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By fonewear 2019-10-30 11:00:32
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What is really sad is that. There used to be normal Democrats. Not this ultra left people. People that you could actually talk to. Without worrying about the PC police.

I'm not sure exactly when the ultra left leaning politics happened but it is ruining a generation of young people.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-10-30 11:01:35
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Nausi said: »
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
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Dems’ impeachment resolution:

-Cuts Oversight and Foreign Affairs out of public hearings
-Pretends to give @Devin Nunez subpoena authority, subject to Schiff’s approval
-No Due Process for the WH
-Doesn’t undo the damage of Schiff’s biased and unfair sham

Let the scam continue...

Maybe this is Pelosi’s way of sinking her own ship.

Yeah just got done reading it, it's a pretty lop sided document, like Soviet era type lop sided. Republicans can only participate with the *permission* from the Democrats, all questions, evidence and requests for testimony must first be submitted in writing to the Democrats who will then approve or deny them. Any off the record questions to the witness may only happen after the official transcript of the testimony has concluded and those questions would be asked only with permission from the Democrats.

So yeah it's still a sham investigation.

That is a lop sided post, and completely fictitious.

You can read the document here.

There is no break down of Democrat versus Republican like you are implying. It talks about committee members, which include both Republicans and Democrats.
Please quote the relevant sections which support your premise

I can't highlight something that isn't there. Why don't you highlight the Democrat and Republican verbiage in the document? It's a 3 page document, and a quick read. No one here needs to read it for you. Put on your big boy pants and read it yourself.
So by your own admission there is nothing in the text that supports your premise.

Gotcha! Thats what we all thought.

There is no crime that is even alleged to have occurred. Asking Ukraine for a favor is not a quid pro quo.

That's pretty dang funny right there.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-30 11:13:27
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Hey Vic, I'm sitting Chicago O'Hare right now. Just because your weather sucks doesn't mean you have to be mad all the time.

Probably mad because Texas is full of evil Republicans and he is a pussy liberal.

Well, he managed to land in the one city in Texas that's more California than Texas. They're trying to quarantine Austin, but it's difficult to contain until they can divert border wall funding.

We are already discussing moving to Katy, its pretty clear Austin doesn't want minorities to live here.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-30 11:14:33
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Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
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Dems’ impeachment resolution:

-Cuts Oversight and Foreign Affairs out of public hearings
-Pretends to give @Devin Nunez subpoena authority, subject to Schiff’s approval
-No Due Process for the WH
-Doesn’t undo the damage of Schiff’s biased and unfair sham

Let the scam continue...

Maybe this is Pelosi’s way of sinking her own ship.

Yeah just got done reading it, it's a pretty lop sided document, like Soviet era type lop sided. Republicans can only participate with the *permission* from the Democrats, all questions, evidence and requests for testimony must first be submitted in writing to the Democrats who will then approve or deny them. Any off the record questions to the witness may only happen after the official transcript of the testimony has concluded and those questions would be asked only with permission from the Democrats.

So yeah it's still a sham investigation.

That is a lop sided post, and completely fictitious.

You can read the document here.

There is no break down of Democrat versus Republican like you are implying. It talks about committee members, which include both Republicans and Democrats.
Please quote the relevant sections which support your premise

I can't highlight something that isn't there. Why don't you highlight the Democrat and Republican verbiage in the document? It's a 3 page document, and a quick read. No one here needs to read it for you. Put on your big boy pants and read it yourself.

Looks like this was too hard of a task for him.
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By fonewear 2019-10-30 11:17:58
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If I want my dose of liberals I just go to Starbucks and say I want a black coffee.

Then I get called a racist or something !
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By fonewear 2019-10-30 11:18:35
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The woman behind the counter with pink hair and 10 nose rings. I'm sure she is a political expert !
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By fonewear 2019-10-30 11:19:25
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Get a coffee and a lecture about how white men are destroying America.

