No vote, no subpoenas, no testimony
Dems can hold their secret circle jerk, no one cares
Random Politics & Religion #38: The 38th One
Random Politics & Religion #38: The 38th One
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Viciouss said: »
Don't expect a vote on the impeachment inquiry tho, as testimonies are proceeding and subpoenas are being issued without it.
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Article 2, Clause 5: Speaker and other officers; Impeachment
The House of Representatives shall choose their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.
Section Two further provides that the House of Representatives may choose its Speaker and its other officers. Though the Constitution does not mandate it, every Speaker has been a member of the House of Representatives.[33] The Speaker rarely presides over routine House sessions, choosing instead to deputize a junior member to accomplish the task.
Finally, Section Two grants to the House of Representatives the sole power of impeachment. Although the Supreme Court has not had an occasion to interpret this specific provision, the Court has suggested that the grant to the House of the "sole" power of impeachment makes the House the exclusive interpreter of what constitutes an impeachable offense.[34]
This power, which is analogous to the bringing of criminal charges by a grand jury, has been used only rarely.[35] The House has begun impeachment proceedings 62 times since 1789, and nineteen federal officials have been formally impeached as a result, including: two Presidents (Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton), one Cabinet Secretary (William W. Belknap), one Senator (William Blount), one Supreme Court Associate Justice (Samuel Chase), and fourteen federal judges. Also, notably, impeachment proceedings compelled the resignation of President Richard Nixon.
The Constitution does not specify how impeachment proceedings are to be initiated. Until the early 20th century, a House member could rise and propose an impeachment, which would then be assigned to a committee for investigation. Presently, it is the House Judiciary Committee that initiates the process and then, after investigating the allegations, prepares recommendations for the whole House's consideration. If the House votes to adopt an impeachment resolution, the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee recommends a slate of "managers," whom the House subsequently approves by resolution. These Representatives subsequently become the prosecution team in the impeachment trial in the Senate
The House of Representatives shall choose their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.
Section Two further provides that the House of Representatives may choose its Speaker and its other officers. Though the Constitution does not mandate it, every Speaker has been a member of the House of Representatives.[33] The Speaker rarely presides over routine House sessions, choosing instead to deputize a junior member to accomplish the task.
Finally, Section Two grants to the House of Representatives the sole power of impeachment. Although the Supreme Court has not had an occasion to interpret this specific provision, the Court has suggested that the grant to the House of the "sole" power of impeachment makes the House the exclusive interpreter of what constitutes an impeachable offense.[34]
This power, which is analogous to the bringing of criminal charges by a grand jury, has been used only rarely.[35] The House has begun impeachment proceedings 62 times since 1789, and nineteen federal officials have been formally impeached as a result, including: two Presidents (Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton), one Cabinet Secretary (William W. Belknap), one Senator (William Blount), one Supreme Court Associate Justice (Samuel Chase), and fourteen federal judges. Also, notably, impeachment proceedings compelled the resignation of President Richard Nixon.
The Constitution does not specify how impeachment proceedings are to be initiated. Until the early 20th century, a House member could rise and propose an impeachment, which would then be assigned to a committee for investigation. Presently, it is the House Judiciary Committee that initiates the process and then, after investigating the allegations, prepares recommendations for the whole House's consideration. If the House votes to adopt an impeachment resolution, the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee recommends a slate of "managers," whom the House subsequently approves by resolution. These Representatives subsequently become the prosecution team in the impeachment trial in the Senate
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Viciouss said: »
Don't expect a vote on the impeachment inquiry tho, as testimonies are proceeding and subpoenas are being issued without it.
Quote:
Article 2, Clause 5: Speaker and other officers; Impeachment
The House of Representatives shall choose their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.
Section Two further provides that the House of Representatives may choose its Speaker and its other officers. Though the Constitution does not mandate it, every Speaker has been a member of the House of Representatives.[33] The Speaker rarely presides over routine House sessions, choosing instead to deputize a junior member to accomplish the task.
