Is the healing for 300+ one broken? I can't trigger it on myself.

EDIT: I'm stupid and didn't read "In Ambuscade".
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By Fenrir.Zenion 2024-10-11 04:07:39
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Ah, wonderful. I see that they took absolutely none of the feedback from Vana'bout 2.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2024-10-11 05:17:25
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Fenrir.Zenion said: »
Ah, wonderful. I see that they took absolutely none of the feedback from Vana'bout 2.

Well duh, don't you remember, it was such a roaring success. We Absolutely crushed the goals so hard. We must've loved it.
10/10 would do it again - Everybody

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By Tokimemofan 2024-10-11 05:24:15
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So anyone know a practical to deal with cloudy orb fight to clear the objective. This whole thing is already pudding me off.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2024-10-11 05:29:48
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<Team up?>

BST can solo wings of fury with some effort, if you insist.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2024-10-11 05:35:14
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Tokimemofan said: »
So anyone know a practical to deal with cloudy orb fight to clear the objective. This whole thing is already pudding me off.

Shooting fish can be done by a naked smn with a few meds and no particularly complex strategy. 2 naked SMNs can demolish it.

https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Shooting_Fish/Strategies#Summoner_Solo
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By Asura.Eiryl 2024-10-11 05:44:18
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Nono, astral flow bloodpacts are the most useless thing in the game
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By Fenrir.Zenion 2024-10-11 05:55:46
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... haha, oh wow. Who's excited to claim their Old toolbox for hitting 1300 plaudits? I swear, SE, one job.
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By Tokimemofan 2024-10-11 06:04:21
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
Tokimemofan said: »
So anyone know a practical to deal with cloudy orb fight to clear the objective. This whole thing is already pudding me off.

Shooting fish can be done by a naked smn with a few meds and no particularly complex strategy. 2 naked SMNs can demolish it.

https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Shooting_Fish/Strategies#Summoner_Solo
You sir are awesome. Cleared that solo first try with my barely existent SMN

Edit: 2% of the goal so far
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By Asura.Certainly 2024-10-11 07:22:49
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Disclaimer: Personal opinion.

This is awful. Again. SO much work for so little rewards. Hard pass.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2024-10-11 07:27:29
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I don't think the intent is to make you evaluate the objectives, see the rewards, and decide it's worth it. If you are capable of doing the content, the only thing that might compare is the deeds because of time gate.

It's meant to give folks who are early game and don't know all these things exist, or folks who are sitting in town bored, a checkbox of things to do that'll get them a neat minor reward. Some people will find it fun to go out and do this forgotten content. If you aren't one of those, that's fine. If they have to cheese the goal or let us fail it, that's fine too. But, I still believe it's a positive for the game if it's getting people to experience long-forgotten content and reconnect with the game in that way.
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By Dodik 2024-10-11 07:37:19
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Yeah, some of those things no one did until Vanabout came along, like the expo battlefield thing at Delkfut.

Would these same people do it again? I know I am not. But will do the things I do anyway which are part of Vanabout.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-10-11 07:52:33
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"the rewards suck and making us do things that arent sortie or gaol or killing locus mobs for 8 hours sucks"

then dont do it? No ones forcing you.
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By Atrox78 2024-10-11 08:24:42
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
hours

Just like no one of forcing you to use Naegling?
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By Asura.Certainly 2024-10-11 08:47:47
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
I don't think the intent is to make you evaluate the objectives, see the rewards, and decide it's worth it.
Huh? Isn't this how the entire world works?
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By Shiva.Thorny 2024-10-11 08:53:33
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Asura.Certainly said: »
Huh? Isn't this how the entire world works?

The value proposition extends past the in-game rewards to the personal enjoyment derived from playing the game. If you no longer get personal enjoyment from playing the game, maybe it's time to stop.
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By Asura.Certainly 2024-10-11 09:01:00
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
Asura.Certainly said: »
Huh? Isn't this how the entire world works?

The value proposition extends past the in-game rewards to the personal enjoyment derived from playing the game. If you no longer get personal enjoyment from playing the game, maybe it's time to stop.
Absolutely not, I'm having a blast in the right content. This is just not one of them.

