Soloing ODIN

Thanks everyone!

This will be a necrobump, but I have tried it today with my noob rdm. My gear is a mix of ambuscade and UNM items.

I attempted the VE version. Buffed myself, then started debuffing Odin. Got a nice immunobreak on Paralyze II, others sticked without any problems. Used the dmg: 1 weapon, so I've done no dmg, according to the information here and on YT video. But Odin still easily killed me with just normal attacks. Was I doing something wrong? Or maybe I need spend time and money to get a proper -PDT gear?

I've also used trusts: Brygid, Kuyin Hathdenna, Moogle, and Sakura.

You sub ninja and keep up shadows. Did you fail to do that? The point of hitting him for zero is to give zero tp... letting him hit you gives him tp... defeating the purpose.

you need to be full timing Utsusemi. if Odin is hitting you, he gets TP, and him not getting TP is the crux of this strat.

edit: Eiryl beat me to it

I was as /nin, but was more concentrated on putting all the debuffs on him, more than keeping shadows up all the time. I will try it again, thanks for pointing it out.

I solo Odin a few years ago to get Gere Ring.. got it quick but now i want a few more items. I recently resubbed and start killing him again... I've killed at least a dozen times on N and I have not seen ANY other item drops did they nerf his drop rate or penalize solo over the last few years?

I don't have freke, either sword, polearm, helm or armor is it realistic that i'm THIS unlucky?

The drop rate isn't high on Normal to begin with. Bump the difficulty up to see better drops.


Let me know when you've hit over 400 runs on VD and haven't seen a piece of armor. That's my record on Shinryu. Still counting.

Haven't had much luck on D or VD... VD resists are killing me...

and on D aspir/drain are AOE and rip shadows down i get wrecked trying to keep shadows up. Guess I'll keep grinding away

I feel like TH help, I have my mule goes THF and TA onto my RDM, but maybe that's just superstition.

I did it on D last week with TH4 and got both rings for someone else and a pokey stick in less than 14 attempts.

VD seemed like it was not worth doing just because of the time it takes. I retired my max enspell damage set when I took the merits out so it's possible VD isn't as bad when properly geared.

I haven't done this in 5 years, I started again to help a friend who needs drops.

Noticed in my notes I had "use enspell of the day" but that proved kinda wrong to me because on watersday my Enwawter enspells were doing around 222 per hit whereas Enfire was doing over 400.
Sooo... what is your experience with days and enspells for Odin?


Edit:
Enaero on Windsday worked nice. 455 damage per hit and lotsa 500 which I assume was the day proc

IMO using light elements worked better than a dark aligned spell on its day.

Yeah I guess focus on light alligned elements. If it's a light-alligned day then go for day element, otherwise stick to any light-alligned one, I suppose.

Just one look at Odin's elemental resistance ranks should be enough to show why using dark-aligned elements is much less effective. Light-aligned elements are the way to go.

Hi there, I am attempting this fight on RDM with the zero tp feed strat, but I am not getting anywhere near the enspell damage reported ITT or seen on any RDM solo video. I am casting Enthunder with 638 enhancing skill, but only getting ~140 dmg per Enspell hit on Odin, with or without frazzle III.
I am getting the same exact numbers on mobs under level 75 so I know it is not a resist or macc issue. I feel like I AM LOSING my freaking mind, please, please help! I have tested on Odin on different days, different difficulties, always the same low dmg.
Food: Oden
Enhancing Set: I know I can squeeze out another ~30 skill or so, is that the issue?
sets.midcast.Enhancing = {
main="Pukulatmuj",
sub="Ammurapi Shield",
ammo="Pemphredo Tathlum",
head="Umuthi hat",
body={ name="Viti. Tabard +3", augments={'Enhances "Chainspell" effect',}},
hands="Duelist's Gloves",
legs={ name="Carmine Cuisses +1", augments={'Accuracy+20','Attack+12','"Dual Wield"+6',}},
feet="Leth. Houseaux +3",
neck="Incanter's torque",
waist="Olympus Sash",
left_ear="Andoaa Earring",
right_ear="Lethargy Earring",
left_ring="Stikini Ring +1",
right_ring="Stikini Ring +1",
back={ name="Ghostfyre Cape", augments={'Enfb.mag. skill +5','Enha.mag. skill +5','Mag. Acc.+3','Enh. Mag. eff. dur. +19',}},

TP SET:
{ main="Qutrub Knife",
sub="Edgeless Knife",
range="Ullr",
head="Nyame Helm",
body="Lethargy Sayon +2",
hands="Aya. Manopolas +2",
legs={ name="Carmine Cuisses +1", augments={'Accuracy+20','Attack+12','"Dual Wield"+6',}},
feet="Nyame Sollerets",
neck="Lissome Necklace",
waist="Sailfi Belt +1",
left_ear="Suppanomimi",
right_ear="Eabani Earring",
left_ring="Chirich Ring +1",
right_ring="Cacoethic Ring +1",
back={ name="Sucellos's Cape", augments={'INT+20','Mag. Acc+20 /Mag. Dmg.+20','Mag. Acc.+5','"Dual Wield"+10','Damage taken-5%',}}

Thanks for looking and TIA for any advice, I feel like I have gears comparable to some of the vids I've seen where folks are getting 300-450 enspell damage a swing.

Make sure you're using Composure. BG Wiki lists Composure's EnSpell bonus as +200% base damage.

You're not using the Sword Enhancement gear in your TP set, which is required. Something like this.

ItemSet 376050

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It was cancelling composure! I am hitting 450 now, incredible! Thanks for the reply!

