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 Odin.Creaucent
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By Odin.Creaucent 2022-04-22 19:45:48
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Siren.Sandraa said: »
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$360 to play a 20 year+ old game with no new content being added.... did you get dropped on your head as a child? 500k-700k active players to release expansion *** LOL, ignore my previous question i found the answer to it.

It would be a "Remake" I think you forgot to read the part when I said it would be made for PS5, SERIES-X and PCs with 10 teraflops of power. The animations, graphics, lighting, shaders would look according to a 2023 title and you also forgot to read, It will be created the unreal engine 5.

If it would cost 50 dollars every 6 months and 360 in 3 years. Most of all of us pay for 2-3 accounts and it's already 36-39 bucks per month, plus most of the FFXI players are people over 30-40 years old. Which have much more resources than the "Children" who play fortnite.

I don't think so much hostility is necessary, just because you don't like the idea, relax.

Nope i read that but what you are suggesting is a remaster..... my point still stands no new content, no new story and not worth the price. 3 accounts is $1080 and i dont think many people playing XI are going to want to spend another $1080 just for some shiny graphics.... hell i can just go play XV if i want to look at something pretty with no substance.

I know you think I'm a "Pendejo" and that I have no idea what I'm talking about. You think that I am an Indian who comes from the farthest mountain from civilization and I have been using the internet for 3 days.

Remaster is "Pass the old and obsolete PS2 code" to DX12 and put FFXI with the same engine-graphics in 4k / 60 FPS and 2k / 120 FPS. This costs 60 USD, period, nothing more as "support" for the project

My post is a REMAKE, if I can give you an example something similar to FF7-ORIGINAl with FF7-REMAKE. Basically FF14 would look like an old game next to FFXI-REMAKE, that's why I suggest that each expansion is sold at 50 USD.

The only thing that would stay would be the "Combat" system "The gear swap" and the mathematical formulas that are used in FFXI-Normal. But everything else you would see a change from a game from 2002 to 2023.,

Ok so you liken your "remake" to FFVIIr but FFVIIr has a lot of new systems, new combat and new story like its a completely different game. Your "remake" is simply improving the graphics, which might i add, FFXIV is getting for FREE in the next expansion.
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2022-04-22 20:18:12
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Siren.Sandraa said: »

lots of other dribble prior...


I could go on but these are the things that put our beloved FFXI in the state where she is right now an "ONLINE-RPG" with multiplayer, removing dynamis wave 3 and some escha monsters. This is a 6 player game 99% of the time

Have a good day and please do not forget take your valerian + clonazepam before posting k? look your hand and eyelids tremble, don't get a tachycardia.

1. None of us really need a laundry list of mistakes SE made. But the fact they made them does not justify the money required to remake the game better. That's not what any of this has been about. So get with reality, realize you love a 20 year old game, and enjoy it for what it is, because that's all we're getting.

2. Hey thanks for the trembling hands joke! This epileptic felt included. By the way its Levetiracetam.
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By koyote 2022-04-22 20:35:10
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A 4th maneveur for Pup !
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By Draylo 2022-04-22 22:30:22
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Do yall get paid to be negative 24/7? lol let people dream, its not hurting anyone.
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By llAKs0nll 2022-04-23 01:04:47
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Do y’all actually ever GROW dafuq UP and eventually cease the childish pathetic personal Insults towards others or do you stay acting like Children attacking others until you’re 90+ years old instead?

20 year old game. Y’all should be acting like Adults towards one another by now……. Just saying
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By Bismarck.Oldmancebi 2022-04-23 01:56:12
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Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »
5.- Currently, square exclusively makes content for 6 people. Any LS with groups of 10-15 people must be doing "double runs" and it's super annoying, hiding like a *** goes to cheat on his husband every noon is not fun just to make content with your 6 friends sending the rest of the LS to the "*** Street".

Yeah.. that does make me kinda sad. Miss being able to do events with 12~18+ people. I wish Odyssey didn't have a 6 party limit. Would rather have fun with a group then have a guy with 4~6 accounts quantify drops.
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2022-04-23 03:27:15
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Bismarck.Oldmancebi said: »
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5.- Currently, square exclusively makes content for 6 people. Any LS with groups of 10-15 people must be doing "double runs" and it's super annoying, hiding like a *** goes to cheat on his husband every noon is not fun just to make content with your 6 friends sending the rest of the LS to the "*** Street".