Finally, Section Two grants to the House of Representatives the sole power of impeachment. Although the Supreme Court has not had an occasion to interpret this specific provision, the Court has suggested that the grant to the House of the "sole" power of impeachment makes the House the exclusive interpreter of what constitutes an impeachable offense.[34]
This power, which is analogous to the bringing of criminal charges by a grand jury, has been used only rarely.[35] The House has begun impeachment proceedings 62 times since 1789, and nineteen federal officials have been formally impeached as a result, including: two Presidents (Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton), one Cabinet Secretary (William W. Belknap), one Senator (William Blount), one Supreme Court Associate Justice (Samuel Chase), and fourteen federal judges. Also, notably, impeachment proceedings compelled the resignation of President Richard Nixon.
The Constitution does not specify how impeachment proceedings are to be initiated. Until the early 20th century, a House member could rise and propose an impeachment, which would then be assigned to a committee for investigation. Presently, it is the House Judiciary Committee that initiates the process and then, after investigating the allegations, prepares recommendations for the whole House's consideration. If the House votes to adopt an impeachment resolution, the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee recommends a slate of "managers," whom the House subsequently approves by resolution. These Representatives subsequently become the prosecution team in the impeachment trial in the Senate
The House of Representatives shall choose their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.
Section Two further provides that the House of Representatives may choose its Speaker and its other officers. Though the Constitution does not mandate it, every Speaker has been a member of the House of Representatives.[33] The Speaker rarely presides over routine House sessions, choosing instead to deputize a junior member to accomplish the task.
Finally, Section Two grants to the House of Representatives the sole power of impeachment. Although the Supreme Court has not had an occasion to interpret this specific provision, the Court has suggested that the grant to the House of the "sole" power of impeachment makes the House the exclusive interpreter of what constitutes an impeachable offense.[34]
This power, which is analogous to the bringing of criminal charges by a grand jury, has been used only rarely.[35] The House has begun impeachment proceedings 62 times since 1789, and nineteen federal officials have been formally impeached as a result, including: two Presidents (Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton), one Cabinet Secretary (William W. Belknap), one Senator (William Blount), one Supreme Court Associate Justice (Samuel Chase), and fourteen federal judges. Also, notably, impeachment proceedings compelled the resignation of President Richard Nixon.
The Constitution does not specify how impeachment proceedings are to be initiated. Until the early 20th century, a House member could rise and propose an impeachment, which would then be assigned to a committee for investigation. Presently, it is the House Judiciary Committee that initiates the process and then, after investigating the allegations, prepares recommendations for the whole House's consideration. If the House votes to adopt an impeachment resolution, the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee recommends a slate of "managers," whom the House subsequently approves by resolution. These Representatives subsequently become the prosecution team in the impeachment trial in the Senate
You can post all the things you want. But like me no one reads them.
Do those rules suggest that the Democrats to behind the door meetings that no one knows what the *** is going on.
Did the rules suggest that you impeach a President because you don't like him.
Did the rules suggest that we waste our time on a third rate hack website with about four people on it.
Did the rules suggest that you impeach a President because you don't like him.
Did the rules suggest that we waste our time on a third rate hack website with about four people on it.
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Did the rules suggest that the only thing that Congress cares about is self preservation. And not actually working for the "people"
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Nausi said: »
No vote, no subpoenas, no testimony
Dems can hold their secret circle jerk, no one cares
Dems can hold their secret circle jerk, no one cares
Don't worry David Hogg was there taking notes. !
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Someday FFXIAH PnR might break new ground and get more than four people...not probably not.
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We are the four horsemen of the Apocalypse bringing doom and gloom to Trump !
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Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
That's all the proof I need.
Some guy that writes for the NY post. He probably was at the "closed door" meetings taking notes.
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No one really cares about
when you can get
Sanford and Son on Clearance
That big dummy was much more entertaining.
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Biden and son cleared.
Sanford and Son on Clearance
That big dummy was much more entertaining.
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The good news is your average voter doesn't give a ***about closed door meetings or phone calls etc.
They only care about things that effect them directly.
They only care about things that effect them directly.
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So all this he said she said *** is just that. ***.
And no one is going to go into a voting booth trying to remember some ***that happened almost a year ago.
They will tune into the debates right before the election then make up their mind....probably.
And no one is going to go into a voting booth trying to remember some ***that happened almost a year ago.
