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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-04-10 07:54:59
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RadialArcana said: »
The only reason you know they are censoring and have this mindset is they are a remaster/remake and you can compare, new games will never have anything they consider to be problematic in them from the start. They employ western people who check everything they make to modern western standards.

Honestly, I get where you're coming from and I don't like the direction SE is taking much either. However, I think Siren is a poor example. I'm guessing she was meant to have a bikini bottom or clamshell or some sort of garment, but it came off looking like a giant yellow bush because of the graphics of the time. In this particular case, I prefer them adding the skirt. It looks better, sorry not sorry.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-04-10 08:02:00
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Shiva has the exact same "vaginal area" but blue.

Siren's does look like pubes since it's blonde. And the skirt is pretty. So it's fine.
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By Viciouss 2025-04-10 08:19:42
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Drayco said: »
Buy your switch games and then emulate them on a PC. I'm sorry to hear that you played TOTK on Switch 1... Switch emulators absolutely blow the Switch out of the water, even on low performance systems. The Switch 1 was using outdated hardware when it was released. I don't expect much in terms of hardware performance out of the Switch 2 either.

Yeah I should have done that tbh. Never really considered it, but I was feeling the Switch limitations not even halfway through the game.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-04-10 08:22:20
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Console exclusives are just so tedious when you own a solid PC. Obviously switch is the worst offender, but it's wildly inefficient to have multiple worse copies of the same device just because of exclusivity agreements.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-04-10 08:23:43
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But the money? You'll upset the money if you talk like that. It's very skittish.
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By Afania 2025-04-10 08:38:22
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
but it's wildly inefficient to have multiple worse copies of the same device just because of exclusivity agreements.

I am perfectly fine with owning a PC and play games on consoles personally. Some time ago I purchased a PC game that flat out won't launch for unknown reasons. Googled for solutions, no success. Can't refund since I launched the game for the first time past 2 weeks refund window.

My only complaint about console is the online service sub fee for games with multiple player functions, that's it.

For single player games, I prefer consoles. And I think consoles should continue to exist until PC game compatibility problem is 100% solved. I highly doubt that day will come anytime soon though.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-04-10 08:38:34
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
Console exclusives are just so tedious when you own a solid PC. Obviously switch is the worst offender, but it's wildly inefficient to have multiple worse copies of the same device just because of exclusivity agreements.
Zero reason to own an xbox if you have a PC.

What was the last xbox exclusive that WASNT released to PC?
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-04-10 08:42:03
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Drayco said: »
Buy your switch games and then emulate them on a PC. I'm sorry to hear that you played TOTK on Switch 1... Switch emulators absolutely blow the Switch out of the water, even on low performance systems. The Switch 1 was using outdated hardware when it was released. I don't expect much in terms of hardware performance out of the Switch 2 either.

While I have both Yuza and Ryujinx installed, I feel its a bit too on the nose to have a game fully emulated prior to it's release. That kinda of stuff only enrages the litigation machine over at Mario world.

Shiva.Thorny said: »
Console exclusives are just so tedious when you own a solid PC. Obviously switch is the worst offender, but it's wildly inefficient to have multiple worse copies of the same device just because of exclusivity agreements.

The last console I purchased was a PS3, everything I do now is on PC. If console publishers want to play games with exclusive titles then the community will just find ways around it.
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By Afania 2025-04-10 08:49:51
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Shiva.Thorny said: »
Console exclusives are just so tedious when you own a solid PC. Obviously switch is the worst offender, but it's wildly inefficient to have multiple worse copies of the same device just because of exclusivity agreements.
Zero reason to own an xbox if you have a PC.

What was the last xbox exclusive that WASNT released to PC?

Last time Xbox series S was on sale for $240-$250 USD in my region, I almost bought it. The only reason why I didn't was because of my very long backlog.

This bundle includes a Xbox controller and 3 months of game pass ultimate. A controller worth $60 and Xbox ultimate for 3 months is also $60 I think. So you get a gaming machine that can run most AAA games, with 0 capability issues, for $120-$130 if you exclude the controller and game pass price. While same level of gaming PC without game pass/controller could cost something like $1000.

