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By Forewarned 2020-06-11 10:00:53
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Leviathan.Draugo said: »
What would be good data to know is, how much Gil is on the books right now. Factor in how much an alliance of bots could generate over a week maybe, prenerf.

There should be some ratios you could work out with those numbers compared to current prices. Could maybe get a gauge of how much Gil sinks were pulling out also.

Then try to estimate how much an alliance of bots can generate now. May give you an idea of what the new cost of things may settle out to.

I would out of curiosity like to know how much total Gil is out there. Might also be able to figure out the rate of deflation.

I put together a little of this math yesterday when trying to work out the new profit margin for RMT.

Assumption 1: 17 accounts with 16 characters on each, 1 account with the “PL” who is doing all the work for generating sparks / accolades. This could be less if the theory of deleting characters and restarting them happened.

Assumption 2: All accounts previously paid for, so are on a normal monthly fee rather than the initial free month that comes with new accounts. This price could be reduced further if they are in their initial month and the codes were purchased during the discount campaign.

Investment cost
18 x 12.95 = $233.10
17 x 15 = $255
Total monthly investment = $488.10

Assumption 3: All 16 characters on the gil maker accounts cap out sparks/accos weekly, which given how quiet the zones were for gain-exp last night wouldn’t take long even if you were doing this manually. This would mean 2m per mule per week.

2 x 17 x 16 + 2 (for the PL) = 546m gil per week
A 4 week month = 546m x 4 = 2.184bn gil per alliance per month

If this is the only factors then the “cost” to the RMT per million gil would be 488.1/2184 = 22.35 cents / million

If they removed the need for 15 mules and can run it off the single character slot the cost per month reduces to $233.10, meaning the cost per million is 233.1/2184 = 10.67 cents / million

This final calculation is based off them being able to cap the sparks / accolades 16 times per account. If they are able to do any more than that per week by rerolling then the investment per million is driven down even further.

TL:DR – RMT are still going to make a killing off these changes, which is what we knew already..
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By Asura.Sechs 2020-06-11 10:11:02
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You forgot to take into account other various generic expenses.
Electricity, salaries for the employee of your RMT, I'm not sure if there can be other expenses?

No clue if this would create minor or major differences in your numbers though.
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By Forewarned 2020-06-11 10:13:50
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Asura.Sechs said: »
You forgot to take into accounts other various generic expenses.
Electricity, salaries for the employee of your RMT, I'm not sure if there can be other expenses?

No clue if this would create minor or major differences in your numbers though.

I suppose that goes along the lines of stuff that I don't know the value for. If it's just one guy operating this then the assumption would be the difference in gil price to the cost would be his "salary". But yeah the fixed costs are gonna play a small part in increasing it..
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By JemTitan 2020-06-11 11:46:10
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all ya'll talking about RMT and the economy zzzzz

Nobody notice new level 1 items that gives water MAB+30?

Blade: Teki HYPE!
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By Shichishito 2020-06-11 12:11:37
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lvl 1 item with water mab +30? RMT mules sure should wear one while shedding those salty tears.
also wear one while raining on RMT parades and pissing all over their graves.
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By Asura.Sechs 2020-06-11 12:23:21
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JemTitan said: »
Blade: Teki HYPE!
Suuuuuuure...
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By Pantafernando 2020-06-11 12:32:49
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Draylo said: »
Anyone figure out what the new mog enhancement does?

Now you asked, i decided to do a few games, and managed to unlock all ??? there. There rewards are quite good, just the game is super time consuming

Painting of a mercenary: 30j
12 Pinches of pungent powder: 10j
12 Pinches of pungent powder II: 10j
12 Pinches of pungent powder III: 10j
Cooper A.M.A.N voucher: 30j
Special Gobbiedial Key: 30j
Dial Key #Fo: 30j
Silver A.M.A.N voucher: 30j (once a real day)
Dial Key #ANV: 30j(once a real day)
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By Pantafernando 2020-06-11 12:35:10
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Eh.... is this kinda broken, isnt it?
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By Odin.Naytan 2020-06-11 12:42:11
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The FO and special key are just unlimited?
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By Pantafernando 2020-06-11 12:42:57
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Till people start exploiting and emergency maint for sure

So far 2 SP and 7 Fo, checking if there is a cap
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By Pantafernando 2020-06-11 12:50:02
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BTW is the red chest near gob another seasonal event?

Kinda hilarious they giving out Akitu and Crustacean shirts out of nowhere "free to take"... 2 shirts suposed to come after more than 11 months farming deeds lol.
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By Shiva.Humpo 2020-06-11 13:24:49
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Pantafernando said: »
Draylo said: »
Anyone figure out what the new mog enhancement does?

