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 Shiva.Thorny
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-04-03 07:02:27
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Nominal prices haven't remained the same, but effective prices are pretty close.

https://www.in2013dollars.com/europe/inflation/2002?amount=40

Calculator using the european CPI puts €40 in 2002 equal to €65.61 in 2025.
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By RadialArcana 2025-04-03 07:09:45
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I remember when flagship new games were £40 (2002 say) and they're now at least £60. Prices definitely have not remained the same.


Inflation, the central banks do this intentionally and aim for 2% every year. Devalue money, so prices increase.

You're paying the same (assuming you get pay rises every year inline with inflation), just that the number is bigger cause they devalued the $ - £. Massive con game, especially when employers don't raise wages inline with inflation and workers don't even know they are getting yearly wage cuts.
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By K123 2025-04-03 07:13:07
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
Nominal prices haven't remained the same, but effective prices are pretty close.

https://www.in2013dollars.com/europe/inflation/2002?amount=40

Calculator using the european CPI puts €40 in 2002 equal to €65.61 in 2025.
I was assuming games are still $60 and he was saying they're the same price. If they're not $60, what are they? $80-90?
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By Leviathan.Isiolia 2025-04-03 07:52:00
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What the hell is Fromsoft doing, why are they pushing everything to online play now? Second game in a row with a heavy multiplayer direction.

They are going to alienate their fanbase if they keep doing this.

This new game looks good visually but it's an 8 player versus game, that sucks.

To be clear, my interest in another Nightreign type thing is basically nothing as well. Not what I, personally, want to see.

That said, their vision for Souls games has always incorporated multiplayer - the only single player Fromsoft game like that since Demon's Souls has been Sekiro. It's just something a lot of us turn off.
At this point, I'm optimistic that highlighting the player count could be due to it being higher than before. SoTFS bumped things up to 6 players max, which DS3 also had. Elden Ring went down to four. Nightreign back up to 6, but for 3v3 team play.

Between that, Nintendo's touting on the Switch 2 having the online communication capability of a launch Xbox 360 (though, with a PS2 Eyetoy as well?), bigger multiplayer (a la the new Mario Kart), etc...leading with the multiplayer part could make sense at this time. Could still end up being a full Souls style game, just one that supports more robust co-op and PVP for those that want it. If they can figure out scaling outside of bosses (unlike SoTFS) that'd be just fine.

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I remember when flagship new games were £40 (2002 say) and they're now at least £60. Prices definitely have not remained the same.

Even outside of inflation, back in the day, the media cost played into it a lot. Higher capacity cartridges and/or ones with other chips could get very expensive. Seeing some RPGs hitting $70-80 wasn't unheard of, and I think the Genesis Virtua Racing port came out at $90-100. In early 1990s money.
The switch to CDs is what drove a lot of prices down, $40-50 was more the norm there. N64 stuff still often was $10-20 more expensive though, because they just cost more to manufacture.

Physical Switch 2 games are probably going to see that happen too, since there'll be a variable cost to the game card production depending on how capacious they are. If they don't just end up being license keys that is.

New normal for AAA type releases has risen to $70 on PS5/Xbox and the Switch 2 seems to be following that.
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By Afania 2025-04-03 08:07:34
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The problem with these greedy bi*ches is they do those things to make more revenue


Nintendo actually has decreased revenue since 2021, for 3 years straight. last year also declined.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2025/02/04/nintendo-switch-poised-to-break-a-massive-console-sales-record/

https://www.fastcompany.com/91272199/whats-behind-nintendos-42-drop-profits

They are probably increasing the price to counter that.
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By RadialArcana 2025-04-03 09:16:11
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Announcing or soon to be announcing sequel hardware kills sales, as soon as you announce switch 2 people stop buying stuff.
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By Kaffy 2025-04-03 15:41:48
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Fighting games pissing off fans hardcore this month. Tekken 8 season 2 and Fatal Fury City of the Wolves guest characters tearing down an already small community.
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By Godfry 2025-04-03 15:48:17
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Idk why adults still have a major problem actually not buying what they don't like. It's ok for a teen to be mad at Nintendo because they will end up just finding a way to buy stuff. To me. At the slightest inconvenience I just don't buy it. It's my money until I give it away...
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By Pantafernando 2025-04-04 06:51:01
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Before I noticed, I had invested many hours in understand the plot of Fear and Hunger and Fear and Hunger Termina.

Even though those videos I watched were always in background while I was playing, Im just heard it by chance, decided to delve deep also by chance and ended interested because it is really well made.

Seems like the game was created by a single person. Im not sure if the sequel was also a one man work.

Admitelly the first episode is carbon copy the lore of Berserk, the second one has some new interesting points, even though it feel like exhagerated at some points
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By Kaffy 2025-04-04 10:01:22
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3 part interview with miyazaki about duskbloods, can find the rest from the link here.

https://www.nintendo.com/us/whatsnew/creators-voice-the-duskbloods-part-1/
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2025-04-04 10:44:45
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yo...