That these objectives are on a clock (with daily change) kills the entire thing completely for me. If they were not on a clock - and up for the entire event time without any change - I would most likely go after them slowly. But time pressure, daily, no thanks.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-10-11 09:51:45
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Asura.Certainly said: »
But time pressure, daily, no thanks.
You mean like Sheol and Sortie? lol


14 day event (15 if you're JP or stayed up late/woke up early)
you can get 150 a day from rotating goals
and 460 from non-repeatable goals

Thats a total of 2560 plaudits, and the gold tier is 1300.

Presuming you do all the non-repeatable ones (none of which are time pressure daily), that leaves you with 840 plaudits to get over the 14 days. The only pressure to clear them all every day would stem from some belief you need the VanaBout title.
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By Agrestic 2024-10-11 10:04:23
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Seeing pixies in the present day zones for the first time in many years is kinda fun.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2024-10-11 10:08:54
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First day aside - there really isn't much of a clock...I think doing a single VE ambuscade in 24 hours isn't too crazy of an ask.

Some are more onerous, like the Heroines' Combat, low level BCNM, etc. but still a 24h window isn't exactly "time pressure"
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By Fenrir.Zenion 2024-10-11 10:15:20
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So hey, who cleared Chocobo Digging, Unlocking Seals 1, Heroines' Combat, or Swarm!? Did those get replaced with something new for day 2?

Because they didn't for those of us who passed on doing those objectives, which suggests that the fall-behind mechanic from Vana'bout 2 is still in play. Oh what's that, you can't/won't do an objective? Well then you can't have a new one, spend the day contemplating your failure.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2024-10-11 10:19:46
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34 posts in 12 hours complaining about how bad it is, 0 introspection to decide not to do it. Are you depressed, by any chance?
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By Valefor.Philemon 2024-10-11 10:22:00
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Speaking of Heroines' Combat, has anybody done the objective? I wasn't getting credit clearing the ??? rune. I also went back and cleared runes 1-5, nothing.

I could have sworn that you got credit the moment you defeated the heroines in the ??? rune.
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By Agrestic 2024-10-11 10:22:33
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the only thing you fall behind on is the title. You don't have to interact with a single 30-plaudit objective to reach 1,300 plaudits in 2 weeks.
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By Valefor.Philemon 2024-10-11 10:23:44
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Fenrir.Zenion said: »
So hey, who cleared Chocobo Digging, Unlocking Seals 1, Heroines' Combat, or Swarm!? Did those get replaced with something new for day 2?

Because they didn't for those of us who passed on doing those objectives, which suggests that the fall-behind mechanic from Vana'bout 2 is still in play. Oh what's that, you can't/won't do an objective? Well then you can't have a new one, spend the day contemplating your failure.
Swarm got replaced by Mercenary Camp. I didn't get around to any other objectives.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2024-10-11 10:34:16
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What's Swarm, can someone elaborate?
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2024-10-11 10:39:58
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By Fenrir.Zenion 2024-10-11 10:40:56
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Agrestic said: »
the only thing you fall behind on is the title. You don't have to interact with a single 30-plaudit objective to reach 1,300 plaudits in 2 weeks.

I don't want to do this for two weeks. I've got... not better things to do with my time, I guess, but things I'd rather invest my time in; ideally each day I'd look at the new objectives, say "fine, fine, if I have to, hell no" and choose the ones I like, but this setup means now I have to strategize. "Is this so bad that I want to lock this slot for two days?"

There's no reason it has to be designed this way, and that is why I'm so upset about the whole thing, somebody made a conscious choice to leave it set up in a way that is hostile to players.
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By Asura.Seraphical 2024-10-11 10:43:53
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I managed to complete the following objectives earlier:

Clear an Ambuscade (10 points) > Replaced by same objective
Monster Rearing (10 points) > Replaced by same objective
Heal 300+ Damage (10 points) > Replaced by At the Summit (10 points)
Deal 500+ Light Damage (10 points) > Replaced by Treasure Hunter (10 points)
Eternal Life (20 points) > Replaced by same objective

The one's that were left uncleared remained in my list again today.
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