Yeah.. that does make me kinda sad. Miss being able to do events with 12~18+ people. I wish Odyssey didn't have a 6 party limit. Would rather have fun with a group then have a guy with 4~6 accounts quantify drops.
Someone didn't piece together the series of quotes fired back and forth properly. Find my comment saying that without a quote box mis-copypasta'd.
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By RadialArcana 2022-04-23 04:06:24
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FFXIV is the most highly monetized game that exists, it's monetization per player is about 10 times what XI is taking advantage of.

Don't compare XI to XIV, also barely any of that money goes back into the game either so we are actually doing pretty ok all things considered.
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By Musashi232 2022-04-23 04:49:15
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Do yall get paid to be negative 24/7? lol let people dream, its not hurting anyone.
i mean we have not seen anything new in a couple of years except mastery, Odyssey cant be considered new, its just old NM's Recolored in WOE
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By Musashi232 2022-04-23 04:56:45
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RadialArcana said: »
FFXIV is the most highly monetized game that exists, it's monetization per player is about 10 times what XI is taking advantage of.

Don't compare XI to XIV, also barely any of that money goes back into the game either so we are actually doing pretty ok all things considered.
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By Draylo 2022-04-23 07:02:31
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Do yall get paid to be negative 24/7? lol let people dream, its not hurting anyone.
i mean we have not seen anything new in a couple of years except mastery, Odyssey cant be considered new, its just old NM's Recolored in WOE

I meant as far as attacking people who have desires and positive wishes for the game. Doesnt make much sense trying to bash anyone that is listing what they like to see
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By Odin.Creaucent 2022-04-23 07:21:26
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Draylo said: »
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Do yall get paid to be negative 24/7? lol let people dream, its not hurting anyone.
i mean we have not seen anything new in a couple of years except mastery, Odyssey cant be considered new, its just old NM's Recolored in WOE

I meant as far as attacking people who have desires and positive wishes for the game. Doesnt make much sense trying to bash anyone that is listing what they like to see

The "bash" was the insane price tag for a graphical upgrade. Do you want to pay another $360?
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By RadialArcana 2022-04-23 07:24:43
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They won't do it if you offered $1k so why get mad about it.
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By Draylo 2022-04-23 07:29:03
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Lol probably not the right person to ask. Id be willing to pay quite a lot to get them to care about XI again and get it an expansion. Too bad they would never accept money from crowd funding and the only person capable of doing anything is probably that guy who plays minecraft, but he only likes the 75 cap XI
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By Odin.Creaucent 2022-04-23 07:56:32
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RadialArcana said: »
They won't do it if you offered $1k so why get mad about it.

Quite the opposite actually i found that post highly entertaining it was just completely insane and by the looks of it quite serious. I was going to brush it off as a troll post hence the troll response.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2022-04-23 08:01:31
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RadialArcana said: »
FFXIV is the most highly monetized game that exists, it's monetization per player is about 10 times what XI is taking advantage of.

Don't compare XI to XIV, also barely any of that money goes back into the game either so we are actually doing pretty ok all things considered.

XIV cash shop is sus but trying to imply that its monetization is worse than or even equal to a run of the mill Korean mmo is disingenuous. Can spend $1000s on Lost Ark and still not have creme of the crop gear. That ***heap even makes you buy a separate currency just to be able to buy things off the auction house.

That said it's also one of the most popular games around right now and thousands of people happily eat ***like it's chocolate and spend their life savings to buy equipment so they can try to enter the next boss fight. Games are not made for people like us who expect a complete package at time of purchase anymore and they never will be again, so need to either accept that or find a new hobby.
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By RadialArcana 2022-04-23 08:23:17
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Lost Ark cash shop is bawls but you don't need to spend money to play the game as a shitter / normal player or just login, the only people spending money are those that are impatient and/or epeeners who want max ilevel when you don't even need max ilevel for the content. Getting max ilevel on LA via cash shop whaling is like getting capped Ody gear to do VH Ambuscade, you don't need it to do the content.

Regardless, I and most people are a lot more lenient of free to play games because it's optional and you know what you're getting into when you download a f2p game.

XIV has the worst monetization in any mmorpg because it pretends it's one thing and then ends up being something else, content like housing also encourages players to get and decorate things and risk losing them if they dare to unsub.

Anyway lets not make this about XIV for pages, I know you like it and will defend it, you know I don't and will pick at it. So lets just say its a sub game with a cash shop, which sucks (for most people with 11 players mindsets) and leave it at that.

