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By Draylo 2020-03-29 12:18:16
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Ajido over the others, he dispels almost instantly when the spikes go up. BLU is safer than MNK imo, but you can try whichever you feel more comfortable with.

i recently am going thru WOTG for a char and wow, I forgot how awesome their CS's were.
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By Taint 2020-03-29 12:24:54
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Draylo said: »
Ajido over the others, he dispels almost instantly when the spikes go up. BLU is safer than MNK imo, but you can try whichever you feel more comfortable with.

i recently am going thru WOTG for a char and wow, I forgot how awesome their CS's were.

My MNK is very welled geared but i see 0-1 TP move before she’s dead. (Full time impetus,footwork,zerk)
That includes a little THF TP feed but it’s close to negated by absorbTP.

I’ve done a few on BLU but it’s been a long time. I’ll try again but it’s less DPS and more TP feed. The only challenge in this fight is her FU TP moves and MNK can straight ignore them.
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By Asura.Bippin 2020-03-29 12:43:56
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I would think MNK is way safer then blu. But really either should be able to solo E
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By Draylo 2020-03-29 12:52:54
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Way safer? How do you figure?

I think people are too hard onto that MNK bandwagon. How is it less DPS when you aren't even haste capped in your setup?
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By Taint 2020-03-29 13:09:14
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Haste2 plus March. It’s a 25ish second fight from engaged with 0-1 TP moves.

My BLU is exceptionally well geared and I’m confident it can’t touch that speed or safety. MNK with impetus,focus,zerk and footwork up is near the top of the DPS chain.
 
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By Draylo 2020-03-29 14:00:04
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Yet people are saying BLU doesn't need an update! Couldn't find a more perfect example in that with this.
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By Viciouss 2020-03-29 14:11:24
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Blu might need a few tweaks, but it won't ever be able to kill Lilith as fast as Monk or Sam. That's not a bad thing for Blu.
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By Draylo 2020-03-29 14:15:42
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It is the most perfect example, a job like MNK with all that dmg capability and able to withstand anything and having the fastest clear time. What downside is there? Its completely broken. Please explain how that isn't a bad thing for BLU? lol It's the literal definition as there is 0 reason to take or use any other job.

That doesn't just apply to soloing an easy fight like E Lilith. I've posted a video earlier in this thread of me soloing it on BLU quite fast and safe. We're talking in all content there is becoming less and less reason to use a BLU when you can just use one of the broken overpowered jobs like MNK currently is. They went overboard with their updates and now it is time to update BLU.
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2020-03-29 14:17:23
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I can also do a full Omen clear in 16 minutes on BLU, I can't do that on DRK. I think DRK needs a buff because of that.
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By Draylo 2020-03-29 14:20:11
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What a stupid example, thanks.
 
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2020-03-29 14:23:07
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It's exactly like the argument you brought up. Job A does something faster than Job B so Job B needs a buff.

You're welcome though.
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By Draylo 2020-03-29 14:25:11
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No it isn't, its in two completely different contexts. AOEing trash mobs doesn't automatically mean a job doesn't need updates. Many jobs can do it, not just BLU, so your example is really poor. This is a situation with two jobs focused on DD, and one performs better due to how OP it is. You can extend that to a lot of different content and see the disparity. It's time to update BLU!
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2020-03-29 15:03:00
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You legit just said that BLU needs an update because Taint said he believes can solo Lilith on his MNK faster than his BLU.
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By Draylo 2020-03-29 15:09:07
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#UpdateBLU
#BLUpdate
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By Asura.Frod 2020-03-29 15:10:10
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#deleteBLU
#BLUseless
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By Pantafernando 2020-03-29 16:04:08
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Can anyone repost the link for that video on VD clearing with all adds killed using party member dropping?

I remember i saw that once, not sure if it was here or in other thread
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By Asura.Bippin 2020-03-29 16:32:15
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I Don't know how x Job can kill Lilith safer turns into other jobs need a update. RUN can not kill Lilith as easily as my MNK, guess its time for a RUN update.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-03-29 16:36:06
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Every thread turns into

Nerf this/ fix that
DPS BiS/ you're gimp
argue just to hear your own voice

Same ***, different title
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By Felgarr 2020-03-29 16:51:53
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Pantafernando said: »
Can anyone repost the link for that video on VD clearing with all adds killed using party member dropping?

I remember i saw that once, not sure if it was here or in other thread

I didn't know this was a thing either. I'd love to watch it. Please share!
 
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By Draylo 2020-03-29 18:08:33
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Not in my opinion, EV is really incredible. I showed using her in my video a few pages back, she can hold hate for the initial first half of the fight given its a short fight. I'd say its nice for being able to set up.
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By Taint 2020-03-29 18:24:05
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Why a tank at all? Lilith hits like a wet noodle until she buffs herself.
 
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By Draylo 2020-03-29 18:26:29
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Taint said: »
Why a tank at all? Lilith hits like a wet noodle until she buffs herself.

Not everyone is on OP MNK, so I'm assuming he was asking for something else? She does a WS that gives amnesia and other status effects that are better placed on someone else. Its just a safety net.
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By Draylo 2020-03-29 18:27:32
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DirectX said: »
Taint said: »
Why a tank at all? Lilith hits like a wet noodle until she buffs herself.
She melee hit my MNK for 900 at one point (no berserk or anything), TP moves for 1500, has reduced my HP to about 1500 with HP down once too. It is a really ***fight IMO.

I just want to know if doing VE on THF is likely better than E with no TH or not now.

Sounds like you got hit by Moonlight Veil. It gives a very potent magic DEF down, and she likes to follow up with impact afterwards. You can get rid of all the effects at once if you use a panacea.
 
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