New Games Suck... Or Is It Just Me?
New games suck... or is it just me?
All in all, it kinda feels like they maybe used an AI to generate the remastered models, and then didn't second check changes it made that didn't quite line up with the OG.
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Kaffy said: »
Ya'll find the oddest things to get worked up about. I personally think the whole non-binary gender thing is a crock of ***but I don't spend my gaming time worrying about it. I just want to swing a sword and cast magic and kill dragons.
Gotta cry about something. So many mod packs are going to include new character models, fast start, character creation expansion, etc. I would literally never see the vanilla characters.
Kaffy said: »
Ya'll find the oddest things to get worked up about. I personally think the whole non-binary gender thing is a crock of ***but I don't spend my gaming time worrying about it. I just want to swing a sword and cast magic and kill dragons.
Not giving a ***about the small things led us to this epidemic.
Its a power grab
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
I think at some point you have to distinguish signals from problems. The body type thing is a signal, it indicates that the developers are following a certain ideology. It isn't a problem; your enjoyment of the game should not be hindered in any way by how the slider is labeled.
Ugly female characters, horribly woke writing, and such are problems. They actively hinder enjoyment of the game.
Sure, most games that display these signals also display the problems, but the signals themselves don't mean anything. Was the game itself made any worse, or is this just a nitpick?
Edit: I do recognize that boycotting a company that showcases ideology you're opposed to is perfectly valid. Doesn't make the game bad, though.
Ugly female characters, horribly woke writing, and such are problems. They actively hinder enjoyment of the game.
Sure, most games that display these signals also display the problems, but the signals themselves don't mean anything. Was the game itself made any worse, or is this just a nitpick?
Edit: I do recognize that boycotting a company that showcases ideology you're opposed to is perfectly valid. Doesn't make the game bad, though.
While I agree that signals are not problems themselves, they often indicate that there will be a problem after you pay money. A consumer who does not wish to deal with that would then use the signal as a sign not to spend limited discretionary income on a product they likely will not enjoy.
Now the signal might just be a signal of a single dev who didn't have the power to do much else, and the product might be free of the problems the consumer would otherwise expect to be there. If a consumer will or will not take that risk is a personal decision.
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Kaffy said: »
Ya'll find the oddest things to get worked up about. I personally think the whole non-binary gender thing is a crock of ***but I don't spend my gaming time worrying about it. I just want to swing a sword and cast magic and kill dragons.
Not giving a ***about the small things led us to this epidemic.
Its a power grab
If you aren't happy with power grab from the left then go promote games with male/female. If male/female wins the market then you win the power. And vice versa.
Arguing with people taking a centrist stance aren't winning more ally for you. But a lot of anti-wokes really like to do that.
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Asura.Saevel said: »
While I agree that signals are not problems themselves, they often indicate that there will be a problem after you pay money. A consumer who does not wish to deal with that would then use the signal as a sign not to spend limited discretionary income on a product they likely will not enjoy.
Now the signal might just be a signal of a single dev who didn't have the power to do much else, and the product might be free of the problems the consumer would otherwise expect to be there. If a consumer will or will not take that risk is a personal decision.
Now the signal might just be a signal of a single dev who didn't have the power to do much else, and the product might be free of the problems the consumer would otherwise expect to be there. If a consumer will or will not take that risk is a personal decision.
If you don't like to take risks, spend some time to read more reviews or use Steam refund window.
I don't think using signals to judge game quality is accurate. But for players that only pick games based on ideology, I guess it can be effective for them because they care about ideology more than quality to begin with.
Afania said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Kaffy said: »
Ya'll find the oddest things to get worked up about. I personally think the whole non-binary gender thing is a crock of ***but I don't spend my gaming time worrying about it. I just want to swing a sword and cast magic and kill dragons.
Not giving a ***about the small things led us to this epidemic.
Its a power grab
If you aren't happy with power grab from the left then go promote games with male/female. If male/female wins the market then you win the power. And vice versa.
