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By Felgarr 2023-08-01 00:51:40
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Shiva.Larrymc said: »
I just tried an attempt throwing a bunch of low damage weaponskills at it until horn broke - and got metal!

BLU/RDM with support roll only COR.

Used Expiacion to keep AM3 up with tizona.
then spammed vorpal blade.

3452 Vorpal Blade broke the horn.

The aura was down ( had been for quite a while ) when the horn broke.

After horn broke killed it as fast as I could and got metal.

Took almost 20 minutes though - there must be a faster way to break the horn.

Your post triggered my memory. Ixion's mechanic sounds exactly identical to the horn-breaking mechanic on Imps when trying to learn Frenetic Rip.[1]

I have not tested this but wanted to summarize some parallels:

1.) Vorpal Blade > Vorpal Thrust is mentioned a reliable mechanic to break the Imps horn.[2]
2.) The level difference between the player and the Imp (Ixion?) are factored into the likelihood of breaking the horn. (What are your Master Levels folks?)
3.) Blunt damage is also mentioned as are reliable method for breaking[3]
4.) The Imp only uses Frenetic Rip when it's horn has been broken. It regain it's horn later. When the horn is broken it will cease using Abrasive Tantara and Deafening Tantara and only use Frenetic Rip. This sounds like Ixion's Aura: using Wrath of Zeus or Lighting Spear. (Dansel Memento to remove the aura).[3]

[1] See: https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Frenetic_Rip
[2][3]: https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/5275/dam-imps/
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By Pantafernando 2023-08-01 01:37:24
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Maybe for "production environment", having everyone spamming WS with low dmg until it breaks can eventually break the horn.

Equip a lv1 weapon and go to town on it.
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By Shiva.Larrymc 2023-08-01 02:15:21
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Tried another experiment - went SCH/RDM - with support roll COR.

Used SC/MB to get it under 50%, then switched to shattersoul spam to break horn.

Horn broke and got the box. (Already had the metal from last run, but the box showed up).

Still took 20 min.

I think you zerg it under 20% perhaps then everyone spams low damage ws until horn breaks, then kill it?

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By Shiva.Larrymc 2023-08-01 03:30:56
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For what it is worth, here are the videos of my two successful metals, one on BLU/RDM, one on SCH/RDM
BLU/RDM horn breaks at 26:29
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SCH/RDM horn breaks at 24:59
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By Asura.Aragan 2023-08-01 06:49:01
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The horn!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2023-08-01 07:29:04
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would ws's and/or ja's that force crit help speed it up?
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By Asura.Saevel 2023-08-01 07:43:41
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Shiva.Flowen said: »
If it was just crits with aura up there would be loads of reports of it breaking by pure chance

I think the semi-serious joke was that it was bugged and ninja-fixed in a recent update.
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2023-08-01 08:03:09
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CDC seems like it would be perfect for this over vorpal.
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By Shiva.Myamoto 2023-08-01 09:27:16
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Shattersoul isn't a Crit ws sooooo there's that lol I mean maybe crits are still a thing, but clearly a sch self skillchaining and mbing most and then using shattersoul spam near the end doesn't suggest crits. If anything I would lean more towards attack rounds at this point. More simultaneous attack rounds higher chance of breaking horn? Asuran Fist spam ftw!? I watched the video of Larrymc on SCH and his chat log at the time of breaking has no auto attack crits and shattersoul clearly breaks the horn.
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By Nariont 2023-08-01 09:34:44
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Seems related to WS' more than it is crits, though unless im mistaken you still have to go through a series of auras to allow it to be broken at all to begin with.

Sure its been tried already but does thunder possibly speed up the charge, as said there has to be some way to speed up the process
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By Asura.Cthaeh 2023-08-01 10:20:09
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If 2-3 people hit the same ws together it seems fo force the charge. We noticed this the other day, last night we used a bit of a variety of ws and only saw 6 auras.

