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By Viciouss 2019-10-15 10:57:25
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Just to get out in front of nausi's conspiracy theory, Hunter Biden was not funneling money to his father.

His conspiracy theories are quite amusing actually. I think he actually believes them.

Oh yea, they are constant entertainment, and none of them are ever true.
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By fonewear 2019-10-15 10:58:28
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Trump has some "Where's Biden ?" T Shirts

Get em while they are hot !
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By fonewear 2019-10-15 10:59:03
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2019-10-15 10:59:16
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Project Veritas is crap, they try to deceive people all the time.

It's good to see there are still intelligent people out there.
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-10-15 11:02:31
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fonewear said: »

Trump Straws

Conservative capitalists are having a field day with this merch. I have some in the car and bring them into any restaurant that tries to give me a paper straw. This is all in the DC Metro area, so much fun to troll leftists IRL.
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By Nausi 2019-10-15 11:05:11
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Whats the issue with having his kids as trusted advisors?

There are a lot of issues with nepotism.

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Even IF that were true, isn’t that 100x better than having those unqualified kids (or qualified ones) funneling you money from foreign interests?

Can you at least see the massive conflict of interest in the later?

I can see it, but it looks like you are willing to selectively ignore it for Trump kids.
There CAN be issues with nepotism, but Trump campaigned on bringing the fam along, so we all voted that in and its working pretty well.

Its working much much better than obstruction of justice Hillary who tried to cover up her espionage crimes by bleaching her private email server.
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By Nausi 2019-10-15 11:07:31
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Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
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Just to get out in front of nausi's conspiracy theory, Hunter Biden was not funneling money to his father.

His conspiracy theories are quite amusing actually. I think he actually believes them.

https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/617936.html"> https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/617936.html

He most certainly paid him 900k.

No amount of facts I don't like bleating is going to change the facts.
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2019-10-15 11:12:35
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Nausi said: »
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Just to get out in front of nausi's conspiracy theory, Hunter Biden was not funneling money to his father.

His conspiracy theories are quite amusing actually. I think he actually believes them.

https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/617936.html"> https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/617936.html

He most certainly paid him 900k.

No amount of facts I don't like bleating is going to change the facts.

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By Viciouss 2019-10-15 11:24:37
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Completely unverified allegation, not even close to being a "fact."
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By Nausi 2019-10-15 11:34:38
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-posts source

-divert to name calling instead of trying to refute the findings.

Yep we all knew you have no point. Now its confirmed.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-15 11:36:49
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Trump campaigned on bringing the fam along, so we all voted that in and its working pretty well.

This isn't remotely accurate either, Trump didn't campaign on breaking nepotism laws, nor did he campaign on ordering the DOJ to issue an opinion allowing it. More importantly, no one voted for it. And its not working at all, Kushner has brought nothing but scandals and failures and Ivanka is invisible because she isn't allowed to have an opinion that contradicts her father.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-15 11:40:31
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Nausi said: »
-posts source

-divert to name calling instead of trying to refute the findings.

Yep we all knew you have no point. Now its confirmed.

There were no findings. Its an allegation from an unnamed source in Ukraine. No evidence was presented, no documents, nothing. Its certainly not a "fact."
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By Nausi 2019-10-15 11:49:38
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https://twitter.com/ryangirdusky/status/1182374329646010375?s=21

Posted this the other day, but its clearly relevant.

NPR/Marist poll: how much do you trust the media? a great deal/not much

Overall: 29/69
Voters: 32/66
Dems: 60/38
GOP: 8/92
Indies: 26/71
Trump supporters: 4/95

Democrats are the ONLY ones who still believe the media. Everyone else has figured it out. If you cringe at the phrase “facts I don't like” its because you are in the small minority of people who still believe the facts I don't like for its appeal to your owm confirmation bias.

I remember the south park episode where they investigated 9/11 and the boys were shocked that 1/4 people believe in the conspiracy. To which kyle was like “yeah dude” 1/4 people are retards.

Libs have become the conspiracy theorists. The reat of us know better.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-15 11:53:54
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Wait, didn't nausi post 3 different links to Sean Hannity/John Solomon and Tucker Carlson just the other day? Three guys that run conspiracies everyday? Yeah, so much for that.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-15 11:58:16
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And lets not forget the fake twitter links about Rep. Omar, who was in Morocco for 5 days, yet nausi tried to post a link claiming she wasn't, twice. Needless to say, that projection didn't work at all.
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2019-10-15 11:58:44
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Wait, didn't nausi post 3 different links to Sean Hannity/John Solomon and Tucker Carlson just the other day? Three guys that run conspiracies everyday? Yeah, so much for that.

Oh the irony.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-10-15 12:17:22
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Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
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LOL, deflection at its max.

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Laughing at your own posts. Is sorta like laughing at your own jokes.

It's not funny it's kinda sad.

