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Random Politics & Religion #38: The 38th One
Caitsith.Shiroi said: » He comes from south africa so I don't think it applies here? If a white man born in south africa is told by a fellow south african to go back to their home country, then yes that would very likely be racism. Your argument was: Caitsith.Shiroi said: » You'd almost have a point if the previous tweet didn't clearly state he's talking about them coming from other COUNTRIES. You can try spinning it however you wan't, it's racism. So which is it? Telling someone to go back to their country is racist, or it isn't? Caitsith.Shiroi said: » If you have doubts, he did double down on it in a conference and did mention who is he talking about (I believe he specifically named at least Omar and Tlaib). After they raised their hands and claimed to be the targets. He isn't afraid to swing at anyone that steps up. Caitsith.Shiroi said: » It's in bold in the quotes you are quoting ... B) “Home” doesn’t matter exclusively mean homeland, why cant home mean the crime infested cities and states they resided in before they were elected? C) How can he mean people who were born in the country when he specifically refers to people who originally came from outside it? So if I tell a single white person to go back to South Africa because they don't like our music, it's not racist.
If I tell a single black person to go back to South Africa because they don't like our music, it's racist. Even though I made the statements in response to them not like our music and nothing about the color of their skin? At what point do you get to dismiss all of the variables to the argument and just claim blanket racism?
Now Trump is trying to run damage control on his rally last night, claiming he didn't like the chant he incited. This is great.
Caitsith.Shiroi said: » Eboneezer said: » Caitsith.Shiroi said: » He comes from south africa so I don't think it applies here? If a white man born in south africa is told by a fellow south african to go back to their home country, then yes that would very likely be racism. Your argument was: Caitsith.Shiroi said: » You'd almost have a point if the previous tweet didn't clearly state he's talking about them coming from other COUNTRIES. You can try spinning it however you wan't, it's racism. So which is it? Telling someone to go back to their country is racist, or it isn't? It is racism, there isn't anything contradictory in what I said. If you tell a minority to go back to their country it's certainly racism, even more if you are fully aware they are American. You are arguing yourself for a standard of racial discrimination. As in you can’t say X to black people but you can to white people. That itself is actual racism. Caitsith.Shiroi said: » Nausi said: » Caitsith.Shiroi said: » It's in bold in the quotes you are quoting ... B) “Home” doesn’t matter exclusively mean homeland, why cant home mean the crime infested cities and states they resided in before they were elected? C) How can he mean people who were born in the country when he specifically refers to people who originally came from outside it? Did you upgrade to 5D chess? you are making even less sense. There there. Trump now wants nothing to do with his own base that was with him last night, throwing them under the bus. He has taken it way too far and wants off the train. Too bad.
Omar wasn't born in America.
Viciouss said: » Trump now wants nothing to do with his own base that was with him last night, throwing them under the bus. He has taken it way too far and wants off the train. Too bad. Caitsith.Shiroi said: » Eboneezer said: » So if I tell a single white person to go back to South Africa because they don't like our music, it's not racist. If I tell a single black person to go back to South Africa because they don't like our music, it's racist. Even though I made the statements in response to them not like our music and nothing about the color of their skin? I see you are being obtuse on purpose. If you tell a black man (Born in America) to go back to south africa because he doesn't like our music, it's freaking racism. You’re the racist. They have nothing but “if you disagree with me you’re a racist”.
They’re doomed. Nausi said: » They have nothing but “if you disagree with me you’re a racist”. They’re doomed. Yea we are doing great over here, as you continue to spam and Trump runs away from his base. Notice how you couldn't post any sources at all? Yea, we did. Lol, i mean what more evidence do you need of the perpetual lefty state of delusion?
Start with some sources. How hard can it be?
Viciouss said: » Start with some sources. How hard can it be? You tell us. Viciouss said: » ... No one is assuming anything. Caitsith.Shiroi said: » Eboneezer said: » So if I tell a single white person to go back to South Africa because they don't like our music, it's not racist. If I tell a single black person to go back to South Africa because they don't like our music, it's racist. Even though I made the statements in response to them not like our music and nothing about the color of their skin? I see you are being obtuse on purpose. If you tell a black man (Born in America) to go back to south africa because he doesn't like our music, it's freaking racism. Thats ignorance not racist. All racism is ignorance not all ignorance is racism. Was on my phone, here's a continuation of my above post.
Racism is about treating someone differently based on their race, meaning a person has a prejudicial belief based on another persons race. Prejudice literally means pre-judgement, or to judge someone before knowing / meeting them. Racism requires both a pre-judgement and a different in treatment, again based on race. That is why President Trumps comments were not racist, they were not based on a pre-judgement nor were they treating people differently based on race. President Trump trolls white Democrats just as much as he trolls black, brown, blue, green and rainbow Democrats. We can agree that his statement, if taken at face value, was profoundly ignorant, yet not racist. Now he was obviously screwing with them with the aim of riling everyone up and fueling the radical priesthood of the left to go even more fanatical. Doing so during the Democrat primaries just to force his potential opponent to say or do things that he could later use against them. Exactly.
Were they racist? No Were they rude? Absolutely. What happens when you get offended when someone is rude to you? Nothing. I love this guy. Yea, here come the Send her Back campaign slogans, merch, chants. Looks like this is working out just perfect!
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