I'll just take the coffee thank you.
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By fonewear 2019-10-30 11:20:55
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That is the worst type of person to come across. The lecturer. Ask them a simple question you get a history lesson.
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By Nausi 2019-10-30 11:24:58
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
That's pretty dang funny right there.
Couldn’t resist.
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2019-10-30 11:57:08
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Viciouss said: »
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
Nausi said: »
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
Asura.Saevel said: »
Nausi said: »
Dems’ impeachment resolution:

-Cuts Oversight and Foreign Affairs out of public hearings
-Pretends to give @Devin Nunez subpoena authority, subject to Schiff’s approval
-No Due Process for the WH
-Doesn’t undo the damage of Schiff’s biased and unfair sham

Let the scam continue...

Maybe this is Pelosi’s way of sinking her own ship.

Yeah just got done reading it, it's a pretty lop sided document, like Soviet era type lop sided. Republicans can only participate with the *permission* from the Democrats, all questions, evidence and requests for testimony must first be submitted in writing to the Democrats who will then approve or deny them. Any off the record questions to the witness may only happen after the official transcript of the testimony has concluded and those questions would be asked only with permission from the Democrats.

So yeah it's still a sham investigation.

That is a lop sided post, and completely fictitious.

You can read the document here.

There is no break down of Democrat versus Republican like you are implying. It talks about committee members, which include both Republicans and Democrats.
Please quote the relevant sections which support your premise

I can't highlight something that isn't there. Why don't you highlight the Democrat and Republican verbiage in the document? It's a 3 page document, and a quick read. No one here needs to read it for you. Put on your big boy pants and read it yourself.

Looks like this was too hard of a task for him.

Clearly! There is nothing in the document that remotely matches his kooky claims...but he expects people to prove his claim is false rather than him just proving his claim. Crazy right-wing logic, or lack thereof.
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By fonewear 2019-10-30 12:08:17
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Game seven of World Series rooting for Astros.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-30 12:09:40
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It's been a great series, I'm good with either team winning.
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2019-10-30 12:10:32
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Vindman Confirms White House altered transcript.

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WASHINGTON — Lt. Col. Alexander S. Vindman, the top Ukraine expert on the National Security Council, told House impeachment investigators on Tuesday that the White House transcript of a July call between President Trump and Ukraine’s president omitted crucial words and phrases, and that his attempts to include them failed, according to three people familiar with the testimony.

The omissions, Colonel Vindman said, included Mr. Trump’s assertion that there were recordings of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. discussing Ukraine corruption, and an explicit mention by Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, of Burisma Holdings, the energy company whose board employed Mr. Biden’s son Hunter.

Colonel Vindman, who appeared on Capitol Hill wearing his dark blue Army dress uniform and military ribbons, told House impeachment investigators that he tried to change the reconstructed transcript made by the White House staff to reflect the omissions. But while some of his edits appeared to have been successful, he said, those two corrections were not made.

Colonel Vindman did not testify to a motive behind the White House editing process. But his testimony is likely to drive investigators to ask further questions about how officials handled the call, including changes to the transcript and the decision to put it into the White House’s most classified computer system — and whether those moves were meant to conceal the conversation’s most controversial aspects.
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By fonewear 2019-10-30 12:13:20
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Colonel Sanders is also testifying about his 9 herbs and spices.
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By Nausi 2019-10-30 12:22:54
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Vindman Confirms White House altered transcript.

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WASHINGTON — Lt. Col. Alexander S. Vindman, the top Ukraine expert on the National Security Council, told House impeachment investigators on Tuesday that the White House transcript of a July call between President Trump and Ukraine’s president omitted crucial words and phrases, and that his attempts to include them failed, according to three people familiar with the testimony.

The omissions, Colonel Vindman said, included Mr. Trump’s assertion that there were recordings of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. discussing Ukraine corruption, and an explicit mention by Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, of Burisma Holdings, the energy company whose board employed Mr. Biden’s son Hunter.

Colonel Vindman, who appeared on Capitol Hill wearing his dark blue Army dress uniform and military ribbons, told House impeachment investigators that he tried to change the reconstructed transcript made by the White House staff to reflect the omissions. But while some of his edits appeared to have been successful, he said, those two corrections were not made.