Arguing with people taking a centrist stance aren't winning more ally for you. But a lot of anti-wokes really like to do that.
But you* dont like when non-buynary people start doing non-buybary things and complain about them being bigots when they exercise their capitalist right to vote with their wallets.
*collective you, of people sharing the same ideology, not you specifically
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I wonder if they would have made more money redoing Skyrim or if mods cover all that anyway?
It's possible they have a company policy that requires new games to follow certain 'modern' options when creating characters. Idk who actually wants this sort of thing, but if the rest of the game (BG3 for instance) is good...I also don't really care.
This strikes me as though they couldn't fully fit more dynamic character selections into the engine, so they just went with the simplest way of fitting into policy or avoiding controversy (internal or external) so they could prioritize other things. The rest of the game apparently treats you as male/female, so it's the easiest possible way of doing it and moving on, without going through and reworking all the character interactions. It's silly but compared to some of the other games out the past year or two, it's barely impactful at all.
This strikes me as though they couldn't fully fit more dynamic character selections into the engine, so they just went with the simplest way of fitting into policy or avoiding controversy (internal or external) so they could prioritize other things. The rest of the game apparently treats you as male/female, so it's the easiest possible way of doing it and moving on, without going through and reworking all the character interactions. It's silly but compared to some of the other games out the past year or two, it's barely impactful at all.
Kaffy said: »
Ya'll find the oddest things to get worked up about. I personally think the whole non-binary gender thing is a crock of ***but I don't spend my gaming time worrying about it. I just want to swing a sword and cast magic and kill dragons.
The idea that it's not important to the overarching experience is only as valid as the developers making the changes. If it wasn't important at all, they wouldn't have allocated the man power to change it in the first place.
Also there better not be any dragons to slay in Oblivion, because that'd be a major impingement on the lore!
Afania said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Kaffy said: »
Ya'll find the oddest things to get worked up about. I personally think the whole non-binary gender thing is a crock of ***but I don't spend my gaming time worrying about it. I just want to swing a sword and cast magic and kill dragons.
Not giving a ***about the small things led us to this epidemic.
Its a power grab
If you aren't happy with power grab from the left then go promote games with male/female. If male/female wins the market then you win the power. And vice versa.
Arguing with people taking a centrist stance aren't winning more ally for you. But a lot of anti-wokes really like to do that.
Lol.. Alfania providing counter argument to her own argument is always funny. First, as you can see, THEY CHANGED the gender model in a male-female game. Second, calling female and male body types is not centrist. It's as far left as you can get.
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
But you* dont like when non-buynary people start doing non-buybary things and complain about them being bigots when they exercise their capitalist right to vote with their wallets.
*collective you, of people sharing the same ideology, not you specifically
*collective you, of people sharing the same ideology, not you specifically
I don't have a preference on those ideology. However, it's my personal interest to see the game market grow and game community discussing game design related decisions that pushes the industry forward. I don't have a preference on who wins the market or power.
If a male/female game win the market, great. It aligns with my personal interest.
If a type A/B game wins the market, it also aligns with my personal interest.
If you are like Radial, who wants the industry to crash and burn, then our interest don't align.
I wouldn't stop you nor call you bigot for complaining about politics, it's your freedom. However, you also aren't contributing anything that has value that pushes industry forward either.
Go promote male/female games, or post an in-depth analyze of a bad game design on forums. then our interest aligns. It's as simple as that.
Godfry said: »
Lol.. Alfania providing counter argument to her own argument is always funny. First, as you can see, THEY CHANGED the gender model in a male-female game. Second, calling female and male body types is not centrist. It's as far left as you can get.
See my post above. I legitimately don't care who changes what or who did it first. I only care whenever people want to discuss game design related issues on a game forum you like to pop out of nowhere spamming political memes. It's annoying.
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Afania said: »
I only care whenever people want to discuss game design related issues on a game forum you like to pop out of nowhere spamming political memes. It's annoying.