If I need a PC to work, a low end $300-$500 PC works perfectly fine for me. So getting a $500 PC for work + $240 Xbox bundle would cover both gaming need and working need, with lower price, with better capability and better cyber security for work than paying $1000 gaming PC to do both.

The only down side is that console has less interesting niche indie titles than PC, so I still play niche titles using my low end PC. If all the niche titles that I want to play are on consoles, I wouldn't need to play games on my PC ever.
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By Drayco 2025-04-10 09:00:22
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I'm really hoping that SE sticks to what they said about exclusivity after the FF7 Rebirth and FF16 releases. I'd bet that the sales increase at launch would drastically out perform the 12-18month after release PC release numbers.

Right now the only way SE could get me to purchase FF7 part 3 is if they release PC at launch. Rebirth was such trash I have almost no interest in part 3, but I would buy it just to support a PC launch.
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2025-04-10 09:01:13
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Afania said: »
My only complaint about console games is the online service sub fee for games with multiple player functions, that's it.
Consoles are very convenient, but that's about the only edge they currently have over PC (aside from affordability; but I will never forget the PS5 initial unvailability lol)

Having to pay a sub fee just to be able to play online was the main reason I stopped playing on the PS4 since like 2016, and switched all my online gaming activity to PC.

And, by the the mid to late 2010's, console performace couldn't keep up with the newer AAA games' specs for a decent experience (compared to PC, 60 fps for action games was becoming the norm), and they would expect you to buy the later-released higher-end models like PS4 Pro and Xbox One X to keep the experience acceptable. Running Sekiro on the base PS4 was absolutely terrible, and it was a crime to play FF7R on a PS4, Pro or not.

Not to mention how games get better & more frequent sales on PC digital platforms compared to consoles (Xbox game pass is great but it's not for me). Not applicable to physical-only collectors, but I'm not one of them.
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By Afania 2025-04-10 09:11:03
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Ragnarok.Zeig said: »
Running Sekiro on the base PS4 was absolutely terrible, and it was a crime to play FF7R on a PS4, Pro or not.

I don't play multiplayer games unless it's fighting game, and I haven't play any modern fighting game for years, just retro ones.

I still beat both Sekiro and FF7R on my PS4 slim. I don't feel my core experience was hindered by PS4 slim performance much, though I play those games to experience art, game mechanics, level design, world and story, so I don't feel PS4 fps bothered me too much.

I'm mostly a story or game mechanic analyzer type of player though, so PS4 performance was really never a huge concern to me. My concern is mostly being able to experience more story/mechanics with less money/time, and Xbox + game pass is just great for that goal. It saves me the time to troubleshoot capability issues, so I can cycle through different games quicker and cheaper with game pass.
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By RadialArcana 2025-04-10 09:15:09
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From a business standpoint Square should stick with the exclusive deal with Sony, they are out of their mind to not do that.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-04-10 09:20:31
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Absolutely not. The sony bribe is way less money than non-exclusivity is worth.

If they desperately need a quarterly report bump at the expense of year over year, then yes.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-04-10 09:25:58
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Afania said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Shiva.Thorny said: »
Console exclusives are just so tedious when you own a solid PC. Obviously switch is the worst offender, but it's wildly inefficient to have multiple worse copies of the same device just because of exclusivity agreements.
Zero reason to own an xbox if you have a PC.

What was the last xbox exclusive that WASNT released to PC?

Last time Xbox series S was on sale for $240-$250 USD in my region, I almost bought it. The only reason why I didn't was because of my very long backlog.

This bundle includes a Xbox controller and 3 months of game pass ultimate. A controller worth $60 and Xbox ultimate for 3 months is also $60 I think. So you get a gaming machine that can run most AAA games, with 0 capability issues, for $120-$130 if you exclude the controller and game pass price. While same level of gaming PC without game pass/controller could cost something like $1000.

If I need a PC to work, a low end $300-$500 PC works perfectly fine for me. So getting a $500 PC for work + $240 Xbox bundle would cover both gaming need and working need, with lower price, with better capability and better cyber security for work than paying $1000 gaming PC to do both.