Just need to throw out there that you do not need an enspell damage set to do the tickle Odin to death strat.

The only pieces I use in my current set are Ayanmo gauntlets and O.sash, and I didn't always have the latter. It's more important to be able to get decent acc/macc scores, as well as disabling him with blind/slow/para so you're not wasting time putting up shadows.

Could you share your react lua file for Odin?

You know you could just DM the guy instead of putting him on blast publically, right?

I mean i guess he posted the video so fair enough but damn.

Is this putting me on blast? I dunno. I'm not in the know on such things.

Anyways, there's no react file. I don't know how it would help during Odin.

I don't recognize what all the addons, plug-ins, luas, etc. look like unless I've watched a stream or video with them on, so I couldn't say whether it was something in your video or not. Not sure why your UI says INTERRUPTED every time a debuff wears off Odin, for example.

React would be good for turning away from Odin when he casts dread spikes, reacting to shadows running out by casting new ones, reacting to debuffs going down by recasting them, etc.

I'm not sure how this would all work, if it would be optimal, or if it would be valuable, but there's definitely plenty of opportunity if you don't care to actually play FFXI. It's very sad that the first response to a video is to ask for help programming a bot to do the fight for you, but here we are.

Side note: if he has dread spikes but you're hitting for 0, I guess the spikes do 0 and it's not actually dangerous, so that's nice?

Edited to add: or maybe he saw you unloading it at the start of the video and either misread that message or assumed you only took it off for the video. Or maybe he's so deep into React he can't imagine facing down with a FFXI boss without it. IDK, I'm not him, just spitballing.

I miss raed it, I was falling to sleep anyway, I will try to solo on my RDM too seems possible.

The Interrupted message is FinalAlert. It shows a box when a move is being used or interrupted, not when a debuff falls. There is debuffed, though, which will sort of do that. What interrupted indicates is that Odin's autoattack (or spellcast) was paralyzed, in this case. It's React for your human eyes, I guess.

It's not really of any consequence. I have to stress that you cannot use react to win a fight like this without understanding the mechanics of the fight. There's not really a magic lua out there that I know of that does an entire fight for you - not any that are worth building react luas for, anyway.


Yes, because you're dealing 0 physical damage, dread spikes will not hurt you. React will not help there, but it does mean that he is not silenced which is a bigger problem. Your only real use of react would be to cast silence when he casts a spell. It would only be one, and it almost always takes multiple attempts to get it to stick after the first one.

The other two things you mentioned are, as far as I know, not things react can do. That would be more custom gearswap territory. I'm sure some gearswaps could do that, but its not particularly hard to keep shadows up when he's debuffed.

Ah, sure. Even when soloing bigger bosses (for 2022) React isn't all that useful, in my opinion, and more often than not gets in the way.
At the time of this video, I know what it's use was. It wasn't anything special, but it did let me take a few minutes break sometimes when grinding Omen bosses.

I'm not particularly shy about addon use. I've built a few small helpers here and there, but I prefer information to automation when it comes to anything other than gear. This is still possible with just gearswap or even vanilla XI if you have an extra finger here or there to spare.

I think you're confused about the box I'm talking about or the code you're running. You're meleeing for ~5 minutes straight, casting utsusemi, odin is getting paralyzed repeatedly, everything's going swimmingly. Then when you go to use Saboteur, as soon as you hit that ability, the box pops up:

It definitely has nothing to do with spells being interrupted or Odin being paralyzed, or anything to do with his auto-attacks, since he had been doing them for 5 minutes straight without a single popup box. He's not casting (he's still silenced). The next one seems to be around the time that Odin gets silenced, but it's really hard to tell because it happens (from what I can tell) slightly before the silence lands. Then there's another random one where basically nothing seems to be happening.

Maybe it's just really broken, or detecting something our feeble human eyes can't see in the packets.


I wasn't intending to imply that it was possible for a bot to win the fight for you, though I'm very confident a properly tuned bot could, but my statement was that someone asked for code to do it for them (or help in any way possible), which is the part I find sad.


I'm surprised by this as well. I know I've seen friends have React set up to recognize a debuff being applied or removed, and they can make the "reaction" be to cast a spell or use a WS, so I'm surprised to hear that you can't detect a buff going away and then react by casting a spell. Are you certain this isn't possible (w/r/t utsusemi)? Maybe you can't re-apply debuffs because you can't know when the enemy's debuffs wore off, but...that's what debuffed does, right? Is it really impossible to code anything that either reads the data or the log and sees when a debuff wears off? Actually...don't answer that, we don't need bots getting better or people relying on them more.


I'm sure it wasn't your intention, but this really isn't convincing me of how unpowerful or useless React is.


By "this is still possible" I assume you mean beating this fight? In which case yeah, of course. I've long been a proponent that anything is possible to beat Vanilla, with GS only, or with GS+, or any combination of third party programs you want to use, so we definitely agree there. The crux of my opinion has always been the "with an extra finger here or there" part, which I'm glad you pointed out.

Has anyone done this on D or VD at ML50?
I've got all the drops from it on my main, and I sort of want to grind them out for my other accounts or whomever in my LS needs stuff.
I'm a Hume if it matters using the following gear:
ItemSet 396773
My Lethargy Earring +1 is max augs.
Cape is DEX+20/Acc+30/Atk+20/DW+10/DT-5.
I tend to eat Rolanberry Daifuku.

I farmed all the gear around ML20, so I haven't tried at ML40, but I thought that at some point due to the stat gains from MLs you stop hitting for zeros and hit for 1s feeding tp.? I can test later if no one else knows where the cutoff is.
Anyone know if it would matter D vs VD in this scenario?