Next we are just gonna acc up with 99 weapons and go to town
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By Bahamut.Unagihito 2023-08-01 10:26:00
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All of the WS that have broke it, so far, seem to be multi-hit WS and have scission/grav/darkness SC properties.
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By Asura.Illuminate 2023-08-01 10:48:30
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So from what we know so far:

1.The aura is not a requirement to break the horn
2.You can break the horn with blunt or slashing damage
3.Low-damage weapon skills break the horn
4.Once you break the horn, the chest is guaranteed
5.Any type of damage before and after breaking the horn has no effect on chest drop (aside from having to break it with low damage ws)

Does this sound correct?
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By Sylph.Timepassesbye 2023-08-01 10:56:54
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Bahamut.Unagihito said: »
All of the WS that have broke it, so far, seem to be multi-hit WS and have scission/grav/darkness SC properties.

vorpal blade is scission/impaction, when the horn broke it was presumably earthday as the beginning of the video was 20:00 fire

shattersoul is grav/induration, only darkness with the aeonic weapon, and it broke on watersday. He's def using the mythic, not aeonic.

not suggesting anything, just reporting the particulars of the ws/day.
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By Asura.Cthaeh 2023-08-01 10:59:56
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Red herring, I did it on watersday with Savage only
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By Asura.Eiryl 2023-08-01 11:07:01
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Savage Blade is Scission.

But I doubt it matters. Use scission/grav/dark ws properties is convoluted. Sword is just heavy on scission properties and it's being done by redmages.

It's also silly that it's a species specific condition. Unless the naraka is also stance specific.
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By klayy 2023-08-01 11:54:19
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I just looked at the 2-3 minutes before break on both larry's videos. Im still not totally seeing something that leaps out to me. Still every break happens without the aura up. So that might be a condition. In the SCH video the horse uses wrath of zeus and the horn breaks within a minute which has been a semi-occuring theme. In the vorpal video though, I feel like the horse does charge/wrath then does the same combo again a minute later and maybe a minute-plus after that, horn breaks.

So really my only thought on speeding this up would be to try force horse into aura, wait till its use wrath than try to bludgeon it with i guess lvl dmg WS. If its not that then idk, its just persistance and luck and this is just gonna take 20 minutes every time? But I can't see that.. you know, unless it is bugged lol
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By Asura.Cthaeh 2023-08-01 12:09:22
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Don't have time to watch again and check my count, but it breaks on ws #20 I believe
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By Pantafernando 2023-08-01 12:45:48
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Savage Blade is Scission.

But I doubt it matters. Use scission/grav/dark ws properties is convoluted. Sword is just heavy on scission properties and it's being done by redmages.

It's also silly that it's a species specific condition. Unless the naraka is also stance specific.

Not convoluted, but i actually think quite smart.

There is one aspect all videos i saw so far share (both from Larry and the japanese guy that is on youtube):

Horn always broke after a WS with skillchain property that makes a lv2 skillchain with current day element:

1st video from Larry he used Vorpal in fireday: vorpal has impaction. Impaction with liquefaction = fusion.

2nd video from larry he used Shattersoul in watersday: shattersoul has indurstion. Indurstion with reverberation = fragmentation.

The japaneses guy seems to have started on lightsday. He used vorpal blade. Vorpal blade has scission. Transfixion with scisson = distortion.

Maybe coincidence, but there is a trend here
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By Pantafernando 2023-08-01 12:49:42
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What about…..

50% dmg with WS whhich skillchain property makes lv2 skillchain with days element from the moment of claim?
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By Odin.Bangla 2023-08-01 13:15:52
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Pantafernando said: »
What about…..

50% dmg with WS whhich skillchain property makes lv2 skillchain with days element from the moment of claim?
My unsuccessful kill was me doing nothing but Savage Blade on Darksday. What would you make of that? If I understood you correctly, Savage Blade would only work as a proc on Fire, Water and Windday?
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By Sylph.Timepassesbye 2023-08-01 13:19:15
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Pantafernando said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Savage Blade is Scission.

But I doubt it matters. Use scission/grav/dark ws properties is convoluted. Sword is just heavy on scission properties and it's being done by redmages.

It's also silly that it's a species specific condition. Unless the naraka is also stance specific.

Not convoluted, but i actually think quite smart.

There is one aspect all videos i saw so far share (both from Larry and the japanese guy that is on youtube):

Horn always broke after a WS with skillchain property that makes a lv2 skillchain with current day element:

1st video from Larry he used Vorpal in fireday: vorpal has impaction. Impaction with liquefaction = fusion.