Point was, don't compare XIV to XI cause it's not fair since it brings in so much more money via micro transactions.
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By llAKs0nll 2022-04-23 12:46:23
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Odin.Creaucent said: »
Draylo said: »
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Draylo said: »
Do yall get paid to be negative 24/7? lol let people dream, its not hurting anyone.
i mean we have not seen anything new in a couple of years except mastery, Odyssey cant be considered new, its just old NM's Recolored in WOE

I meant as far as attacking people who have desires and positive wishes for the game. Doesnt make much sense trying to bash anyone that is listing what they like to see

The "bash" was the insane price tag for a graphical upgrade. Do you want to pay another $360?
You shouldn’t be intentionally attempting to make someone feel ashamed of their opinions or less than equal via verbally humiliating them looking down upon them & attacking their person.

You couldn’t just disagree w/o verbally attacking them?
Like come on, man. You think that’s signs of Maturity while we all 40+ years old nowadays? Ain’t none of us 16 or 18 or 20 years old any longer so why we still talking to others as if we cannot debate w/o insulting one another? Y’all ain’t the only ones whom do such but it is indeed rather pathetic IMO being our age nowadays. We ain’t a bunch of lil punk kids any longer.

HINT : If you wouldn’t say such to a random stranger in RL w/o fears of the consequences having your teeth knocked out then it’s probably NOT ok to talk to someone like such over the Internet from a Safe Space location. Seriously…….. that’s some extreme BS
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By Asura.Meliorah 2022-04-23 13:36:46
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wtf am I reading holy ***lmfao.
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By Aoibhe 2022-04-24 01:14:20
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I don’t think we’ll be seeing one big event, I think we’ll see a year of smaller events like they did with the 11th anniversary. It’ll culminate a year from now with the end of VR and that’s when we will see the empy +3 gear.

My money is going on a year of events, starting monthly on the 20th.
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By Leviathan.Andret 2022-04-24 02:43:29
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Idk, whether they will upgrade the graphics or whatever or not, I would still be paying 60 bucks for my characters. Even though I might cancel them every once in a while. Sure it's expensive but hey, it's my money and I probably don't have anything else better to play if I have to resub.

Though it's probably a good idea for them to get motivated to create content as far as I am concerned because I would only resub when I think it's interesting. Right now, I don't think Odessey is that interesting, too much grinding for my taste.
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By Bahamut.Mhysa 2022-04-24 11:05:31
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Can I just expect them to let us AH more than 7 items? :( Give me 10-12, I look like a hoarder :(
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By GwenStacy 2022-04-24 11:37:24
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race change please god
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By Fenrir.Zenion 2022-04-24 20:05:10
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Aoibhe said: »
I don’t think we’ll be seeing one big event, I think we’ll see a year of smaller events like they did with the 11th anniversary. It’ll culminate a year from now with the end of VR and that’s when we will see the empy +3 gear.

While that sounds entirely plausible, didn't they already announce the Empyrean +2/3 upgrades as being planned for 2022?
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By Sylph.Snk 2022-04-25 10:27:19
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Siren.Sandraa said: »
I would plan the REMAKE this way.

I would release it in UNREAL ENGINE 5, for PS5, SERIES-X AND PC. With a minimum of Specs 3.5ghz, 8 core cpu / 16 virtual cores, 16 gb ram, 10 Teraflops GPU and a speed 2.5 GBS SSD. For people who don't have "Money to buy a GAMER pc" just buy a PS5 DIGITAL at 399. "It will not be released for SERIES-S, XBOX-X, PS4-PRO" to avoid hw-limitations in the future.

The base game would cost 60 USD and each expansion would cost 50 USD.

January to June 2023 FFXI base = 60 USD
July to December 2023 Rise of zilart = 50 USD
January to June 2024 Chains of promathia = 50 USD
July to December 2024 Treasures of Aht Urhgan = 50 USD
January to June 2025 Wings of the goddess = 50 USD
July to December 2025 Seekers of Adoulin = 50 USD
January to June 2026 Unity, escha, Dynamis D, Omen, odyssey etc. = $50

The errors that would obviously be CORRECTED

1.- To enter abyssea you will need LV75 "NEVER ENTER LV 30"

2.- The atmas and crour buffs will be removed in "Abyssea" the content will be mid-core

3.- In VW the proc system will be eliminated, the atmas and buffs will be eliminated.