The topic is New Games suck... or is it just me?
New games suck mostly because of they-them politics. Companies trying to push an agenda rather than a legitimately compelling story is the cancer of our time.
You talk about politics just as much as I do. Maybe more. I'm just good at calling out your BS. For example, see this?
Afania said: »
If a type A/B game wins the market, it also aligns with my personal interest.
What made this game successful is not body type A/B. The game was originally built as male-female. But it's convenient for your left-lunatic political agenda to pretend that the gender neutral Oblivion is brand new game that came out to avenge Concord.
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Afania said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
But you* dont like when non-buynary people start doing non-buybary things and complain about them being bigots when they exercise their capitalist right to vote with their wallets.
*collective you, of people sharing the same ideology, not you specifically
*collective you, of people sharing the same ideology, not you specifically
I don't have a preference on those ideology.
You say this on page 81 but what youve posted since page 1 tells a different story.
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Afania said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
But you* dont like when non-buynary people start doing non-buybary things and complain about them being bigots when they exercise their capitalist right to vote with their wallets.
*collective you, of people sharing the same ideology, not you specifically
*collective you, of people sharing the same ideology, not you specifically
I don't have a preference on those ideology.
You say this on page 81 but what youve posted since page 1 tells a different story.
Which post did I support specific ideology? Link it. Don't accuse me for saying something that I never do.
I am pretty sure for the entire time I support creative and market freedom, as well as advocating for accurate data when people try to guess how many copies sold. not once I called anyone bigot.
Afania said: »
If you are like Radial, who wants the industry to crash and burn, then our interest don't align.
It can be rebuilt. This wont be the first time the video game industry crashed and burned.
So despite all the crying about Oblivion, how is the game actually doing? Are your tears amounting to anything? Is it causing the video game industry to crash and burn?
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Afania said: »
If you are like Radial, who wants the industry to crash and burn, then our interest don't align.
It can be rebuilt. This wont be the first time the video game industry crashed and burned.
And how are you going to rebuild, if all you ever contribute on game forum is "type A/B bad" "woke bad" "non-buyary" kind of comment??
When concord failed plenty of people made videos and images on how to improve character designs. Many of the opinions are in fact VERY valuable.
Whenever a game failed there are always plenty of real valid critique on the internet. But those critiques are quickly buried under endless "woke bad" "non-buyary" kinda empty comment.
So what does opinions like "woke bad" "non-buyary" kind of comment do anything for the industry? I don't see value in it.
Afania said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Afania said: »
If you are like Radial, who wants the industry to crash and burn, then our interest don't align.
It can be rebuilt. This wont be the first time the video game industry crashed and burned.
And how are you going to rebuild, if all you ever contribute on game forum is "type A/B bad" "woke bad" "non-buyary" kind of comment??
When concord failed plenty of people made videos and images on how to improve character designs. Many of the opinions are in fact VERY valuable.
Whenever a game failed there are always plenty of real valid critique on the internet. But those critiques are quickly buried under endless "woke bad" "non-buyary" kinda empty comment.
So what does opinions like "woke bad" "non-buyary" kind of comment do anything for the industry? I don't see a value in it.
Forums are for the opinions, voting with the wallet is for changing the industry.
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Godfry said: »
New games suck mostly because of they-them politics
There are plenty of games, old and new, sucks without they-them politics.
Post a analyze or review explaining why those game sucks. That's more valuable than spamming political memes all day.
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Asura.Clintbeastwood said: »
Forums are for the opinions, voting with the wallet is for changing the industry.
I am not against people voting with wallet at all, it's how capitalism should be.
I am against spams that doesn't have any depth.
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Viciouss said: »
So despite all the crying about Oblivion, how is the game actually doing? Are your tears amounting to anything? Is it causing the video game industry to crash and burn?
Hopefully the game will do good. It was created before the they-them it's MA'AM time. Before you started using women's bathroom while cosplaying as a woman.
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What are total sales on Steam?
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