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Corona Virus, How has it affected your area so far?
 Bismarck.Nyaarun
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By Bismarck.Nyaarun 2020-04-20 17:49:38
There are other nonviolent criminals that need to stay in prison, like human traffickers and pedophiles.
Pedophilia by itself isn't a crime, what you're referring to are sexual predators and they along with human traffickers are both violent offenders.
Says the guy who calls himself a libertarian, don't make me laugh.
What's with all the freaks trying to low-key make pedophilia sound like it's not that big a deal? "pedophilia isn't a crime." - nyaarun. "pedophilia by itself isn't a crime." - jet. You're gonna trigger nyaarun's semantics reaction by claiming that "sexual predation" is a crime. Already clarified that rape and assault of anyone of any age is a violent crime. There are a lot of nonviolent crimes related to pedophilia and child predation, and if you release all criminals who committed crimes that the DOJ considers to be nonviolent, you'd be releasing them. What a degenerate *** side you guys have taken and tried to argue.
You literally do not understand what the word violent or violence means if you think anything related to child predation is nonviolent.
I think what he's saying is things such as viewing pedo pics on your PC is definitely pedophilia and criminal and you go to jail for it as you should, but the act of simply viewing pics isn't violence, but you are still one sick *** and may (studies show most likely will) act on your urges if left unattended among the general public. That kind of "non-violent" offender should not be let out for any reason.
Studies show only about 50% or fewer of pedophiles act on their urges, and most know its wrong and that they need help. Most cant seek help because being labled a pedophile is generally debilitating, even if youre trying to actively seek help.
Also, only about 50% or fewer sexual assaults on children are by actual pedophiles. Sexual assaults are rarely due to sexual attraction. This is true for all sexual assaults, not just against children.
 Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-04-20 17:51:18
Incorrect. Possession falls under sexual exploitation which falls under sexual assault which falls under violent crimes.
You're talking rules made up by men(and women) and how breaking them has been classified as punishable by those same men(and women).
I'm talking about literally, staring at a picture, no matter the subject, literally is not a violent act. Unless they suddenly since poundmetoo completely changed Webster's definition of violence which...these days, wouldn't surprise me.
Eh, it’s one of those things where the end act is not necessarily a violent offense, but people that created that image by exploiting children are guilty of a violent offense, so by consuming the end product you are potentially an accessory to the crime. I’m not sure how that all works out in actual law, but I believe that’s the idea. Obviously there are places where you can get said pictures on the internet for free so you may not think you’re contributing to the problem, but quite frankly I don’t think your typical judge will care and will probably err on the side of protecting children.
Asura.Veikur
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By Asura.Veikur 2020-04-20 17:56:08
ITT: FFXIAH becomes a pedo defending forum Interesting mental gymnastics there.
By abknight 2020-04-20 17:57:08
nyaarun and jet, can you just explicitly state whether or not you believe people convicted of pedophilia-related crimes (violent or not, whatever, however you classify violence) should be kept in prison or released? You've muddled and derailed the entire discussion by apparently trying to defend pedophilia.
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By Odin.Senaki 2020-04-20 17:57:19
Well, this topic changed quite severely.
I'm just gonna fan the flames based on my understandings. I don't think pedophilla by itself is a violent crime. Acting on such urges is certainly illegal, but the manner that it's acted on changes the degree of punishment/'violence'.
Violent - Using or involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something. (Google)
So if they are viewing real kids, yes it is a violent crime because those kids were likely coaxed into it. But what about drawings? For some reason 'loli' images are wide spread in the anime community, the legality of which is still questionable (some people argue it is A OK, others find it disgusting).
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Bismarck.Nyaarun
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By Bismarck.Nyaarun 2020-04-20 18:00:48
nyaarun and jet, can you just explicitly state whether or not you believe people convicted of pedophilia-related crimes (violent or not, whatever, however you classify violence) should be kept in prison or released? You've muddled and derailed the entire discussion by apparently trying to defend pedophilia.
A prison sentence and ideally rehab to deal with their problems and eventually released and monitored, like every other violent crime. No one here is defending the act of child molestation, there is a difference between understanding the nuance of a situation and defending a sexual assault.
Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-04-20 18:04:32
Well, this topic changed quite severely.
I'm just gonna fan the flames based on my understandings. I don't think pedophilla by itself is a violent crime. Acting on such urges is certainly illegal, but the manner that it's acted on changes the degree of punishment/'violence'.
Violent - Using or involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something. (Google)
So if they are viewing real kids, yes it is a violent crime because those kids were likely coaxed into it. But what about drawings? For some reason 'loli' images are wide spread in the anime community, the legality of which is still questionable (some people argue it is A OK, others find it disgusting).
I’m honestly not sure how I feel about the legality of “loli” stuff. Certainly not my cup of tea, but does it help by giving pedos an outlet that doesn’t involve real children, or does it fall into gateway drug territory that only leads more people to the real stuff? /shrug. There’s probably research out there, but that’s not the kind of thing I want in my search history....
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Asura.Veikur
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By Asura.Veikur 2020-04-20 18:07:30
ITT: FFXIAH becomes a pedo defending forum Interesting mental gymnastics there. Interesting pseudointellectual snide comment there. You're the one who somehow made the connection that pointing out that the innate nature of being a pedophile (which does not require ACTING on that attraction) isn't LEGALLY a crime somehow equates to defending pedophiles.
You can't be locked up for <insert crime here>, regardless of your innate predisposition to committing <insert crime here>, until you at least attempt to commit <insert crime here>.
By abknight 2020-04-20 18:14:48
Quote: And while the world relies on China for hardware, China avoids software dependency on outsiders by creating substitutes: TikTok to replace snapchat, Weibo instead of Twitter, WeChat & RenRen for Facebook. Indeed, there is an alternative Chinese version for almost any platform. This entire post is incredibly dumb, but this one made me laugh.
First of all because all tech companies steal from each other, especially social media platforms.
Secondly because, having taught Chinese students for years and having seen them using things like Weibo and WeChat I have seen that they were miles ahead of Facebook and WhatsApp for years. If anything FB and WhatsApp steal their features. I know you wouldn't know this though, because you live in some 99% white area while hating the boogeyman non whiteys and have never even spoken to a Chinese person outside of ordering a takeaway, but the nonsense you regurgitate is embarassing. Interesting to see you post one of your sources of "education" finally though.
Racist alert! It's always weird to see the types of people who scream racism about everything, actually be racist themselves. Some kind of mental disorder or profound lack of self-awareness. A lot of times it's people hating their own race as an extension of their own self-loathing, because they're personally a failure or their daddy wasn't nice to them.
He "taught" English to brown first graders though and he saw them using knockoff apps, so your whole article is DEBUNKED. Social media apps rip each other off, so your article primarily about US dependence on goods manufactured in China is TRASH. You've been DOMINATED Kireek. Wow. This is literally the worst trash I have ever seen posted on a forum ever.
kireek is an outward racist, pointing that out isn't "seeing racism everywhere and in everything". I don't teach English, and they cannot logically be "knock-off apps" if they have the features first. Please try comprehending what has actually been written before posting garbage. You clearly haven't even read the article which kireek posted either, but clearly you have no intention of speaking like an educated adult so rant on.
You assumed kireek’s skin color and judged him for it, assumed he lives in an area with people predominately of the same skin color and judged him for that, and literally used the term “whitey,” which is a racist term. You’re a racist, just own it. I don’t even care if people dislike other races. Almost everyone is racist to some degree. Just own the fact that you’re a racist, by your own words.
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By Odin.Senaki 2020-04-20 18:16:02
Well, this topic changed quite severely.
I'm just gonna fan the flames based on my understandings. I don't think pedophilla by itself is a violent crime. Acting on such urges is certainly illegal, but the manner that it's acted on changes the degree of punishment/'violence'.
Violent - Using or involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something. (Google)
So if they are viewing real kids, yes it is a violent crime because those kids were likely coaxed into it. But what about drawings? For some reason 'loli' images are wide spread in the anime community, the legality of which is still questionable (some people argue it is A OK, others find it disgusting).