Note that my use of "lol" and "deflection" are primarily used in a mocking sense against Vic specifically, who says such things quite often. You don't seem to be very keen on the nuance of how things work here, so it's in your best interest to not nitpick because it just singles you out as the only person not getting the joke.

It actually singles out hypocrisy, which has clearly struck a nerve with you. :D

Why is everything you post so cringe-inducing? Are you sure you're not CJ?
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2019-10-15 12:45:36
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
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LOL, deflection at its max.

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Laughing at your own posts. Is sorta like laughing at your own jokes.

It's not funny it's kinda sad.

Note that my use of "lol" and "deflection" are primarily used in a mocking sense against Vic specifically, who says such things quite often. You don't seem to be very keen on the nuance of how things work here, so it's in your best interest to not nitpick because it just singles you out as the only person not getting the joke.

It actually singles out hypocrisy, which has clearly struck a nerve with you. :D

Why is everything you post so cringe-inducing? Are you sure you're not CJ?

I only aim to please. Still don't know who this CJ person is, but I like them already.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-10-15 13:09:55
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Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
I only aim to please. Still don't know who this CJ person is, but I like them already.

Great! Then you should use him as your idol instead of Vic. Now just follow in his footsteps by being super weird and aggressive, making death threats, and getting megabanned off the site including having all your posts deleted.
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By Nausi 2019-10-15 13:11:46
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
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LOL, deflection at its max.

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Laughing at your own posts. Is sorta like laughing at your own jokes.

It's not funny it's kinda sad.

Note that my use of "lol" and "deflection" are primarily used in a mocking sense against Vic specifically, who says such things quite often. You don't seem to be very keen on the nuance of how things work here, so it's in your best interest to not nitpick because it just singles you out as the only person not getting the joke.

It actually singles out hypocrisy, which has clearly struck a nerve with you. :D

Why is everything you post so cringe-inducing? Are you sure you're not CJ?
Righties aren’t hypocrites, they draw distinctive and logical differences in their ideology.

Lefties don’t use logic, they just use feelings. They have no issue being hypocrites if it nets good feels. Only a nazi would disagree with them after all.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-15 13:13:43
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lol, ignoring nausis fantasies, did CJ really make death threats against site members?
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By Nausi 2019-10-15 13:14:59
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Wait, didn't nausi post 3 different links to Sean Hannity/John Solomon and Tucker Carlson just the other day? Three guys that run conspiracies everyday? Yeah, so much for that.

To Nausi's defense, they aren't journalists but political commentators. Therefore they are more trustworthy than journalists.
There are no journalists anymore. The people pretending to be are partisan hacks attempting to fool you. Which is why the only people who still trust them are democrats (because they tell them what they want to hear).

Again i am teminded of the logical fallacy.

Nobody’s perfect: True
Therefore we’re all equally bad: False

Journalists are partisan: true
Therefore the right is as bad as the left: false
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2019-10-15 13:25:21
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Again i am teminded of the logical fallacy.

Nobody’s perfect: True
Therefore we’re all equally bad: False

Journalists are partisan: true
Therefore the right is as bad as the left: false

I am intrigued by your philosophical prowess.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-10-15 13:31:25
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lol, ignoring nausis fantasies, did CJ really make death threats against site members?

Not specifically. He did advocate for violence against those he disagreed with politically, though.
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By Viciouss 2019-10-15 13:34:27
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Ah yeah, I remember that. I wonder what actually got him banned tho.
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By Nausi 2019-10-15 13:50:58
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Again i am teminded of the logical fallacy.

Nobody’s perfect: True
Therefore we’re all equally bad: False

Journalists are partisan: true
Therefore the right is as bad as the left: false

I am intrigued by your philosophical prowess.
Behold i give you, the liberal media bubble.

Everyone in the country knows this BUT lefties, because they want the confirmation bias.
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By Nausi 2019-10-15 14:12:23
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If 95% of journalists are left wing pundits in disguise pushing left wing biases, then alternative and independent news has a systemic advantage in its accuracy, because they are reacting to propaganda and not constructing reality.

Lefties are simply getting swept up in their own echo chamber. Righties must sift through that echo chamber as part of their existence. That already puts them on an entirely higher tier of analysis.
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-10-15 14:21:56
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Nausi said: »
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Again i am teminded of the logical fallacy.

Nobody’s perfect: True
Therefore we’re all equally bad: False

Journalists are partisan: true
Therefore the right is as bad as the left: false

I am intrigued by your philosophical prowess.
Behold i give you, the liberal media bubble.

Everyone in the country knows this BUT lefties, because they want the confirmation bias.

Yep the north east and west coast echo chambers. I happen to live in one and can attest to how prolific it is. Interesting note is that there are many conservatives in this area, they just don't openly advertise themselves as such but do have private side discussions.
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By Nausi 2019-10-15 14:36:21
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There is no right wing existence that excludes the leftist narrative.

Lefties are literally drowning in their own propaganda.

And that explains why only lefties still have any faith left in the media.
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