The only down side is that console has less interesting niche indie titles than PC, so I still play niche titles using my low end PC. If all the niche titles that I want to play are on consoles, I wouldn't need to play games on my PC ever.
Oh, so this is a financial decision? Well ok

How to run "free" games on xbox S or one: you cant (atleast I couldnt find a source telling me how to do this, but I did find a lot of sources saying its not possible yet)
How to run "free" games on PC: download and install
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By Viciouss 2025-04-10 09:30:30
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Afania said: »
Shiva.Thorny said: »
but it's wildly inefficient to have multiple worse copies of the same device just because of exclusivity agreements.

I am perfectly fine with owning a PC and play games on consoles personally. Some time ago I purchased a PC game that flat out won't launch for unknown reasons. Googled for solutions, no success. Can't refund since I launched the game for the first time past 2 weeks refund window.

My only complaint about console is the online service sub fee for games with multiple player functions, that's it.

For single player games, I prefer consoles. And I think consoles should continue to exist until PC game compatibility problem is 100% solved. I highly doubt that day will come anytime soon though.

When it comes to PS5 I am in the same boat, much prefer to play on it. But after playing TOTK on Switch and its limitations, it makes me wonder how much better it would be on PC.

Also, I walked away from Xbox after the 360. Great console, played the hell out of it. But Don Mattrick convinced me to go back to Playstation permanently.
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By Godfry 2025-04-10 09:30:39
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Afania said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Shiva.Thorny said: »
Console exclusives are just so tedious when you own a solid PC. Obviously switch is the worst offender, but it's wildly inefficient to have multiple worse copies of the same device just because of exclusivity agreements.
Zero reason to own an xbox if you have a PC.

What was the last xbox exclusive that WASNT released to PC?

Last time Xbox series S was on sale for $240-$250 USD in my region, I almost bought it. The only reason why I didn't was because of my very long backlog.

This bundle includes a Xbox controller and 3 months of game pass ultimate. A controller worth $60 and Xbox ultimate for 3 months is also $60 I think. So you get a gaming machine that can run most AAA games, with 0 capability issues, for $120-$130 if you exclude the controller and game pass price. While same level of gaming PC without game pass/controller could cost something like $1000.

If I need a PC to work, a low end $300-$500 PC works perfectly fine for me. So getting a $500 PC for work + $240 Xbox bundle would cover both gaming need and working need, with lower price, with better capability and better cyber security for work than paying $1000 gaming PC to do both.

The only down side is that console has less interesting niche indie titles than PC, so I still play niche titles using my low end PC. If all the niche titles that I want to play are on consoles, I wouldn't need to play games on my PC ever.
Oh, so this is a financial decision? Well ok

How to run "free" games on xbox one S: you cant
How to run "free" games on PC: download and install

I wouldn't give my little brother a $2k gaming pc but I will give him a cheap Xbox. And no, I'm not teaching him that pirating content is ok.
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By Drayco 2025-04-10 09:31:08
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One of the entire reasons I started this topic was because of this kind of thing. I was extremely on the fence if I should even bother getting FF16 when it launched for PC because I heard so much negative stuff about it. If it released on PC at launch, it wouldn't have been a for sure buy for me.

I feel like FF16 is one of the best FF in the entire series, but due to delayed release and braindead reviewers I almost skipped it.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-04-10 09:34:39
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Godfry said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Afania said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Shiva.Thorny said: »
Console exclusives are just so tedious when you own a solid PC. Obviously switch is the worst offender, but it's wildly inefficient to have multiple worse copies of the same device just because of exclusivity agreements.
Zero reason to own an xbox if you have a PC.

What was the last xbox exclusive that WASNT released to PC?

Last time Xbox series S was on sale for $240-$250 USD in my region, I almost bought it. The only reason why I didn't was because of my very long backlog.

This bundle includes a Xbox controller and 3 months of game pass ultimate. A controller worth $60 and Xbox ultimate for 3 months is also $60 I think. So you get a gaming machine that can run most AAA games, with 0 capability issues, for $120-$130 if you exclude the controller and game pass price. While same level of gaming PC without game pass/controller could cost something like $1000.