I’m honestly not sure how I feel about the legality of “loli” stuff. Certainly not my cup of tea, but does it help by giving pedos an outlet that doesn’t involve real children, or does it fall into gateway drug territory that only leads more people to the real stuff? /shrug. There’s probably research out there, but that’s not the kind of thing I want in my search history....
Hell, I get weirded out when watching an anime and seeing a young-ish looking girl sexualized. I steer away from shows that focus on that. But it does make me curious about the laws behind it. Hell, Netflix and Hulu have some pretty devious anime shows.
And yeah, I'm not googling it either!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-04-20 18:16:27
Why doesn't someone make a pedo thread to discuss child porn and loli instead of ruining a coronavirus thread with it? Well, pedophilia is a type of disease, so.....
Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-04-20 18:20:47
Could be more productive to post the way you want other people to post instead of only complaining about the way that other people post.
That being said, I’m going to try to attempt to get back on topic....
I’m in Arizona and have been forced to work from home for a while. Today we had some corporate communications already hinting at upcoming plans to get people back to the office. I’m not sure how to feel about that yet, but I really hope they don’t jump the gun when working from home is almost just as effective as being in the office.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-04-20 18:34:08
Hell, I get weirded out when watching an anime and seeing a young-ish looking girl sexualized. *sneakily listens in*
I steer away from shows that focus on that. *walks away disappointed*
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-04-20 18:35:08
Could be more productive to post the way you want other people to post instead of only complaining about the way that other people post.
That being said, I’m going to try to attempt to get back on topic....
I’m in Arizona and have been forced to work from home for a while. Today we had some corporate communications already hinting at upcoming plans to get people back to the office. I’m not sure how to feel about that yet, but I really hope they don’t jump the gun when working from home is almost just as effective as being in the office. Or you could stop trying to make snide comments and making me the subject of discussion, and then crying when you get them back or become the subject of discussion. The irony is astounding.
Excuse me for not wanting to read about pedophilia. Or, you know, you could always talk about the topic at hand. Like life after the shutdown.
Unless, of course, you don't want it to go back to normal.
Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-04-20 18:37:24
Could be more productive to post the way you want other people to post instead of only complaining about the way that other people post.
That being said, I’m going to try to attempt to get back on topic....
I’m in Arizona and have been forced to work from home for a while. Today we had some corporate communications already hinting at upcoming plans to get people back to the office. I’m not sure how to feel about that yet, but I really hope they don’t jump the gun when working from home is almost just as effective as being in the office. Or you could stop trying to make snide comments and making me the subject of discussion, and then crying when you get them back or become the subject of discussion. The irony is astounding.
Excuse me for not wanting to read about paedophillia.
I’m sorry, did you think I was using “you” as in you personally instead of the general “you”? Sounds like a personal problem. Btw, how has corona affected your area so far?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-04-20 18:39:14
It was I who asked to get the subject back on topic and off pedo debating. It is only Rav's endless desperate attempts to be snide and obssession with getting my attention and now your pointless post to try and make it look like it was me that wanted anything but being back on subject that is detracting from it. 
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-04-20 18:43:52
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By abknight 2020-04-20 18:46:11
I’d like to hear how billnes is handling the lockdown. We don’t hear from him enough and I bet we could learn a thing or two from him. Lord knows we could use a break from these other characters.
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Bahamut.Negan
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By Bahamut.Negan 2020-04-20 18:48:03
Billnes has antibodies to cure every disease.
Garuda.Chanti
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By Garuda.Chanti 2020-04-20 18:50:07
No you don't.
His banning has nothing to do with ego. Only posts.
So, today was the first case of the virus being confirmed in my rural county.
This last week has been pretty insane to start. Most grocery stores have been emptied, toilet paper is non existent. Bars, hotels, and casinos have been shutdown as of yesterday, our town relies heavily on these sources of income. There are now rumors that our mine sites will soon be shutdown as well. I plan to withdraw a substantial amount of cash from the bank tomorrow morning, and hit every store I can get my hands on to get some groceries before the hoarding gets any worse.
I have heard of California being on total lockdown, as well of rumors of people even being imprisoned for attempting to leave the state.
Curious to hear how other parts of the country are getting along, surprised there isn't an official Corona-Virus thread here yet.
Crazy stuff.
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