They will tune into the debates right before the election then make up their mind....probably.
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
These rules?
Generally when trying to make an argument, it's best to be concise. Posting a wall of text from Wikipedia doesn't make a point. It's basically just saying, "I don't know what any of this means, but I bet it proves you wrong somehow!"
You could save time by just saying, "You're wrong because the internet." Sure it's a crap argument, but at least people might read it. Maybe even Fone!
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
These rules?
Wrong set, that's the US Constitution not the House rules.
See each chamber of congress has a separate rules committee that writes the rules of order, which is a list of how that chamber conducts itself. These rules include how sessions are opened, how talking time is divided up, how bills are presented and handled, how other committee's are divided up and who gets to decide the membership of those committees. All those administrative details are wrapped in large sets of rules that are created by the rules committee. One of the "rules" was about requiring a 2/3rds vote to bring to cease discussion on a topic, meaning once 66% of a chamber decided they were done discussion the topic could then be brought for a formal vote. Meaning 34% member could, in theory, hold a topic up indefinitely for "discussion", this tactic used to known as a filibuster.
Notice how that's not really a thing anymore? That's because the House and Senate rules committee voted to remove that rule, otherwise known as the "Nuclear Option". Don't see that written in the US Constitution do ya. One of the many rules of the house is that Impeachment proceedings happen after formal discussion and simple majority vote. The results would be a formal impeachment committee being formed from members of both parties. Think of it as a temporary committee charged with the job of investigating the alleged acts and drawing up articles of impeachment, and then later acting as the prosecution for those articles in front of the Senate. This is all done for transparency and to maintain an official record. Republicans followed these rules back when they stupidly went after President Bill Clinton.
In this situation the Democrats are just ignoring all the house rules and doing secret closed door investigations where Republicans are being kept out of. This is straight up Nazi / Stalinist / Chinese tactics used by authoritarians to prevent anyone challenging them.
Now the Democrats *could* have the rules committee vote to change the rules, it's a simple majority vote and they have that on the committee. They won't because it would create a record of them abusing their power, a record they couldn't narrate out of history via control over WaPo, CNN and MSNBC.
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So much for being concise eh?
Also, this is a complete lie. For example, Fiona Hill is testifying right now, yes its behind closed doors, but all the committee Republicans are there and being allowed to ask questions like any other closed door hearing. Fake tough guy Matt Gaetz tried to attend despite not being on any of the 3 committees, naturally he was tossed out.
Asura.Saevel said: »
In this situation the Democrats are just ignoring all the house rules and doing secret closed door investigations where Republicans are being kept out of. This is straight up Nazi / Stalinist / Chinese tactics used by authoritarians to prevent anyone challenging them.
Also, this is a complete lie. For example, Fiona Hill is testifying right now, yes its behind closed doors, but all the committee Republicans are there and being allowed to ask questions like any other closed door hearing. Fake tough guy Matt Gaetz tried to attend despite not being on any of the 3 committees, naturally he was tossed out.
Nausi said: »
No vote, no subpoenas, no testimony
Oops, did I mention there was testimony going on right now? So much for this fake talking point.
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Viciouss said: »
Don't expect a vote on the impeachment inquiry tho, as testimonies are proceeding and subpoenas are being issued without it.
Quote:
Article 2, Clause 5: Speaker and other officers; Impeachment
The House of Representatives shall choose their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.
Section Two further provides that the House of Representatives may choose its Speaker and its other officers. Though the Constitution does not mandate it, every Speaker has been a member of the House of Representatives.[33] The Speaker rarely presides over routine House sessions, choosing instead to deputize a junior member to accomplish the task.
Finally, Section Two grants to the House of Representatives the sole power of impeachment. Although the Supreme Court has not had an occasion to interpret this specific provision, the Court has suggested that the grant to the House of the "sole" power of impeachment makes the House the exclusive interpreter of what constitutes an impeachable offense.[34]
This power, which is analogous to the bringing of criminal charges by a grand jury, has been used only rarely.[35] The House has begun impeachment proceedings 62 times since 1789, and nineteen federal officials have been formally impeached as a result, including: two Presidents (Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton), one Cabinet Secretary (William W. Belknap), one Senator (William Blount), one Supreme Court Associate Justice (Samuel Chase), and fourteen federal judges. Also, notably, impeachment proceedings compelled the resignation of President Richard Nixon.
