Matsui-P

so glad SE is focused clearly on golden bomb mounts and temporary-release Trusts.

It was told to them that's acceptable by the base

i feel like we're in a DBZ episode(s), whole lotta bs filler between actual events.

Here comes SE with our subs:

Excellent. Time to test him in Odyssey. AATT already hit 17k MB, let's see if Matsui-P can top that.

The only issue I currently see with him is his Debuffing AI, I engage and the first 25 seconds of every mob is spamming spells.

Indeed that's always a nuisance. That's why they need gambits... I don't need paralyze on mobs I kill in 1-2 ws.

But it is what it is.

I keep seeing this thread pop up and I read "Master-P"... always piques my interest, but always lets me down...

SE introduces a MasterP Trust, and I'll take back all comments about wasting time on temporary trusts.

To be fair you don't need Matsui-P for that either

To his point, Trusts would be so much more useful if you could turn on or off certain actions. Sometimes they get in their own way because they are programed to do things in order (algorithm) and get stuck in that loop. If you only use koru for Haste2 and Dia 3, it would be nice to turn off every other action of his so he isn't wasting time NOT doing the two things you need him to use. Or at least prioritize him to always do those 2 first, then whatever else.

Next time limited trust need to be the bald galka PUP/RNG.

Just following up on this point. They copied Ayame's WS algorithm exactly, even down to his poor WS logic. Matsui-P will attempt to WS out of range if he has TP, causing him to lose TP. He won't run in to WS if he gets locked behind his AI of casting debuffs. Ayame (as well as a few other trusts) will do this exact same thing if you cast her last or she isn't near the monster, which is silly. Apparently they forgot to make the logic perform a distance check before firing off the WS. So dumb.

Also, I agree that his casting AI gets in the way a lot. He casts 2-3 spells (sometimes more) every single fight at the beginning, and won't run in to fight until those spells are done. I think its Yurin > Aishi > Burn > (buffs). He'll add his own buffs (Utsusemi /Migawari/Myoshi/Kakka) if it's not on him, so he spend a good 15-20 seconds before taking his first swing. He will, however, interrupt his routine if there is an active MB window, so he prioritizes that right away.


Anyways, he's pretty fun as my nuking companion, he fills exactly what I like to do on NIN, which was WS > WS > MB x2. He's weaker for sure, but his extra damage is pretty nice, and he's basically unkillable with shadows. with MM, he kills most mobs if my SC doesn't, which let's me just focus on spamming WS. If he gets TP, you do have to let him open, because he will sometimes clash with your own WS, and he'll never attempt to close your SC (this is not true, he will close your SC at the very last millisecond of your SC window).

Uses Stun intelligently for TP moves, as mentioned earlier


This was his best damage at MM40 in Sheol A Floor 3

Chaos+Fighters

no they need to add Tanaka as a ranger with a nerf gun

You know it's going to end up being RNG/PUP instead...

It's going to be a hume male named Odoro that throws rocks.

Will most likely be his doppelganger Odoro accepting trade requests and stealing items from the mobs.

and with the Gilfinder trait

It's a NIN with a throw weapon ability... (ala FFT)

....he throws REMA weapons at mobs.

When I used this trust, he never once set up, or used a single ws. He would mb when I did my own sc, and stunned tp moves consistently. No idea why he wouldn't ws for me (i always use ayame when doing ws quests, so I'm familiar with how it should work)

Could be a logic bug, possibly copy pasted shantoto II but didn't fix the "move into range" logic since she doesn't "melee"

Did you call him after a whm, or was the party setup abnormal etc

Provide more information. What job were you? Did you summon him first, last, in between so that he was out of range and couldn't get tp for ws? If you have alter ego chat enabled, did he announced "skillchain ready!" Or "use a fragmentation (or other element) weapon skill"? I just used him last night in Odyssey with shantotto 2, and he both opened and closed with me only, but never her.

I was on thf, and i can't remember what order i summoned. I think it was first, he was definitely auto-attacking though. I summoned sylvie, ygnas, arcelia I, and ulmia as well. I can see the trusts speaking, and matsu-p only ever said his summon text.

I tried using various ws, thinking the ones he had access to weren't compatible. Used shark bite, rudras, mstab, and evisceration. I then just gave up.

Could be glitched. if he wasn't giving you messages about SCs, could be a bug. Try again and see if he uses it. Change the trust order and see if maybe one of the other trusts are causing him to behave that way. I'll try it on THF later with the same trust setup (don't have Ygnas).

Odoro trust would have no actions but uses steal and mug on CD but keeps the items.

I tried again, and he seemed to work normally. I used different trusts this time, so that could have been it. But, it was most likely a bug. My first try was all in one zone, so who knows.

Yeah, that first time, he never said "Ready for Skillchain" or anything, was weird.

Which zone was it? They have weird bugs in the game.