Random Politics & Religion #39: Guac Is Extra

You could say wait for it...that's the way the cookie crumbles !

You can't use "lol" Vic invented that.

I'll allow it.

Isnt citizenship important in regards to voting?

If that was rampant, why would republicans push for voter Id?

Umm because Democrats are promising to disband ICE and full legalization for all illegals while Republicans are promising the exact opposite. Really strong incentive for illegals to vote Democrat.

Oh and apparently California thinks it can sign and enter into international treaties and accords on their own.

Guys these are the true faces of Democrats in the USA.

Democrats are so batshit crazy these days that I will literally vote for anyone other than them....

Pelosi stated today “none of us came to congress with the intent to impeach the president”

What a fool.

Uhhhh...What?!?!

In many states no ID is required. I live in NY everytime I go to vote all I have to do is sign a book and they give me a ballot. Not one time have I ever had to prove citizenship. In NY you could take the name of any registered voter and just sign the book and vote. They outlawed voter id here years ago. Why do you think the dems would do that? I am being serious here. Why would you not want id checks?

Their straight up ignoring the rules and doing whatever they think will give them an edge in 2020, then relying on their PR arm, CNN and MSNBC, to cover their butts.

The California issue is a clear example of this, California is for all intends and purposes a single party state similar to China. There is only the Democratic party and their leadership controls all the political assignments in the state. Displease them and they replace you in the next election if not sooner. They can alter and change any political position in the state because they control which names get on the tickets. Voting is basically just ceremonial now. Now California didn't like that the US President they didn't like is reascending policies of the former President which they did like. Their response is to insist those policies still exist because California didn't agree to have them removed, and then go further and start entering into international treaties and accords with other countries around those policies.

Now I'm 100% for state autonomy and if California wants to continue destroying it's economy it an go right ahead. There is an exception to this and it's because the US Constitution clearly and without exception empowers the federal government with the sole power to engage in and negotiate international treaties and accords. This is one of the original pure functions of the federal government, to regulate interstate commerce and present a single entity for dealing with other countries.

Yep the hard liberal states have these rules to guarantee they maintain a majority. A few thousand illegals voting, while having almost zero impact on national elections, can have huge impacts on local elections. After all it's the state congress's that determine election maps and state laws.

New York did not "outlaw voter ID," they simply only require an ID one time, the first time you vote in the state. After that, your registered and no longer need ID for each election. Saevel is of course, lying.

Michael moore stumping for Bernie, says post heart attack bernie could beat him in a race.

(Please vote for communism)

I've voted in many elections not once did they ask me for my Driver's License.

All they did was ask me to sign a piece of paper.

I don't know if you can't get a valid ID you probably shouldn't vote...you have proved you are lazy or stupid or both !

Its time to wall off California and let them rot.

Yeah but have you logged onto Shiva recently?

Yes...it is crucial. Which is why a person cannot vote without presenting ID as proof of citizenship.

...and yet that isn't happening outside the minds of loons.

You do not need ID to vote in a united states federal election.

Are you kidding me?

ID checks are mandatory, and if your state isn't requiring this it is something you need to report. I've always been required to provide ID, as should be.

100% false. A simple scapegoat to blame when the election results don't go the way you want.

In Oz’s head, there ARE mandatory voter ID laws in place and to suggest otherwise is some right wing conspiracy?

Oh good, so you're in favor of Republican-backed voter ID laws, then. Because there are 15 states + Washington D.C. where no ID is required at the ballot box.

Well, my state always has...I can't speak for other states, but then anyone could vote. I wonder how many Russians Trump had to fly over in 2016. :p

100% in favor of. I'm not 100% left-leaning, I tend to fluctuate. There are some good things about the right, and requiring voter ID is a great one.

Also, I don't see Trump as Republican. He's his own bizarre party that is anti-American.

Most states don't require ID to vote because it's a form of voter disenfranchisement. There are plenty of studies showing how a significant number of registered voters in areas with those laws do not have a valid form of ID required (whether their ID is expired or not an accepted form, they're unable to afford an ID, etc). These laws are known to disproportionately affect minorities and poor people more than white and non-poor people. Since minorities and poor people tend to vote more Democratic and white/wealthier people tend to vote more Republican, you can see why these laws are stricter in redder states.

Voter impersonation, the only thing these ID laws would prevent, is extremely rare. The penalties-- up to 5 years in prison and a $10,000 fine-- are severe enough that people (especially undocumented migrants) wouldn't dare risk it.