The Constitution does not specify how impeachment proceedings are to be initiated. Until the early 20th century, a House member could rise and propose an impeachment, which would then be assigned to a committee for investigation. Presently, it is the House Judiciary Committee that initiates the process and then, after investigating the allegations, prepares recommendations for the whole House's consideration. If the House votes to adopt an impeachment resolution, the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee recommends a slate of "managers," whom the House subsequently approves by resolution. These Representatives subsequently become the prosecution team in the impeachment trial in the Senate
The House of Representatives shall choose their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.
Section Two further provides that the House of Representatives may choose its Speaker and its other officers. Though the Constitution does not mandate it, every Speaker has been a member of the House of Representatives.[33] The Speaker rarely presides over routine House sessions, choosing instead to deputize a junior member to accomplish the task.
Finally, Section Two grants to the House of Representatives the sole power of impeachment. Although the Supreme Court has not had an occasion to interpret this specific provision, the Court has suggested that the grant to the House of the "sole" power of impeachment makes the House the exclusive interpreter of what constitutes an impeachable offense.[34]
This power, which is analogous to the bringing of criminal charges by a grand jury, has been used only rarely.[35] The House has begun impeachment proceedings 62 times since 1789, and nineteen federal officials have been formally impeached as a result, including: two Presidents (Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton), one Cabinet Secretary (William W. Belknap), one Senator (William Blount), one Supreme Court Associate Justice (Samuel Chase), and fourteen federal judges. Also, notably, impeachment proceedings compelled the resignation of President Richard Nixon.
The Constitution does not specify how impeachment proceedings are to be initiated. Until the early 20th century, a House member could rise and propose an impeachment, which would then be assigned to a committee for investigation. Presently, it is the House Judiciary Committee that initiates the process and then, after investigating the allegations, prepares recommendations for the whole House's consideration. If the House votes to adopt an impeachment resolution, the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee recommends a slate of "managers," whom the House subsequently approves by resolution. These Representatives subsequently become the prosecution team in the impeachment trial in the Senate
Its all a hoax.
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Nausi said: »
Any impeachment effort that does not allow the congress to cross examine the findings is not one that the people will take seriously.
Good thing the GOP is being allowed to cross examine every witness so far. Whoops.
facts I don't like of course.
ABC bringing new grievance this week. Trump has lead to a genocide in syria.
Then puts up footage of a gun range in Kentucky.
facts I don't like strikes again
Then puts up footage of a gun range in Kentucky.
facts I don't like strikes again
In actual Syria news, facing a genocide brought on by being abandoned by the USA, the Kurds cut a deal with Assad today, whose forces are moving north to combat the Turks. Meanwhile, hundreds, soon to be thousands, of ISIS prisoners have escaped. Welcome back ISIS.
Schiff’s impeachment scam is imploding. Cant take it public, cant have the WB testify, lets just make it a circle jerk.
Lefties deserve better crime lords.
Lefties deserve better crime lords.
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Testimony seems to be proceeding smoothly today.
JUST IN: Tlaib says Democrats have discussed detaining White House officials who don't testify
Reminder, they can’t do this in any legal manner which is why its often pointed to as a COUP.
Reminder, they can’t do this in any legal manner which is why its often pointed to as a COUP.
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Nausi said: »
Reminder, they can’t do this in any legal manner which is why its often pointed to as a COUP.
Reminder, this isn't true at all. Shocking right?;Congress does have the authority to jail people through inherent contempt. I don't think it's ever been used, but the authority is there.
Also it looks like the Democrats are refusing to admit any Republican member of congress to their secret interrogations and booting any that do make their way inside. We've gone full 1984 guys, it's not even a parody anymore.
Also CNN CEO and other high level executives have been filmed discussing their anti-trump bias and how the network will only put out anti-conservative news.
So yeah the propaganda arm of the Democrat National Committee.
Also CNN CEO and other high level executives have been filmed discussing their anti-trump bias and how the network will only put out anti-conservative news.
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So yeah the propaganda arm of the Democrat National Committee.
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