2nd video from larry he used Shattersoul in watersday: shattersoul has indurstion. Indurstion with reverberation = fragmentation.

The japaneses guy seems to have started on lightsday. He used vorpal blade. Vorpal blade has scission. Transfixion with scisson = distortion.

Maybe coincidence, but there is a trend here


When the horn broke in the first video it was earthday, not fire.
The video started at 20:00 fire, so 12 minutes later it turned to earthday and 15 mins after that, the horn broke. It's possible the time of agro is what sets any "proc" mechanic like with abyssea mobs. if that's actually the mechanic. I'm inclined to think there is some kind of damage threshold considering there are other places in sortie where that has already been observed and thus far, there hasn't been anything revolving around specific elements/weapon skills.
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By Pantafernando 2023-08-01 13:20:37
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Savage blade dont make lv2 with compression. Still dont contradict my hypothesis.
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By Odin.Bangla 2023-08-01 13:31:57
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Pantafernando said: »
Savage blade dont make lv2 with compression. Still dont contradict my hypothesis.
In this video the horn breaks to Savage Blade on what looks like Lightningday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj1WW8rU5IY&t=107s
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By Pantafernando 2023-08-01 13:41:11
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Now that you mention, indeed it seems like lightningday.

It has that kanji over it, i thought it was lightsday.

Then it contradicts my hypothesis
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By Bismarck.Leneth 2023-08-01 18:04:29
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towards the end of Watersday upon defeat.
Job BLU/WAR
trusts: Moogle, Brygid, Sakura, Sylvie, Ygnas

Fight: AM3 was up, brought it to under 15% with Savage Blade => Expiacion skillchains.

from here on out:
Vorpal Blade: 4619
Acheron Kick
Vorpal Blade: 5625
Wrath of Zeus
From this point on I WSed in TP gear to bring Vorpal Blade damage below 5k.
Vorpal Blade: 2953
Rampant Stance
Vorpal Blade: 1940
Acheron Kick
Vorpal Blade: 2683
Rampant Stance
Vorpal Blade: 3285
Vorpal Blade: 2998
Acheron Kick
Savage Blade: 2994 << Horn Broke

Fighting time was a little less than 10 Minutes, Diffusion was about to come back, which I used before pulling.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2023-08-01 18:23:07
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Low damage ws's is the epitome of kill it slower instead of zerg it (page 3)

Put on gimmick weapons spam the highest hit ws you have (rampage/ruinator/vorpal/DE/AF/Penta/Ku) till break, then zerg it

Or zerg it to 20% then spam gimmick ws's
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By klayy 2023-08-01 18:26:52
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yeah idk if dropping it down fast then hitting it with low dmg ws would be preferable to attempting the low dmg stuff at start. Issue is i've yet to see a horn break over 50% but if this is to be done in any kind of timely fashion, dropping it to idk 30% right away then just barraging it with trash ws could be the way.
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By Asura.Illuminate 2023-08-01 18:36:28
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Bismarck.Leneth said: »


towards the end of Watersday upon defeat.
Job BLU/WAR
trusts: Moogle, Brygid, Sakura, Sylvie, Ygnas

Fight: AM3 was up, brought it to under 15% with Savage Blade => Expiacion skillchains.

from here on out:
Vorpal Blade: 4619
Acheron Kick
Vorpal Blade: 5625
Wrath of Zeus
From this point on I WSed in TP gear to bring Vorpal Blade damage below 5k.
Vorpal Blade: 2953
Rampant Stance
Vorpal Blade: 1940
Acheron Kick
Vorpal Blade: 2683
Rampant Stance
Vorpal Blade: 3285
Vorpal Blade: 2998
Acheron Kick
Savage Blade: 2994 << Horn Broke

Fighting time was a little less than 10 Minutes, Diffusion was about to come back, which I used before pulling.


Fu**in awesome dude! Less than 10 mins - I'm gonna try and get my static to do this together.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2023-08-01 18:51:54
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That's the main thing I think, everyone doing this so far has been solo yes? If it's about # of WS/Frequency/Random chance to break adding more people will make it faster.
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