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ALL TRUMP!!! ALL THE TIME!!!
Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-04-15 22:11:54
That does not fall under the "strawman" definition
Wow, wasn't expecting you to actually know the definition of something for once. I just figured you'd reuse it even more improperly and hilarity would ensue, as usual. Kudos!
Still, pulling a Godwin is pretty idiotic and you should feel bad.
Can you please keep your posts about the actual topic, and not about the people posting? Your last 2 posts have been more about shaming people because they don't agree with you rather than presenting an argument over the actual topic.
You insinuated that I might deem “concentration camps & KKK pep rallies” as “nice things”. Whether or not you were joking, that’s insulting and ridiculous. Get off your high horse.
Look again, I never attached that to you...I was speaking in general, and inferring Trump's ideology. It was not directed at you personally, rather the notion. You should really learn to separate the 2.
Sure, spin it like that. Trump’s ideology isn’t concentration camps and KKK pep rallies either. No matter how you put it, it was a stupid post.
Ragnarok.Ozment
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-04-15 22:19:24
That does not fall under the "strawman" definition
Wow, wasn't expecting you to actually know the definition of something for once. I just figured you'd reuse it even more improperly and hilarity would ensue, as usual. Kudos!
Still, pulling a Godwin is pretty idiotic and you should feel bad.
Can you please keep your posts about the actual topic, and not about the people posting? Your last 2 posts have been more about shaming people because they don't agree with you rather than presenting an argument over the actual topic.
You insinuated that I might deem “concentration camps & KKK pep rallies” as “nice things”. Whether or not you were joking, that’s insulting and ridiculous. Get off your high horse.
Look again, I never attached that to you...I was speaking in general, and inferring Trump's ideology. It was not directed at you personally, rather the notion. You should really learn to separate the 2.
Sure, spin it like that. Trump’s ideology isn’t concentration camps and KKK pep rallies either. No matter how you put it, it was a stupid post.
There you go again, attacking the poster. I didn't spin, and I am not stupid. Nice bash Rava.
Back on the actual topic, it is quite debatable that Trump's ideology is concentration camps and KKK pep rallies. He's the ultimate white supremacist.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-04-15 22:21:51
There you go again, attacking the poster. I didn't spin, and I am not stupid. Nice bash Rava.
Back on the actual topic, it is quite debatable that Trump's ideology is concentration camps and KKK pep rallies. He's the ultimate white supremacist.
Did I say you were stupid? I said your post was stupid. You should really learn to separate the two.
And no, he's not the "ultimate white supremacist". There are many things you can say about Trump that are negative and true. There's no need to resort to ridiculous absolutes that don't make any sense.
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-04-15 22:28:05
There you go again, attacking the poster. I didn't spin, and I am not stupid. Nice bash Rava.
Back on the actual topic, it is quite debatable that Trump's ideology is concentration camps and KKK pep rallies. He's the ultimate white supremacist.
Did I say you were stupid? I said your post was stupid. You should really learn to separate the two.
And no, he's not the "ultimate white supremacist". There are many things you can say about Trump that are negative and true. There's no need to resort to ridiculous absolutes that don't make any sense.
I'm not being ridiculous, nor stupid. Please refrain from the personal insinuations.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-04-15 22:33:03
There you go again, attacking the poster. I didn't spin, and I am not stupid. Nice bash Rava.
Back on the actual topic, it is quite debatable that Trump's ideology is concentration camps and KKK pep rallies. He's the ultimate white supremacist.
Did I say you were stupid? I said your post was stupid. You should really learn to separate the two.
And no, he's not the "ultimate white supremacist". There are many things you can say about Trump that are negative and true. There's no need to resort to ridiculous absolutes that don't make any sense.
I'm not being ridiculous, nor stupid. Please refrain from the personal insinuations.
Stop playing the victim. If you make ridiculous statements you're going to get called on it, end of story.
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-04-15 22:35:51
There you go again, attacking the poster. I didn't spin, and I am not stupid. Nice bash Rava.
Back on the actual topic, it is quite debatable that Trump's ideology is concentration camps and KKK pep rallies. He's the ultimate white supremacist.
Did I say you were stupid? I said your post was stupid. You should really learn to separate the two.
And no, he's not the "ultimate white supremacist". There are many things you can say about Trump that are negative and true. There's no need to resort to ridiculous absolutes that don't make any sense.
I'm not being ridiculous, nor stupid. Please refrain from the personal insinuations.
Stop playing the victim. If you make ridiculous statements you're going to get called on it, end of story.
This isn't about me, why can't you see that? Focus on the topic.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-04-15 22:37:39
The topic is Trump, you said something ridiculous about him. I'm addressing your comment.
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-04-15 22:40:56
The topic is Trump, you said something ridiculous about him. I'm addressing your comment.
Addressing my comment by calling me slow, ridiculous, & stupid?
Okay
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-04-15 22:51:50
The topic is Trump, you said something ridiculous about him. I'm addressing your comment.
Addressing my comment by calling me slow, ridiculous, & stupid?
Okay
Now you're saying that I called you slow? When did the word "slow" even appear in my posts? I know exactly what you're trying to do, though. You saw someone get topic banned for personal attacks, you don't like me, and therefore you're trying to get me topic banned for personal attacks I didn't even make. Knock it off, the mods know how to read. Repeating something a million times doesn't make it true.