Now you asked, i decided to do a few games, and managed to unlock all ??? there. There rewards are quite good, just the game is super time consuming

Painting of a mercenary: 30j
12 Pinches of pungent powder: 10j
12 Pinches of pungent powder II: 10j
12 Pinches of pungent powder III: 10j
Cooper A.M.A.N voucher: 30j
Special Gobbiedial Key: 30j
Dial Key #Fo: 30j
Silver A.M.A.N voucher: 30j (once a real day)
Dial Key #ANV: 30j(once a real day)

I was kinda curious if this event was going to be worth it or not. shame the silver vouchers are once a day..
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By Pantafernando 2020-06-11 13:41:05
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Its extra 18 vouchers and 18 anv keys for the campaign.

Its actually great if youre farming omen stuffs

Just time consuming as f...
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By Sylph.Funkworkz 2020-06-11 13:42:40
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Pantafernando said: »
BTW is the red chest near gob another seasonal event?

Kinda hilarious they giving out Akitu and Crustacean shirts out of nowhere "free to take"... 2 shirts suposed to come after more than 11 months farming deeds lol.

Yeah, they always give away previous "exclusive" anniversary items during subsequent anniversary events. They just dont mention it anywhere. The stat moogle is also in the usual spot with the exp/cp rings and the leaf bench/astral cube.
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By Pantafernando 2020-06-11 13:45:19
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Nice. Its just once to choose or you can get as much as you want?
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By RadialArcana 2020-06-11 13:55:29
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God this moogle event is awful, its not fun to play, it's boring and it takes ages. Is there a bot to play it for you or something? xD
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By RadialArcana 2020-06-11 14:02:01
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Isn't Dial Key #ANV the same as a special key but with a different name?
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2020-06-11 14:02:08
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Pantafernando said: »
just the game is super time consuming
You're not kidding
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By Pantafernando 2020-06-11 14:04:24
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RadialArcana said: »
Isn't Dial Key #ANV the same as a special key but with a different name?

Nope.

ANVkeys have omen rewards in the pool.
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By Asura.Zidaner 2020-06-11 14:16:42
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So nobody ever answered the question about the new moghancement.. what does it do? o.o
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By Bismarck.Laurelli 2020-06-11 14:18:36
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Shichishito said: »
lvl 1 item with water mab +30? RMT mules sure should wear one while shedding those salty tears.
also wear one while raining on RMT parades and pissing all over their graves.
Wow, so much hate. Just do like me and don't buy gil.
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By tyalangan 2020-06-11 14:23:17
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Remember when SP dials handed out relic shards/voids like candy then they just...disappeared. I think that was the only time SP dials have been worth anything. Yet I continue doing them for the rare and elusive nq JSE neck.
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By Pantafernando 2020-06-11 14:26:25
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They arent common but not the rarest though. Well i supose with a pool of over 80+ different shards lol.

Hope someday SE will allow convert shard to medal (like 2 shards => 1 medal)
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By Shichishito 2020-06-11 14:50:38
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Bismarck.Laurelli said: »
Wow, so much hate. Just do like me and don't buy gil.
i never bought gil. i recommend you try hatin on RMT, too. now is a good time to do so.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2020-06-11 14:51:05
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This game cant handle too many people doing it at once

I literally just got kicked out of a game I was gonna win.


No ending dialog of any kind, but im out of the game. Unless it has an invisible timer, I'm trying to play 3x at once.
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2020-06-11 16:04:56
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
This game cant handle too many people doing it at once

I literally just got kicked out of a game I was gonna win.


No ending dialog of any kind, but im out of the game. Unless it has an invisible timer, I'm trying to play 3x at once.

Happened to me once as I was about to win as well. Bit of a *** piss off.
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By RadialArcana 2020-06-11 16:59:46
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So:

Whites are worth 1, blacks are worth 2 if you went first and 3 if you went 2nd, pink and green are worth 3 if you went first and 4 if you went 2nd?

Blue squares are your opponents squares.
Red are your squares.
Yellow are controllable by both.

The point is to get mandragora to your bar, you get points for each one you bring "home"

If your move brings a mandragora home and has no excess you get another go.

So if you have 1 mandy on 5 and 2 mandy on 4 and 2 mandy on 3. You can pick 5 (1 point), get another go then 4 (2 points), get another go then pick 5 (3 points) and get another go etc.

The scores are top left (they often seem to bug out though), when one player cannot make a move (no mandy on yellow or their color squares) then whoever had the most points win.

Every 3 wins unlocks the next tier?

It's really annoying and the later opponents are asshats.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2020-06-11 17:04:28
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RadialArcana said: »
Whites are worth 1, blacks are worth 2

For a second there I thought we was in the lets start a riot thread...
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2020-06-11 17:07:07
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Bismarck.Nickeny said: »
RadialArcana said: »
Whites are worth 1, blacks are worth 2

For a second there I thought we was in the lets start a riot thread...
Lmao same here.
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By Valefor.Maurauc 2020-06-11 17:14:53
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The moghancement is pretty cute. I don't know if it has any actual effects, but you do get a bunch of Mandragora running around in the breeding grounds.

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