I really like monster hunter after beating the story.
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By Viciouss 2025-04-04 11:00:45
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Someone post the breaking news from Nintendo
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-04-04 11:02:57
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I assume it's going to cost $600 now, happy liberation

Or something to that effect. Maybe more. Maybe they won't ship them to the states at all, *** us.
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By Afania 2025-04-04 12:54:08
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Viciouss said: »
Someone post the breaking news from Nintendo


Isn't just Nintendo, I've heard that tons of cargo ships no longer leave port because the moment they enter the US border, they lose money.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-04-04 13:07:35
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On the bright side eggs are going to look cheap by comparison.
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By RadialArcana 2025-04-04 13:09:36
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>cargo ships

Think of all the oil saved, saving the planet like a champ.
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By Viciouss 2025-04-04 16:40:51
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Nintendo delays Switch 2 pre-orders indefinitely

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Following President Trump unveiling his controversial new tariff plan, Nintendo has announced that it is delaying US preorders. Originally scheduled to start on April 9, a Nintendo representative has since confirmed this date has been pushed back indefinitely in order for the company to "*** the potential impact of tariffs and evolving market conditions." As such, it is likely we will see an sizeable increase in the console's price before it is relisted.

The full statement, which was given to GameSpot via a Nintendo spokesperson, can be found below:

"Pre-orders for Nintendo Switch 2 in the U.S. will not start April 9, 2025 in order to *** the potential impact of tariffs and evolving market conditions. Nintendo will update timing at a later date. The launch date of June 5, 2025 is unchanged."

Just raise the price of the console in the US and point the finger at one person.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-04-04 16:45:04
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I'd keep all the money, tell the buyers to come get it. Bring your *** here and pick it up. No shipping. No refunds. Eat ***.

If they raise the price 24% (or 46% vietnam packaging plant) It's going to cost over $600 for a handheld. That's a nonstarter.

Oh and semiconducters and related products are going to get another tariff soon. So even more.
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2025-04-04 16:50:14
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on an unrelated note: gonna buy 8239489234 Switch 2's and upcharge

O Capitalismnada
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-04-04 16:58:48
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The most likely answer is they come into western canada or california bypassing all tariffs.

What happens from there, is hard to say. Changes ships in international waters maybe. Airdrop the cargo boxes into bestbuy parking lots to bypass ports.

It's too much money to not be looking for loopholes.

it may even honestly be as simple as shipping "engineering samples" to their american buildings. Then shipping them out from there.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-04-04 17:05:04
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Vietnam is already caving to the tariffs lol.

Keep up slowpokes
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By Viciouss 2025-04-04 17:16:06
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
The most likely answer is they come into western canada or california bypassing all tariffs.

What happens from there, is hard to say. Changes ships in international waters maybe. Airdrop the cargo boxes into bestbuy parking lots to bypass ports.

It's too much money to not be looking for loopholes.

it may even honestly be as simple as shipping "engineering samples" to their american buildings. Then shipping them out from there.

They will just raise the price for Americans. It's the easiest thing, especially since they have the scapegoat right there.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-04-04 17:24:30
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Thats the only thing that absolutely wont happen. people don't care WHY it costs $700 they'll only care that nintendo is charging $700 for it. That's financial suicide.

(unless they manage to negotiate it down to 10%)

Consoles are historically loss leaders. They take the loss on the switch2 to sell $90 games for profit. If they just say april fools the price was $300 then it's like nothing happened.
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By Afania 2025-04-05 03:47:30
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Thats the only thing that absolutely wont happen. people don't care WHY it costs $700 they'll only care that nintendo is charging $700 for it. That's financial suicide.


It's okay, if Americans don't like Nintendo's price, they can make their own switch 2 in their own American factory. (Same can be said for every other import. Time to make your own American shoes, your own American T-shirt, and grow your own American coffee plants.)

The rest of the world will enjoy Japanese games the normal way.
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By RadialArcana 2025-04-05 03:50:14
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We live in the most decadent society the world has ever known, where people fight to donate money to millionaire streamers so they can see their name on the screen.

If a luxury hobby item is unique and "worth it" it, won't matter if it's $100 more.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-04-05 07:25:54
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RadialArcana said: »
If a luxury hobby item is unique and "worth it" it, won't matter if it's $100 more.

We're talking Nintendo, too. The last console they released that didn't have a thriving market for scalpers was the Gamecube..
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-04-05 07:34:50
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If they were just going to go with it, they wouldn't have halted the pre orders
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By Asura.Vyre 2025-04-05 11:52:31
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Chanti linked this in RT, mistakenly.

Nintendo pulls Switch 2 pre-orders in US over Trump tariffs
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By RadialArcana 2025-04-05 12:08:11
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It's crazy that a Japanese company has factories in China and Taiwan to make the consoles, then ships them to the US.
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By Godfry 2025-04-05 12:13:14
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RadialArcana said: »
It's crazy that a Japanese company has factories in China and Taiwan to make the consoles, then ships them to the US.

It's crazy when the USA says "*** that" and start imposing tariffs on this BS.
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