AM3 Addon Request

Did CDC get buffed?

That is just a ws bot, and you're like 90% of the way to a stand alone addon.

it is crazy that people just post bots willy nilly these days.

My bad, seemed like a pretty harmless request

I wonder if that logic would make gearswap a "gear swapping bot".

You're not completely wrong...

But even so, there are degrees of automation. There's obviously a difference between a fancier version of a core function in the base game in the form of /equipsets and in-game macros, and something where you don't even have to manually WS.

Is there? You automate significantly more functions than a single button press by using gearswap, especially if you use more complex scripts. If anything, I'd argue that autows is the less invasive addon, if you want to be a purist about this.

By the way Sel's GS does pretty much what you want. It allows to easily toggle both WS and aftermath on/off. I think it does it only for mythics by default, but it can be changed for other REMA without much trouble if you can manage to change a few lua lines.

Also the way it goes now on the future level updates, do you realy wanna party for more then 30 hrs to get from master level 30 to 40. The amount of time and mxp is insane. Not many peeps willing to do that manualy. In some way SE is encouraging poeple to use bot programs. Wait till we get 40-50 then it will take a month of fulltime mxping to get there lol.

it's not a bot if it's in your gearswap file
/s

Then why play the game at all?

People really complaining about a month to cap something when it used to take people years to cap their level, ffs.

actually is

Maybe because we were hoping for engaging content that didn't involve mindlessly killing Apex for 50hrs/job (unless you're cleaving Apex). It's not 2002-2010 anymore. A lot of us don't have that kind of time, especially if you have many jobs. I, for one, did not really want to spend my free time this way. Why defend a system that doesn't respect your time? This is pretty bad, even for SE.

Alternatively, what content exists today that would require you to zoom your jobs to master level 3 billion in 10 minutes? This whole argument is self defeating. You hope for engaging content, then steam-roll through it, then complain about not having engaging content. Maybe the ML grind is BECAUSE of ya'all's tendency to do this... not in spite of it.

To help further this beating of deceased horses, the difference between Gearswap and a bot, as far as FFXIAH is concerned, is what is tolerated at large by the public. Gearswap allows for bots, yes, but it isn't what it was designed to do, and the public does not consider what it is designed to do to be verboten. Anyone with knowledge of the Lua language and the Windower API can write a bot in Gearswap the same as they'd just write the Lua addon itself. This is because of how Lua is implemented in to Windower, not an inherent and unique function of Gearswap. Calling Gearswap a bot is equivalent to saying the dictionary is a masterful poem because you can put together the words it contains in to a coherent work as the rules of the English language allow that to be done. Kinda misses the point of what the dictionary is for.

And to the OP:

I think most people think LUA is just a file that gearswap uses, not realizing that lua is what the language is called.
Edit: Changed this cause I was wrong bout what it stands for.

let's all remember (ok, mostly those bashing things like Windower/Ashita) that both were created out of player necessity.

-/wait times did not allow for proper swapping of the gear SE gave us and allow it to function.
-macros were limited to 6 slots of gear swapping per macro and equipsets did not yet exist.

I'm not saying that a tool cannot be used far beyond its intended purpose. A hammer is meant for creation and building, but can easily be turned into a tool for violence, destruction and death. Do we fault the hammer manufacturers? Of course not, we blame the monster who beats someone to death with a hammer.

I completely agree with earlier comments that most of the Windower/Ashita bashers have no clue what they are or how they work, they just have an echo chamber full of assumptions that have metastasized into "their" truth. I get the arguments that we're "not playing the game as SE intended"...but we are playing it based upon the world they built and then did not give us the proper tools to use what they gave us.

I think we have different definitions of "necessity." Macros were limited to 6 slots of equipment and wait times were (are) limited such that you have to wait after doing an equipset before you can change again. These are built into the game and you can complete content within those limitations.

If you can't, or don't want to, then sure go ahead and mod the game so it's easier for you, but don't pretend like it's necessary or impossible to play as it is, because there are players who play vanilla so your point is moot.

Yup. This is why "discussions" about Windower/Ashita always devolve. We start from different assumptions about intended design.

-Those in favor of these platforms see SE giving us 16 gear slots and since gear is what the game is built around, limiting our ability to swap all slots in 1 action seemed backwards.

-Those against them fall back on the initial design features you mention.

And since we start from such different origins, finding an understanding between such diverse groups is almost impossible. We'll always view the vanilla crowd as being held back by bad design, and the vanilla players will always view Windower/Ashita players as botters/cheaters.

Not going to say one side is 100% right, and the other is 100% wrong....but one side does have history of SE implementing features of Windower into the game years after they've been proven as improvements to fall back on.

EDIT: you also are 100% correct there are amazing vanilla players out there. I've had the luxury of playing with them myself on multiple servers in multiple scenarios. Windower and Ashita aren't cheatcodes to success and good play. The brain behind the choices made in-game will always be the final verdict on whether a player is good or not. Windower won't fix bad sets, bad knowledge, or bad techniques.

This was a legitimate post requesting am3 gs logic, in the windower forum and has a pretty good answer above from Akkarinn. Why has it devolved into “gearswap is bots!!!” thread? /sadness

I really like the logic that was provided, and just might have to use it myself - thanks!

Because people here (internet in general also) are starved for new and engaging conversations, unfortunately that will turn into a derail in a heart beat once all the basic conversation about the specified topic have been exhausted.

Pretty sure it's moon in portugease.

Gearswap was designed for automating certain actions. As is the code OP was asking for. I just find the fact that people happily tolerate and use certain kinds of automating tools, but then go ahead and write these faux indignant posts about others, on a forum devoted to automating addons of all places, to be some somewhat comical, to say the least.

Speaking about these forums specifically, the sharing of tools for afk character progression or other blatant subversion of game mechanics has always been against the rules. There just haven't really been moderators here for the past several years.

this is correct, it is named after the Portuguese word for the Moon, also it is NEVER supposed to be spelled "LUA" as it is not an acronym

it says as much on the languages web site

what about your LUA?


edit: sorry, not sorry. I'll go now.

Yes.

nope


It literally wasn't as it was requesting a bot.


I find it comical that people can't tell the difference between a legit action and a blatant bot then get indigent and elitist about it.

Gleti's set.

a script automating a button press (an equipset macro)
A script automating a button press (a WS macro)

Hm, yes, much different, wow.

I mean, you won't ever catch me saying that any addon isn't cheating so don't get me twisted here but...
There's a difference between "when I press my WS macro, or use a JA, gearswap pretends I had included an equipset" and "without doing anything at all, my character executes an action".

If you put in the code above, your character can execute a WS while you're making a drink in the next room. That seems slightly more botty than your average gearswap.