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-04-15 23:05:17
The topic is Trump, you said something ridiculous about him. I'm addressing your comment.
Addressing my comment by calling me slow, ridiculous, & stupid?
Okay
Now you're saying that I called you slow? When did the word "slow" even appear in my posts? I know exactly what you're trying to do, though. You saw someone get topic banned for personal attacks, you don't like me, and therefore you're trying to get me topic banned for personal attacks I didn't even make. Knock it off, the mods know how to read. Repeating something a million times doesn't make it true.
All I ask is that we keep on topic, no need for paranoia. It is "ALL TRUMP!!! ALL THE TIME!!!" which you must realize doesn't sound good for Trump, so if things being posted here hurt your feelings you should probably find another thread. Somewhere you can feel validated with your protrump feelings.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-04-15 23:11:30
That was an even weaker attempt to get me to leave, but I can't blame you for trying. I don't expect anything positive to come from this thread, but if we can keep it below straight-up Godwin level that would be appreciated. At least try to back up your anti-Trump hatred with something even remotely intellectually stimulating. You have plenty of actual material to work with.
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-04-15 23:17:03
That was an even weaker attempt to get me to leave, but I can't blame you for trying. I don't expect anything positive to come from this thread, but if we can keep it below straight-up Godwin level that would be appreciated. At least try to back up your anti-Trump hatred with something even remotely intellectually stimulating. You have plenty of actual material to work with.
Again, this isn't about me. Please stay on topic. Since this is about Trump, let's refer to him by the colorful names you have chosen for me today: slow, ridiculous, stupid...and now weak.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-04-15 23:26:47
/eyeroll
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-04-15 23:44:00
See, that's better. That is exactly my reaction whenever Trump speaks.
By Voren 2020-04-16 01:02:02
Trump’s ideology isn’t concentration camps and KKK pep rallies either.
I've stated as well that I didn't think Trump = Hitler. Does he have white supremacist supporters? Yeah he does, just like Obama had Black Panther supporters, and like Obama, Trump's not going to denounce them because that's throwing away votes.
Now, Trump is like Democrats were in the 90's and before when it comes to racism. He'll say he loves minorities and then implement policies and enforce actions that negatively impact minorities.
It's a lot like Bill Clinton's criminal reforms that had a huge impact, mainly on Black communities, only Melania isn't spouting off racist garbage like Hilary did. Unlike Clinton, though, Trump actually has detainment facilities for his minority roundups.
I find it particularly offensive to call the US facilities concentration camps. The survivors of Nazi camps actually survived brutal conditions, inflicted tortures, beatings, starvation, medical experimentation, and mass executions. Let's not marginalize their suffering by comparing it to a location where the detainees have 3 hots and a cot.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-04-16 01:52:02
It's funny how oblivious certain people are as to how passive-aggressive and easily enraged they are.
More funny than you realize.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-04-16 01:57:46
I find it particularly offensive to call the US facilities concentration camps. The survivors of Nazi camps actually survived brutal conditions, inflicted tortures, beatings, starvation, medical experimentation, and mass executions. Let's not marginalize their suffering by comparing it to a location where the detainees have 3 hots and a cot.
Much agreed on this point. Millennial keyboard warriors in their comfy chairs never had to experience such horrors, so it’s easy to make an offhanded comparison.
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By Voren 2020-04-16 02:39:53
Everything you said is completely incorrect with American politics and voters. It doesn't work like that in the least.
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By Voren 2020-04-16 02:47:22
A majority of people will vote straight ticket on both sides. The minority of voters will actually vote the issues.
This is where your mistakes are. The moderates, as most call them, will either vote Biden or Trump depending upon their "promises" or they'll vote third party like last time.
Fanboys make up the majority of all voters in the US.
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By Voren 2020-04-16 03:10:55
Democrats had a wide diversity of candidates this time. What was chosen?
Joe Biden: white, cis, heterosexual, older, male that swapped most of his views within the last 4~5 years.
Biden isn't going to win, so I'm really not sure why all this matters.
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-04-16 09:27:05
Trump’s ideology isn’t concentration camps and KKK pep rallies either.
I've stated as well that I didn't think Trump = Hitler. Does he have white supremacist supporters? Yeah he does, just like Obama had Black Panther supporters, and like Obama, Trump's not going to denounce them because that's throwing away votes.
Now, Trump is like Democrats were in the 90's and before when it comes to racism. He'll say he loves minorities and then implement policies and enforce actions that negatively impact minorities.
It's a lot like Bill Clinton's criminal reforms that had a huge impact, mainly on Black communities, only Melania isn't spouting off racist garbage like Hilary did. Unlike Clinton, though, Trump actually has detainment facilities for his minority roundups.
I find it particularly offensive to call the US facilities concentration camps. The survivors of Nazi camps actually survived brutal conditions, inflicted tortures, beatings, starvation, medical experimentation, and mass executions. Let's not marginalize their suffering by comparing it to a location where the detainees have 3 hots and a cot.
Concentration camps are not limited to Nazi Germany. It is a generic term that has a specific definition.
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By Viciouss 2020-04-16 09:46:38
lol, how many different threads is kireek gonna try to tell us how he thinks American politics work?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-04-16 09:49:47
All the threads. Every one of them.
When you have to talk trump do it here.
Positive, negative, I don't care.
I don't expect this thread to stay civil. I do expect no personal attacks or profanity. Please preview before you post.
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