Colonel Vindman did not testify to a motive behind the White House editing process. But his testimony is likely to drive investigators to ask further questions about how officials handled the call, including changes to the transcript and the decision to put it into the White House’s most classified computer system — and whether those moves were meant to conceal the conversation’s most controversial aspects.

This isn't a confirmation, this is a allegation made without evidence.
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By fonewear 2019-10-30 12:23:52
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I was read the White House transcript but it looked long and boring. So I'll just assume it says "Blumpf is finished" somewhere on it.
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By fonewear 2019-10-30 12:24:00
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I was going to read *
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2019-10-30 12:28:18
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Vindman Confirms White House altered transcript.

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WASHINGTON — Lt. Col. Alexander S. Vindman, the top Ukraine expert on the National Security Council, told House impeachment investigators on Tuesday that the White House transcript of a July call between President Trump and Ukraine’s president omitted crucial words and phrases, and that his attempts to include them failed, according to three people familiar with the testimony.

The omissions, Colonel Vindman said, included Mr. Trump’s assertion that there were recordings of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. discussing Ukraine corruption, and an explicit mention by Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, of Burisma Holdings, the energy company whose board employed Mr. Biden’s son Hunter.

Colonel Vindman, who appeared on Capitol Hill wearing his dark blue Army dress uniform and military ribbons, told House impeachment investigators that he tried to change the reconstructed transcript made by the White House staff to reflect the omissions. But while some of his edits appeared to have been successful, he said, those two corrections were not made.

Colonel Vindman did not testify to a motive behind the White House editing process. But his testimony is likely to drive investigators to ask further questions about how officials handled the call, including changes to the transcript and the decision to put it into the White House’s most classified computer system — and whether those moves were meant to conceal the conversation’s most controversial aspects.

This isn't a confirmation, this is a allegation made without evidence.

He *is* the evidence. He was witness to the phone call.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-30 12:29:57
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He was on the phone call lol. He listened to the entire conversation.
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By Nausi 2019-10-30 12:38:49
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And really what it is, is an admission that this officer attempted to alter and edit an established transcript.

Theres no mystery here, this is a coup.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-30 12:45:12
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And really what it is, is an admission that this officer attempted to alter and edit an established transcript.

Theres no mystery here, this is a coup.

lol, wat
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By Nausi 2019-10-30 12:46:14
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Was this guy even under oath?

Ou wait did that part not leak?
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By Nausi 2019-10-30 12:48:14
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Do we know what those crucial phrases are? How come that part didn’t leak?
 
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By Viciouss 2019-10-30 12:51:41
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Was this guy even under oath?

Ou wait did that part not leak?

Nah, Congressional witnesses are never sworn in. Ever.

Spin mode is on.
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By Nausi 2019-10-30 12:55:27
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And really what it is, is an admission that this officer attempted to alter and edit an established transcript.

Theres no mystery here, this is a coup.

We've went over this already, but it's not a transcript, it's a memorandum.
Its the official record.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-30 12:57:18
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Nausi said: »
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And really what it is, is an admission that this officer attempted to alter and edit an established transcript.

Theres no mystery here, this is a coup.

We've went over this already, but it's not a transcript, it's a memorandum.
Its the official record.

This has been 100% disproven, repeatedly. We have always known it wasn't an official transcript, but rather a memo compiled mostly by memory. Now we have first hand knowledge that there was more mentions of Biden than the WH led us to believe. What else did they decline to include in the unofficial transcript?
 
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By Nausi 2019-10-30 13:03:28
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Its like the stenographer in a courtroom.

Do you know how likely it is that those records are trash?
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By Nausi 2019-10-30 13:04:59
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it is based on notes and recollections from Situation Room officers and National Security Council staff, who are assigned to listen to and document presidential conversations.
So are all these people lying and engaged in a conspiracy to cover up what was actually said?

What about the president of Ukraine?
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