4.- In Seekers of Adoulin, WEAPONS with combat skills will not be introduced and the REMA will be indisputable top, plus the content will be midcore and will not be casualized.

5.- In the current content, it will be thought for 6, 12, 18 versions, without BUFFS in play, everything will be midcore.

6.- In 2026, all content from previous expansions will have an ILV 140-145 mode with horizontal progression coexisting between all expansions.

7.- All the REMAS will be BALANCED so that their difference in damage is less than 2% and ALL them will be viable.

8.- Every 2 years expansions like WoW will be released if the title manages to maintain at least 500k-750k active players and a sub 15 USD FFXIV & FFXI model will be created to support the game

9.- The current FFXI servers will still be active for people who are not "interested in the remake" even if the remake will have the SAME combat system, progression, gear, items etc.

10.- In the FUTURE expansions the classic races of the medieval tales would be added. "ORCS" "DWARFS" "ELVES", plus races from other Final fantasy games, like the RONSO from FFX, the VIERA from FFXII etc.

11.- Although all the content would be planned to be played in 6, 12, 18. A point system would be added, in which you can advance "Solo". Example

Inside of OMEN you can get a BODY-AF with a group in 5 runs.
There will be an OMEN solo player version, in which you can get that body in 40 hours of grinding with your "Trusts"

ABSOLUTELY all the content can be farmed alone, but obviously it will be 40, 80, 120, 160 hours, depending on the "Quality".

12.- Group finder, duty finder, cross server parties, multiple channels, etc. would be added. Everything a modern 2023 game would have.

13.- The game will include EASY-ANTI-CHEAT

14.- Naoki YOSHIDA or JEFF KAPLAN will lead the project of course.

15.-The game will have a modern "Quest" system like FFXIV, plus new dungeons and raids obviously. With horizontal Gear that can co-exist with the classic content of the game.

So some of these "ideas" are downright terrible.
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Sylph.Snk said: »
Basically all of these "ideas" are downright terrible.
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By Shiva.Humpo 2022-04-25 11:18:21
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This reminds of my ex. It started out as a bad idea and the more I looked at it, the worse it became.
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Tell me you know nothing about game development, without saying you know nothing about game development.
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By Shichishito 2022-04-25 15:33:44
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1. they've been hyping 20th anniversary for multiple years and teased most of the folliwng one way or another already so it's the bare minimum we can expect even tho we'll probably get it drip fed instead of with one big update:
- at least one new/reskinned, maybe multiple, endgame zones that will be source for the black relics, empy +3 armor as well as other augmentable equipment* with random rolls.
- 2 new jobs*, one beeing chemist as it's already been teased with monberaux, similar to what we've seen with sylvie and GEO.
- a town/city similar to adoulin as a hub for new endgame content. (this one is admittedly pretty iffy but i don't see SE introducing new jobs with zero backstory/lore and a place they belong to.)

2. here are the maybes but wouldn't get my hopes high:
- new trusts from the VR story line with AI so infuriating that we'll not find any use for them over our current ones outside of very niche occasions.
- new crafting recipes.
- a couple new spells.
- continuing/finishing of job adjustments for those that haven't been adressed yet.



*the random roll aug equipment and second new job simply cause they'll be a valuable stepping stones for selling you wardrobes 9-12 a couple of years down the line. maybe we'll even see random augments on accessories, who knows.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2022-04-25 15:48:12
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Shichishito said: »
- at least one new/reskinned, maybe multiple, endgame zones that will be source for the black relics, empy +3 armor as well as other augmentable equipment* with random rolls.
pretty likely

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- 2 new jobs*, one beeing chemist as it's already been teased with monberaux, similar to what we've seen with sylvie and GEO.
sylvie the npc was introduced in march 2013 at the same time adoulin launched and geo was released, unity wasn't until late 2014, so not sure what you're going for there

i doubt we'll see new jobs, it took them years to balance geo and run decently as is

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- a town/city similar to adoulin as a hub for new endgame content.
would like to see it, but a town that size needs quests and it's own mission line. if TVR didn't hint at it, i'd say it's pretty unlikely we get anything bigger than say, selbina or mhaura. imo, they'll probably just pin a random entrance npc in kazham and call it a day.

Shichishito said: »
- new trusts from the VR story line with AI so infuriating that we'll not find any use for them over our current ones outside of very niche occasions.
- new crafting recipes.
- a couple new spells.
- continuing/finishing of job adjustments for those that haven't been adressed yet.
agree with all of these
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