If I need a PC to work, a low end $300-$500 PC works perfectly fine for me. So getting a $500 PC for work + $240 Xbox bundle would cover both gaming need and working need, with lower price, with better capability and better cyber security for work than paying $1000 gaming PC to do both.

The only down side is that console has less interesting niche indie titles than PC, so I still play niche titles using my low end PC. If all the niche titles that I want to play are on consoles, I wouldn't need to play games on my PC ever.
Oh, so this is a financial decision? Well ok

How to run "free" games on xbox one S: you cant
How to run "free" games on PC: download and install

I wouldn't give my little brother a $2k gaming pc but I will give him a cheap Xbox. And no, I'm not teaching him that pirating content is ok.
You dont need a $2k gaming pc.

Pirating content isnt ok, but I can talk about a ***ton of other things that isnt ok, starting with:
Charging $90 for an incomplete buggy mess of game just to tack on multiple DLC chapters at $20 a pop
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By Afania 2025-04-10 09:40:25
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
How to run "free" games on PC: download and install


If you meant pirating, you know that cyber security risk increased by 10x this way right?

Even on Steam cyber security risk is not 0%, some time ago a game on steam got caught having malware, Valve had to send email to warn them after many people's account was hacked because of this game.

This is PC only problem, and part of the reason why I never like PC as a gaming platform: PC sharing my entertainment need and work need is way too much risk. I don't like work and entertainment overlapping on the same device and network, I prefer my work and my entertainment space separate. And buying 2 PC for 2 purposes is no different from 1 PC and 1 xbox in terms of device efficiency.

If I had a choice, I wouldn't play games on PC at all. But too many niche and retro games are PC only so I kinda had no choice.
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By Kaffy 2025-04-10 09:40:26
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as long as you don't rationalize pirating because of $90 buggy messes you feel entitled to play, sure.
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By Godfry 2025-04-10 09:45:03
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Charging $90 for an incomplete buggy mess of game just to tack on multiple DLC chapters at $20 a pop

Do you think I'm giving my little brother $99 games? Dude is gonna be playing those games that come with happy meal...
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By Dodik 2025-04-10 09:58:35
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Indeed, the better option is to not play it. There's lots of much cheaper nice games on Steam.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-04-10 10:03:22
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Afania said: »
Even on Steam cyber security risk is not 0%, some time ago a game on steam got caught having malware, Valve had to send email to warn them after many people's account was hacked because of this game.

This is PC only problem, and part of the reason why I never like PC as a gaming platform: PC sharing my entertainment need and work need is way too much risk. I don't like work and entertainment overlapping on the same device and network, I prefer my work and my entertainment space separate. And buying 2 PC for 2 purposes is no different from 1 PC and 1 xbox in terms of device efficiency.

If I had a choice, I wouldn't play games on PC at all. But too many niche and retro games are PC only so I kinda had no choice.
Skill issue lol
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2025-04-10 10:30:05
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Afania said: »
I still beat both Sekiro and FF7R on my PS4 slim. I don't feel my core experience was hindered by PS4 slim performance much, though I play those games to experience art, game mechanics, level design, world and story, so I don't feel PS4 fps bothered me too much.
I was never a graphics aficionado, but I couldn't stand Sekiro on the PS4 for 5 min lol. It strongly hurt the gameplay & immersive artistic experience. IIRC the game even had stability issues & frame drops.

FF7R, on the other hand, is a visual spectacle first and foremost. Playing it with inferior resolution, specs and framerate is such a waste.. which is why I'm not playing Rebirth till I upgrade from my current GPU.
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Afania said: »
Even on Steam cyber security risk is not 0%, some time ago a game on steam got caught having malware, Valve had to send email to warn them after many people's account was hacked because of this game.

This is PC only problem, and part of the reason why I never like PC as a gaming platform: PC sharing my entertainment need and work need is way too much risk. I don't like work and entertainment overlapping on the same device and network, I prefer my work and my entertainment space separate. And buying 2 PC for 2 purposes is no different from 1 PC and 1 xbox in terms of device efficiency.

If I had a choice, I wouldn't play games on PC at all. But too many niche and retro games are PC only so I kinda had no choice.
Skill issue lol

Yeah, it looks like $156 million global business lost per day from cyber security attacks and ransomware are all "skill issues". I wonder how many of them occured because one random employee watched porn, download games and open bad emails at work because they have "skill issues" that they must work and have entertainment on the same time?

https://cybersecurityventures.com/global-ransomware-damage-costs-predicted-to-reach-250-billion-usd-by-2031/

Look, I am well aware that there are 100 things to do to lower the cyber security risk.

But for me personally, creating a complete separate network and offline backup system entirely only for work environment, and follow the protocol all time is the easiest solution. Skills and ego and video games don't matter one bit in this case.

Edit: in my previous company, access to internet and install unauthorized software or even use USB device on work PC is banned due to security. I guess it's all "skilled issues" then.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-04-10 11:05:53
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You're not a multi-billion dollar global business.
You're not dealing with idiot employees who click on funnyvideo.avi.exe


Afania said: »
But for me personally, creating a complete separate network and offline backup system entirely only for work environment, and follow the protocol all time is the easiest solution. Skills and ego and video games don't matter one bit in this case.
I dont either. In fact I only added a separate network because our parent company forced us to install CrowdStrike on our work laptops and I dont need big bother *** snooping in on my home network.
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
You're not a multi-billion dollar global business.
You're not dealing with idiot employees who click on funnyvideo.avi.exe


Read my edit in the above post. Some companies bans external internet, software install and USB device for cyber security. That's skill issues? At least I didn't ban internet at work yet. I am already far more relaxed on those rules than my previous companies work environment lol.

Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
You're not dealing with idiot employees who click on funnyvideo.avi.exe

Don't need "multi million dollar company" to deal with that ***. Just a 5-30 people small company this ***is bad enough to manage.

And yup, I've delt with that ***already. Do you want to hear some ***story of certain virus running in the entire internal company network because reasons?

Don't underestimate people's desire on bringing virus to work environment lol. Set the rules, follow them. Make everyone else follow the same rule. It's the most logical choice IMO.
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By Godfry 2025-04-10 11:29:52
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Afania said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
You're not a multi-billion dollar global business.
You're not dealing with idiot employees who click on funnyvideo.avi.exe


Read my edit in the above post. Some companies bans external internet, software install and USB device for cyber security. That's skill issues? At least I didn't ban internet at work yet. I am already far more relaxed on those rules than other companies work environment lol.

Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
You're not dealing with idiot employees who click on funnyvideo.avi.exe


Don't need "multi million dollar company" to deal with that ***. Just a 5-30 people small company this ***is bad enough.

And yup, I've delt with that ***already. Do you want to hear some ***story of certain virus running in the entire internal company network because reasons?

Don't underestimate people's desire on bringing virus to work environment lol. Set the rules, follow them. Make everyone else follow the same rule. It's the most logical choice IMO.

You and you big-boring replies that convey nothing.

Nobody who is willing to pirate a game is gonna give a damn about what you said. It's about principles...
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By Afania 2025-04-10 11:34:13
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Godfry said: »
Afania said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
You're not a multi-billion dollar global business.
You're not dealing with idiot employees who click on funnyvideo.avi.exe


Read my edit in the above post. Some companies bans external internet, software install and USB device for cyber security. That's skill issues? At least I didn't ban internet at work yet. I am already far more relaxed on those rules than other companies work environment lol.

Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
You're not dealing with idiot employees who click on funnyvideo.avi.exe

Don't need "multi million dollar company" to deal with that ***. Just a 5-30 people small company this ***is bad enough.

And yup, I've delt with that ***already. Do you want to hear some ***story of certain virus running in the entire internal company network because reasons?

Don't underestimate people's desire on bringing virus to work environment lol. Set the rules, follow them. Make everyone else follow the same rule. It's the most logical choice IMO.

You and you big-boring replies that convey nothing.

Nobody who is willing to pirate a game is gonna give a damn about what you said. It's about principles...


Did you even read? I wasn't trying to convince nynja don't pirate, that's his decision. I was trying to say separating work space and entertainment space isn't skill issues. Nor I care if a post bored you. It's your problem.

Go outside and stop reading internet posts if it is boring to read.
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